Posted on 02/13/2006 4:28:30 PM PST by wagglebee
SAN FRANCISCO, February 13, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Questions have swirled about Pope Benedict XVI's appointment of former Utah Bishop George Niederauer to be Archbishop of San Francisco, a post Archbishop Niederauer took up this week. With its reputation for being a hotbed of the "gay subculture" many were looking at how the new archbishop would address the matter.
From recent indications, some Catholics are now especially concerned about the archbishop.
The San Francisco Chronicle has posted an interview with the incoming archbishop, conducted by the paper's 'gay and lesbian issues' newsman Wyatt Buchanan. During the interview, Archbishop Niederauer makes a disturbing statement which could easily infer that while pedophilia is abnormal, homosexuality is certainly not.
In the interview Wyatt questions Niederauer about a statement noting that homosexuality cannot be seen as the cause of the sexual abuse scandal. Niederarer responds, "People who see the sex abuse scandal as having as 'the' cause the sexual orientation of the priests, I felt they are mistaken. Because when we're talking about pedophilia we're talking about a sickness, an illness, an aberration."
In response, Catholic World News' famed blogger Diogenes points out that the Catholic Church considers homosexuality itself as abnormal (http://www.cwnews.com/offtherecord/offtherecord.cfm?task=sin... ). According to the Catechism, the Church teaches, "Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity, tradition has always declared that 'homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered.' They are contrary to the natural law." It adds that even the inclination itself is "objectively disordered." (see the reference http://www.vatican.va/archive/catechism/p3s2c2a6.htm )
The interview also reveals a strange interpretation of what the Vatican meant when it barred from ordination to the priesthood men with "deep seated homosexual tendencies".
While most have interpreted the Vatican statement literally to mean that those who have lasting and non-fleeting homosexual tendencies cannot enter seminary, the archbishop interprets it very differently. According to the new archbishop's understanding "someone who is going to be a priest has to be able and willing, and this has to be tested by time of course, has to be able and willing to subordinate all relationships and conduct all relationships with others in a way that's compatible with a celibate lifestyle . . . And I think that would be true also for the heterosexual candidate." The interviewer then asks the obvious question, "Then why single out homosexuals?" That's because, says the archbishop, the issue is much more front and center "since Stonewall."
Beyond that, Niederauer had this to say when asked what he thought of the film Brokeback Mountain. While the film has been condemned by pro-family groups as a dangerous homosexual propaganda film, Niederauer admitted to seeing the film and remarked on it saying it was "very powerful". He added that "one of the lessons (of the film) is the destructiveness of not being honest with yourself and not honest with other people and not being faithful, trying to live a double life."
The interview is available for download here:
http://www.streamload.com/Deliver/Deliver.asp?cxInstID=45740...
See LifeSiteNews.com coverage of Brokeback Mountain
USCCB Changes Rating on Brokeback Mountain to Morally Offensive
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2005/dec/05121607.html
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New San Francisco Archbishop Thinks Gay Propaganda Film "Brokeback Mountain" is "Very Powerful"
The Vatican needs to put a stop to this immediately!
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Really a shame that this guy is Archbishop. Many of the folks in the pews of his archdiocese are socially conservative Filipinos, Vietnamese, or other Asian groups (to say nothing of the Latins) that are diametrically opposed to the Yuppie mindset shared by the Archbishop.
What I find most surprising is that Niederauer was formerly in Utah, which is extremely conservative. It would seem that he was just "going through the motions" while he served there.
OK, this is disgusting. How did he get in such an exalted position?
Scott Peterson comes to mind as someone who wasn't honest. I hope there aren't any wife-killings at the end of the "love story."
You?
It seems to me that most faggots just want to get a "nut"...and most faggots are lazy...so why not "couple" with easy prey. Lezzie are the same....touchy-feely.... Same story differnet sex. Gee...what a story!!!
I'm getting worried about this guy. A bishop should be willing to stand up for the Catechism's teaching on homosexuality.
Beyond that, Niederauer had this to say when asked what he thought of the film Brokeback Mountain. While the film has been condemned by pro-family groups as a dangerous homosexual propaganda film, Niederauer admitted to seeing the film and remarked on it saying it was "very powerful". He added that "one of the lessons (of the film) is the destructiveness of not being honest with yourself and not honest with other people and not being faithful, trying to live a double life."
Perhaps that's what the Archbishop meant? That the 'very powerful' part of the movie he spoke of was how it shows what homosexuality can do to a family and how painful it is?
I'm just giving this man the benefit of the doubt here. It can be very easy to misinterpret words. I doubt he would've added the text in bold if he thought of Brokeback Mountain in the same way as the rest of Hollywood does.
Go back and read it again.
Very, very disturbing. Obviously this bishop is in the wrong career. Every comment that is quoted in the article is wrong, wrong, wrong.
***Niederarer responds, "People who see the sex abuse scandal as having as 'the' cause the sexual orientation of the priests, I felt they are mistaken. Because when we're talking about pedophilia we're talking about a sickness, an illness, an aberration."
A. The vast majority of kids molested were not pre-pubescent children, therefore it was NOT pedophilia. It was (sp?) ebephilia, homosexual attraction to adolescent youths, which is common among homosexuals throughout history.
B. So pedophilia is an aberration and homosexuality isn't?
And he mentions "Stonewall" so casually. I hope Catholics communicate strongly with the Pope to rectify this.
San Francisco needs an apostate Archbishop???????
Ah. Never mind.
JPII put all these lousy people into place intially, he never ever confronted homosexuality, and he had essentially written off the Church in the US.
In a few brief months, BXVI has already done a better job. But I think the appointment of Levada (a mistake but not a fatal one, since the new definition of Levada's position makes him just a pencil pusher) and the new SF bishop (a serious mistake, recommended by Levada) are going to present major credibility problems for him.
We have a bishop here who speaks the truth and our churches are now packed. We had one in the past who was not a raving heretic and, I will say in his favor, was obviously on the ball enough so that we had no gay or other scandals in my diocese; but he kept a very low profile and only intervened if the complaints rose to his eyebrows.
Our bishop for the last few years is a short-timer who was already close to 70 when he was appointed, but he has done a fantastic job in about four years and people turn out in droves for him.
Don't give up. People came out in mobs to see Jesus because he spoke with authority (that is, he spoke the truth), and they come out now to see a bishop who speaks the truth. The problem is that so few bishops do.
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