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To: DouglasKC
Oh yes, I'm pretty familiar with the reasoning behind why these decisions were made. I don't agree with them.

Yes, you would agree more with the side that were called "Judaizers."

Unfortunately orthodoxy went to far.

Yes, that's what they would say.

I'm afraid that you're under the impression that I'm advocating Judaism.

No, just the Judaism at the time of Christ - something that cannot be unless one can, or tries to, freeze time.

My understanding is that tradition can supercede scripture in the Catholic church.

Not supercede. They both share the same source.

Tradition is great, but when it disagrees with scripture I'm sticking with scripture.

Yes, that's what one does according to your tradition.

However, disagreement is in the eyes of the beholder. For example, in my eyes, your sola scriptura disagrees. And you follow your tradition instead of scripture in this case.

49 posted on 04/15/2006 6:37:47 PM PDT by D-fendr
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To: D-fendr
Yes, you would agree more with the side that were called "Judaizers."

Nope. What you call "Judaizers" were those who wanted to impose all the Pharasetical, non-biblical rules and regulation that had accumulated over the centuries.

No, just the Judaism at the time of Christ - something that cannot be unless one can, or tries to, freeze time.

Not correct. Christ didn't even agree with the Judaism of the time:

Mar 7:2 And when they saw some of his disciples eat bread with defiled, that is to say, with unwashen, hands, they found fault.
Mar 7:3 For the Pharisees, and all the Jews, except they wash their hands oft, eat not, holding the tradition of the elders.
Mar 7:4 And when they come from the market, except they wash, they eat not. And many other things there be, which they have received to hold, as the washing of cups, and pots, brazen vessels, and of tables.
Mar 7:5 Then the Pharisees and scribes asked him, Why walk not thy disciples according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashen hands?
Mar 7:6 He answered and said unto them, Well hath Isaiah prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoreth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me
Mar 7:7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
Mar 7:8 For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.
Mar 7:9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.

This are the "Judaizers" you're worried about, not those who follow the commandments of God in scripture. You're failing to discern the difference.

50 posted on 04/15/2006 6:50:07 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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