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To: GrandEagle; conserv371
Hello GrandEagle

I said today I was taking a break and just read, but then I decided to type this up for you

After the Apostle Paul tells us in 1 Thessalonians chapter 4 about the catching up of the Saints, both living and dead, he immediately tells us in 1 Thessalonians chapter 5, verses 1-2, that this catching up of the Saints is what Jesus taught about, that He would come as a thief in the night.

"But the times and seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you. For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night"

Verse 4, "But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief."

Paul then refers to the Great Tribulation

Verse 8 "But let us who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for a helmet, the hope of salvation."

Verse 9 "For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ."

The Apostle Paul clearly teaches us in this chapter, that those who are left behind are appointed unto God's wrath, but not those who are of the day. This agrees with Jesus' teachings in Matthew chapters 24 and 25

God Bless

29 posted on 02/24/2006 8:06:13 PM PST by Clay+Iron_Times (The feet of the statue and the latter days of the church age)
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To: Clay+Iron_Times
"But the times and seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you. For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night"

Verse 4, "But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief."

These passages imply we won't be surprised by that day. They don't say we won't experience that day.

Paul then refers to the Great Tribulation
Verse 8 "But let us who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for a helmet, the hope of salvation."
Verse 9 "For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ."

The wrath doesn't begin until the 1st Bowl of wrath.

The Apostle Paul clearly teaches us in this chapter, that those who are left behind are appointed unto God's wrath, but not those who are of the day. This agrees with Jesus' teachings in Matthew chapters 24 and 25.

Agreed, but that wrath (God's wrath) begins at the 1st bowl, not before.

30 posted on 02/24/2006 8:18:03 PM PST by aimhigh
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To: Clay+Iron_Times
Thank you. Amen.

"Because you have kept the word of My perseverance,
I also will keep you from the hour of testing,
that hour which is about to come upon the whole world,
to test those who dwell on the earth."
The Word of The Master, Jesus, Revelation 3:10

35 posted on 02/25/2006 1:42:50 AM PST by .30Carbine (amen)
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To: Clay+Iron_Times
Hello Clay+Iron_Times

Again, I would repeat, any and all specific time references given in Gods word are after the tribulation. We (an I include myself because I once taught this) shuffle things around and assume things have to be this way and that way, but in the end, we have no authority it insert the way we think things ought to be into Gods word.
Use Gods word to interpret Gods word; not someones commentary.

Cordially,
GE
42 posted on 02/25/2006 7:39:24 AM PST by GrandEagle
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