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Malachy's Peter the Roman: Msgr. Pietro Parolin?

Posted on 03/27/2006 10:14:36 AM PST by bkj

Is Monsignor Pietro Parolin, an official with the Vatican's Roman Curia, destined to be Saint Malachy's prophesied "Petrus Romanus"?

The following might present what is to be the future fulfillment of St. Malachy's prophecy concerning "Peter the Roman."

It is lifted from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophecy_of_the_Popes ...

"Because no number is assigned to Petrus Romanus (Malachy's 112th "pope"), it is possible that (Peter the Roman) may take on the role of the Pope without putting on the robe of the Pope. Under this possible scenario, a catastrophe at the Vatican (perhaps a terrorist attack) could wipe out the top leadership of the Church during either a consistory or a conclave of the College of Cardinals. As a result, with no viable College surviving to elect a new pontiff, this particular scenario would have a surviving official of the Roman Curia succeeding to the top leadership of the Church but not as Pope. Since he would not rise to the Papacy itself but instead would become, in effect, the top caretaker of the Church, he would not need to assume a new papal name such as Peter; thus he would keep the name he has had since his birth in Italy, and that name already would be Peter (or, in Italian, Pietro). Currently (that is, as of March 2006) there is only one such candidate for Petrus Romanus (or Peter the Roman) within the Roman Curia. His name is Pietro Parolin, the Vatican Under-Secretary of State for Relations with States, appointed by Pope John Paul II in 2002 to serve under Archbishop Giovanni Lajolo. A native of Schiavon, Italy, Monsignor Parolin was born in January 1955."

The speculation above seems at least worthy of consideration given:

--Pope Benedict XVI's recent consistory at the Vatican (on 3-24-06). --The expectation that the new pontiff also will hold more consistories in the future. --The expectation that Benedict is about to streamline the Roman Curia (including forcing Angelo Sodano, the Vatican's Secretary of State and Dean of the College of Cardinals, to retire sometime in April). --The new pontiff's desire to reach out to the Muslim world. --The recent bombing by Muslim extremists of a 1,200-year-old mosque's dome in Iraq. --The fact that in 2,000 years no newly-elected Pope has ever had the nerve to take the name of Peter (making it unlikely that there will ever be a Pope Peter II but more likely that Peter the Roman will be a non-Pope who acts as caretaker of the Church).


TOPICS: Catholic; Religion & Culture; Theology
KEYWORDS: apocalypse; malachy; parolin; peter; petrus; pietro; pope; prophecy; roman; romanus
Is Monsignor Pietro Parolin, an official with the Vatican's Roman Curia, destined to be Saint Malachy's prophesied "Petrus Romanus"?

The following might present what is to be the future fulfillment of St. Malachy's prophecy concerning "Peter the Roman."

It is lifted from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophecy_of_the_Popes ...

"Because no number is assigned to Petrus Romanus (Malachy's 112th "pope"), it is possible that (Peter the Roman) may take on the role of the Pope without putting on the robe of the Pope. Under this possible scenario, a catastrophe at the Vatican (perhaps a terrorist attack) could wipe out the top leadership of the Church during either a consistory or a conclave of the College of Cardinals. As a result, with no viable College surviving to elect a new pontiff, this particular scenario would have a surviving official of the Roman Curia succeeding to the top leadership of the Church but not as Pope. Since he would not rise to the Papacy itself but instead would become, in effect, the top caretaker of the Church, he would not need to assume a new papal name such as Peter; thus he would keep the name he has had since his birth in Italy, and that name already would be Peter (or, in Italian, Pietro). Currently (that is, as of March 2006) there is only one such candidate for Petrus Romanus (or Peter the Roman) within the Roman Curia. His name is Pietro Parolin, the Vatican Under-Secretary of State for Relations with States, appointed by Pope John Paul II in 2002 to serve under Archbishop Giovanni Lajolo. A native of Schiavon, Italy, Monsignor Parolin was born in January 1955."

The speculation above seems at least worthy of consideration given:

--Pope Benedict XVI's recent consistory at the Vatican (on 3-24-06). --The expectation that the new pontiff also will hold more consistories in the future. --The expectation that Benedict is about to streamline the Roman Curia (including forcing Angelo Sodano, the Vatican's Secretary of State and Dean of the College of Cardinals, to retire sometime in April). --The new pontiff's desire to reach out to the Muslim world. --The recent bombing by Muslim extremists of a 1,200-year-old mosque's dome in Iraq. --The fact that in 2,000 years no newly-elected Pope has ever had the nerve to take the name of Peter (making it unlikely that there will ever be a Pope Peter II but more likely that Peter the Roman will be a non-Pope who acts as caretaker of the Church).

1 posted on 03/27/2006 10:14:40 AM PST by bkj
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To: bkj

Given that most prophecies revealed in hindsight often surprise us with how vaguely they resembled the actual prophecy - nothing should surprise us. So, your scenario could be right on or way off; only time will tell. Bottom line, we need to be ready right now in our soul, for anything to happen.


2 posted on 03/27/2006 10:31:47 AM PST by Integrityrocks
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To: bkj
I'm still waiting for someone to figure out how to connect the Bavarian Benedict XVI with "The Glory of the Olive". Anyone? Anyone? Buehler?

[crickets chirping]

Now if the prophecy were "Glory of the Beer Stein" or "Glory of the Oak Leaf" (the oak leaf and acorn are a traditional German symbol, if maybe a bit on the pagan side), I'd be okay with it. But olives? In Southern Bavaria? Huh?

The "Malachi" prophecies weren't written by St. Malachi, and are a bunch of hokum. JMO, YMMD.

3 posted on 03/27/2006 10:35:38 AM PST by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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To: bkj; All

This is an odd first post for someone who just joined today.


4 posted on 03/27/2006 10:55:43 AM PST by Theoden (Fidei Defensor - Deus vult!)
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To: Campion

Dear Campion,

Well... You know that St. Benedict founded the Benedictines... And some Benedictines are called "Olivetans"... and...

When I was a clinical psych grad student, I'd get saner connections from the schizophrenics at St. Elizabeth's.


sitetest


5 posted on 03/27/2006 11:20:20 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Campion
As sitetest pointed out, the Order of the Benedictines are also known as 'the Order of the Olives'

It is rumored that Pope Benedict purposely chose his name in reference to the prophecy.

6 posted on 03/27/2006 11:26:55 AM PST by infidel29 ("We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid." --Benjamin Franklin)
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To: bkj
I would assume that the 'terrorist attack' on the Vatican would be carried out by Islamic terrorists. If this were the case I would hope for a retaliation against Islam that would make the crusades look like the 8th grade picnic.

Call me fanatical, but converting Mecca and Medina into matching parking lots comes to mind.

7 posted on 03/27/2006 11:30:47 AM PST by infidel29 ("We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid." --Benjamin Franklin)
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To: infidel29

Dear infidel129,

My understanding is that the Olivetans only comprise a small part of the Benedictine world.

Thus, going from the name Pope Benedict to St. Benedict to the Olivetans, and then strangely, to "Glory of the Olive" seems a reach to me.

It would have been less of a stretch for me if Cardinal Martini had been elected pope.


sitetest


8 posted on 03/27/2006 11:36:20 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: bkj

The Prophecies of St. Malachy are a large dose of Irish baloney.

Also, in the case of the College of Cardinals going poof, the election of a new Pope would devolve to the remaining Roman Clergy, who hold the power of election by natural right (the Cardinals upon being named Cardinals automatically become the voting portion of the Roman Clergy and take possession of a titualr Church of which they are pastor). No caretakers needed.


9 posted on 03/27/2006 11:38:48 AM PST by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: sitetest
True, the Olivetans are only a small group within the Benedictine order. Their name taken from, or rather selected by the renaming of their mountain retreat.

St. Bernard Ptolomei renamed the Benedictine's retreat to "Monte Oliveto" in rememberance of Christ's passion at the olive grove.

INFO HERE

Thanks for clarifying and inticing me into the refresher course on the Benedictines.

10 posted on 03/27/2006 11:56:57 AM PST by infidel29 ("We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid." --Benjamin Franklin)
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To: bkj

Interesting post. Msgr. Parolin need not take the name of Peter as pope since his first name is already Peter. I disagree with the rest of the thinking however.

This pope, BXVI, was largely formed by the Benedictines. He spent some time in their monasteries although never officially became one. If anyone bothers to read his writings, his philosophy is distinctly Benedictine. He chose his name in honor of the order.

Petrus Romanus has been referred to in several prophecies apart from St. Malachy. There are two theories. The pope of Fatima prediction who flees Rome may be BVXI. That pope will die a cruel death after remaining in hiding for a short time. An anti-pope will take the throne in his place, someone not validly elected although the world will accept him (Mahony's man, Levada anyone??) At this point the prophecies diverge. Some state the remaining faithful bishops and cardinals of the world will secretly convene and elect a valid pope. Other prophecies state Heaven itself will chose Peter the Roman via the reappearance of Moses and Elijah.

The prophecies are apocalyptic at this point. We'll only know for certain when the time comes.


11 posted on 03/27/2006 12:00:31 PM PST by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: sitetest
You know that St. Benedict founded the Benedictines... And some Benedictines are called "Olivetans"...

But that means there were 15 other "Glories of the Olive[tans]" before this one.

When I was a clinical psych grad student, I'd get saner connections from the schizophrenics at St. Elizabeth's.

To use the technical term from Catholic theology: bingo!

12 posted on 03/27/2006 12:27:08 PM PST by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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To: bkj

I smell ozone. Me thinks you are a troll.


13 posted on 03/27/2006 12:31:19 PM PST by big'ol_freeper (..it takes some pretty serious yodeling to..filibuster from a five star ski resort in the Swiss Alps)
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To: sitetest

Maybe his grandmother was Olivia???


14 posted on 03/27/2006 7:10:54 PM PST by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
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To: Campion
Now if the prophecy were "Glory of the Beer Stein"

I would drink to that :)

15 posted on 03/27/2006 7:22:10 PM PST by NeoCaveman (the freeper formerly known as dubyaismypresident)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

Dear Canticle,

Greatly appreciate your input. Some things there to think about, thank you.


16 posted on 03/29/2006 6:13:47 PM PST by bkj
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To: bkj

This now seems a bit closer to truth.


17 posted on 09/18/2006 1:44:30 PM PDT by Travimoto
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To: Campion

hi
been thinking its more to do with the olive branch that hes handing out left right and center lately....


18 posted on 08/31/2008 7:22:59 AM PDT by pgwpoot
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To: infidel29

Jesus Christ has raised me from the dead!

I am in the process of attempting to respond to the first 1000 results in a google search for ‘Peter the Roman’, the final pontiff in the St. Malachy prophecies. Total results are over 3 million. Yet, the prophecy given in 1139 A.D. was in virtual obscurity for over 400 years until the invention of the printing press. In the computer age there has been a resurgence in the interest of the list of names.

As Jesus Christ spoke of not rejoicing over our ability to pray that our joy may be full, but that our names are written in heaven, and the fact that Jesus Christ has raised me from the dead to the office of ‘Peter the Roman’, I hold that the list of names in the St. Malachy prophecies are akin to, if not exactly, those very names written in heaven.

Even Nostradamus spoke of ‘Peter the Roman’ in Century VII, #24.

The use of ‘the strong one’ in the quatrain refers to Daniel 7:7.

Jesus Christ’s resurrecting me is in His fulfillment of an agreement of contract law (Matthew 3:15) into which both He and I entered prior to my baptising Him.

Free Republic comes up in the 10 of results.

I am pleased to meet you.

Please feel free to respond.

The reality of the future is not totally revealed to us, it is written, “eye hath not seen, nor ear heard of the wonders God has in store for us.”

As Christ had sent me to bear him witness, I now bear witness that HEAVEN IS GREAT!!!

The world will be saved through the Blessed Virgin Mary’s Brown Scapular and Rosary as prophesied.

I normally use my surname, Edward Palamar, but I remain:

the resurrected John,
Prophet of the Most High,
whom Jesus Christ called the “Elias who was to come.”,
St. John the Baptist,
enjoying the rapture in the call of duty as Peter the Roman


19 posted on 01/21/2010 8:17:46 PM PST by Edward Palamar
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To: Campion

Saint Benedict was the patron saint of Europe (sixth century) and created The Order of Saint Benedict ,they were called the Olivetans because their symbol was the olive. This is the connection.

Maybe St Malachi was telling the truth.


20 posted on 02/14/2010 11:41:34 AM PST by Jimmysqs
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To: bkj

Interesting call that Pietro is now Secretary of State, often thought of as #2 in the Vatican hierarchy.

Sure, Pope Francis seems to completely debunk Malachy, since he succeeds “The Glory of the Olives.” But what it the glory of the olives is that after being cut off, Benedict is grafted back onto the tree, and returns as Pope?

Truthfully, Peter the Roman is an invention centuries more recent than the already silly Prophecies of four-centuries-after Malachy. But I’m like a cat with a ball of yarn when it comes to conspiracy theories, prophecies, etc.


21 posted on 01/20/2014 9:09:51 PM PST by dangus
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