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The Serpent of Porn
Agape Press ^ | 4/20/06 | Steve Gallagher

Posted on 04/20/2006 5:26:26 PM PDT by wagglebee

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1 posted on 04/20/2006 5:26:28 PM PDT by wagglebee
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To: Alexander Rubin; An American In Dairyland; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; BIRDS; BlackElk; BlessedBeGod; ...
MORAL ABSOLUTES PING.

DISCUSSION ABOUT:

"The Serpent of Porn"

There is no doubt in my mind that the libertarians will probably show up on this thread to explain how they watch pornography all the time and how wonderful it is.

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2 posted on 04/20/2006 5:29:13 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee

There was no doubt that someone would be out there judging others.


3 posted on 04/20/2006 5:33:31 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: driftdiver

Solomon didn't need porn, with all those wives he had.


4 posted on 04/20/2006 5:35:57 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: driftdiver

Who's judging who?


5 posted on 04/20/2006 5:36:58 PM PDT by bahblahbah
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To: wagglebee

Thanks for telling everyone what to do or what not to do, I can tell you where you can stick this article.


6 posted on 04/20/2006 5:37:04 PM PDT by Panerai
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To: wagglebee

You forgot to post this classic from Pure Life Ministries.

 

> Q: How does masturbation affect a marriage? How can I know if my husband is still involved?

 

> A: Masturbation is very damaging to a marriage because it is self-centered in nature. Marriage, in all aspects, is a joint venture. When one partner goes in a direction that excludes his/her spouse, (especially with regard to sexual things) it causes a deep rift that ripples through all areas of the relationship. Masturbation is corrupting. Sex was never intended to be solo. I wrote the following in my book:

 

“Men in sexual sin can be extremely smooth and very cunning.  Most have perfected the art of deception and have led a double life for many years. Only the Lord knows the complete truth about what a man is really doing in private. Therefore, the wife must really turn to Him for help, but sometimes it's hard to know the truth about what's going on…

 

“Does he give vague answers, or does he seem sincere?  Has he been angry, defensive or combative like he may have been in the past?  How does he treat you and the kids?

 

“What about his walk with God?  Does he seem hungry for the Lord?  Does he look forward to going to church, or does he look for ways to get out of going?  Does he spend time with the Lord each day?  Is he reading his Bible?  Does he spend hours sitting in front of the television?...

 

"If he is truly walking in the light, there should be some signs of real growth. A man in sexual sin, regardless of his personality type, always acts different than one who has a genuine heart after God…

 

“I encourage you to use the questions listed above as tools to help you honestly evaluate your suspicions. If, after answering these questions, you still have nothing concrete to go on except a nagging sense that something is not right, get down on your knees before God. Deliberately put your husband in His hands. Then, ask Him to expose any secret sin that your husband might be involved in. Finally, pray that He sets you free from any life-dominating fear. Trust Him to answer your prayers.”

7 posted on 04/20/2006 5:37:31 PM PDT by peyton randolph (Time for an electoral revolution where the ballot box is the guillotine)
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To: peyton randolph
Here's the link for # 7 in case anyone thinks I'm kidding.
8 posted on 04/20/2006 5:39:19 PM PDT by peyton randolph (Time for an electoral revolution where the ballot box is the guillotine)
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To: All

The 3rd tablet that was dropped by Moses had "Thou Shalt Not Watch Porn", don't remember the other 4 but I'm sure we will see them under this post shortly.


9 posted on 04/20/2006 5:41:11 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (If we do not learn from history we are doomed to repeat it. But then again, it repeats regardless.)
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To: wagglebee
Ecclesiastes 2:10 comes to mind.
10 posted on 04/20/2006 5:41:16 PM PDT by Michael Goldsberry (Lt. Bruce C. Fryar USN 01-02-70 Laos)
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To: wagglebee
I know Mr. Gallagher means well, but for reasons that should be clear already, a spitting cobra is probably the single most unfortunate image one could choose to introduce into an essay on this particular topic.
11 posted on 04/20/2006 5:44:07 PM PDT by RichInOC ("The Internet is really, really great--")
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To: Michael Goldsberry
However, that verse is meaningless without the one that follows it:

Yet when I surveyed all that my hands had done
and what I had toiled to achieve,
everything was meaningless, a chasing after the wind;
nothing was gained under the sun.

12 posted on 04/20/2006 5:44:59 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: Michael Goldsberry

Is anyone here going to say that pornography is a good thing, a positive development of the past 40 years? Apparrently it causes a lot of damage to people. It's one thing to say you have a "right" to it, but another thing if it takes over your life and ruins your life or marriage.


13 posted on 04/20/2006 5:45:14 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: wagglebee

Great Article


14 posted on 04/20/2006 5:47:08 PM PDT by RunningWolf (Vet US Army Air Cav 1975)
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To: Michael Goldsberry
Ecclesiastes 2:10 comes to mind.

Nah. Citing Ecclesiastes is tricky; it's not an argument for permissiveness but rather an assertion that everything is meaningless outside the context of God. That book in particular has got to be taken as a whole, not piecemeal.

15 posted on 04/20/2006 5:48:03 PM PDT by TenaciousZ
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Is anyone here going to say that pornography is a good thing, a positive development of the past 40 years?

Stick around and you'll see.

Welcome to FR.

16 posted on 04/20/2006 5:48:53 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee

Exactly correct.

But, the dude done did it.

Wisest man ever...


17 posted on 04/20/2006 5:49:26 PM PDT by Michael Goldsberry (Lt. Bruce C. Fryar USN 01-02-70 Laos)
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To: All

intrusive and judgmental scold PING


18 posted on 04/20/2006 5:50:28 PM PDT by Bird Jenkins
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To: wagglebee

Find a child molestor who does not have a stack of kiddie porn, driving his fantasies to do evil. The only difference between adult and kiddie porn is the legality.


19 posted on 04/20/2006 5:51:09 PM PDT by HumanitysEdge (http://calc.homeip.net/humanedge.html)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Is anyone here going to say that pornography is a good thing,

Nope.

20 posted on 04/20/2006 5:51:22 PM PDT by Michael Goldsberry (Lt. Bruce C. Fryar USN 01-02-70 Laos)
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To: Michael Goldsberry

I've did a lot of things in my time that I would gladly have passed on if given the chance to do it again. Much of Scripture (especially the OT) is about the lessons we can learn from the mistakes of others.


21 posted on 04/20/2006 5:52:12 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee
I've did a lot of things in my time that I would gladly have passed on...

Hence, the NT!

;)

22 posted on 04/20/2006 5:53:50 PM PDT by Michael Goldsberry (Lt. Bruce C. Fryar USN 01-02-70 Laos)
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To: wagglebee
Every tick of the clock could be harboring a voluptuous temptress, ready to lure him back into sin.

Paste this up on your computer screen and all thoughts of porn will instantly vanish.

23 posted on 04/20/2006 5:54:41 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: Michael Goldsberry
Unfortunately, many do not understand that "Go and sin no more" was not a rhetorical statement.
24 posted on 04/20/2006 5:57:05 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee
That one glimpse of porn unleashes a poison that rockets into the man's soul and instantly spreads throughout his being. Just like a snakebite victim, he enters a catatonic state of mind: a sexual trance where all reason seems to abandon him. Lust rushes through his body; his face flushes with excitement; his palms get sweaty.

Wow...that sounds like some seriously good porn. I sure haven't ever seen the like. Where can I get some?

25 posted on 04/20/2006 5:58:43 PM PDT by Physicist
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To: wagglebee

Something about that title...


26 posted on 04/20/2006 6:01:57 PM PDT by DaGman
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To: Physicist

"Wow...that sounds like some seriously good porn. I sure haven't ever seen the like. Where can I get some?"


No doubt Jenna is in that one... : )


27 posted on 04/20/2006 6:04:03 PM PDT by Hand em their arse
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To: wagglebee
"Go and sin no more"

Another wonderful quote. Jesus to the prostitute who avoided stoning, IIRC.

We should all abide by such advice.

28 posted on 04/20/2006 6:04:43 PM PDT by Michael Goldsberry (Lt. Bruce C. Fryar USN 01-02-70 Laos)
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To: Lizavetta

LOL! Helen makes a good scarecrow ;o)


29 posted on 04/20/2006 6:09:09 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
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To: Michael Goldsberry

My wife and I have all our porn. It can be banned anytime.


30 posted on 04/20/2006 6:13:09 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: onedoug

It's not porn when you're married.

Turn the camera off, please.


32 posted on 04/20/2006 6:17:39 PM PDT by Michael Goldsberry (Lt. Bruce C. Fryar USN 01-02-70 Laos)
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To: wagglebee

Without prejudice to the overall message of the article, Solomon is the exemplar of, "Do as I say, not as I do."


33 posted on 04/20/2006 6:22:03 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Dump the 1967 Outer Space Treaty! I'll weigh less on Mars!)
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To: wagglebee

Good article.


34 posted on 04/20/2006 6:27:36 PM PDT by DaveMSmith (All religion is of life, and a life of religion is to do good.)
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To: wagglebee
I've did a lot of things in my time that I would gladly have passed on if given the chance to do it again.

All is forgiven but sometimes scars are left.

35 posted on 04/20/2006 6:44:12 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: wagglebee
There is no doubt in my mind that the libertarians will probably show up on this thread to explain how they watch pornography all the time and how wonderful it is.

I doubt it. Expect the same sneers, jeers, and liberal smears that usually come with such posts.
36 posted on 04/20/2006 6:56:22 PM PDT by Das Outsider (Are Marxist academics and apostate bishops trustworthy enough to tell you who the "real" Jesus is?)
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To: Graybeard58

"All is forgiven but sometimes scars are left."

But God can heal the scars if we let him. Jesus Christ makes all things new, and will do so to us if we follow Him. I know this.


37 posted on 04/20/2006 7:03:43 PM PDT by walden
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To: Lizavetta
Paste this up on your computer screen and all thoughts of porn will instantly vanish.

Symptoms will also include:

-Dizziness
-Nausea
-Temporary blindness
-Permanent blindness
-Sterility in men
-Uncontrollable desire to harm, maim, or kill screech owls

If you are experiencing two or more of these symptoms, consult a physician immediately. Victims of Thomas's Syndrome should be moved to a well ventilated, dimly lit area and kept from the offending material until medical attention can be delivered.

Even minimal exposure to H. Thomasae (2-5 viewings per week) can lead to irreversible retinal damage, reproductive dysfunction, brain wasting, and in extreme cases, death.
39 posted on 04/20/2006 7:28:34 PM PDT by Das Outsider (Are Marxist academics and apostate bishops trustworthy enough to tell you who the "real" Jesus is?)
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To: Michael Goldsberry

sweet. i got to remember that one when i need an excuse


40 posted on 04/20/2006 8:30:38 PM PDT by wallcrawlr (http://www.bionicear.com/)
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To: Michael Goldsberry

Thanks for your service.


41 posted on 04/20/2006 8:42:45 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: bahblahbah

"Who's judging who?"

did you read post 2?


42 posted on 04/21/2006 4:28:24 AM PDT by driftdiver
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To: Dilbert San Diego

"Is anyone here going to say that pornography is a good thing, a positive development of the past 40 years? Apparrently it causes a lot of damage to people. It's one thing to say you have a "right" to it, but another thing if it takes over your life and ruins your life or marriage."

Only the people that make a lot of money from it. It not only damages relationships on those that watch it. It destroys the lives of the actors and actresses.


43 posted on 04/21/2006 4:30:18 AM PDT by driftdiver
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To: Luke21

"Solomon didn't need porn, with all those wives he had."

Gore hadn't invented the internet yet.


44 posted on 04/21/2006 4:31:17 AM PDT by driftdiver
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To: wagglebee
Pornography is the venue of a lonely, unhappy man.

The solution to his loneliness and unhappiness is God. But, with sex literally HARD-WIRED into both genders, especially in young men, it's a hard road to follow. Contentment and peace usually come with time, but meanwhile, pornography temporarily, though inadequately, fills a gap.

The worst danger of pornography is that satiation occurs rather quickly, so worse and worse pornography is viewed and becomes mundane. Therein lies the trap. Where and when does it ever stop?

The men and women who step in front of the camera are basically narcissistic exhibitionists, with rather large holes in their souls...no self respect. If one can't respect oneself, then one cannot love oneself. When one can't love self, then one can't love anyone else in the world.
Therein lies a lifetime of loneliness and unhappiness.

45 posted on 04/21/2006 6:13:25 AM PDT by starfish923 (Socrates: It's never right to do wrong.)
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To: peyton randolph
Here's the link for # 7 in case anyone thinks I'm kidding.

Looks like excellent advice to me, no kidding at all. Masturbation is profoundly immature sexuality -- the epitome of childish selfishness. Grown-up men ought to have mastery over themselves and be able to resist that temptation. A healthy marriage makes it much easier to resist, also.

46 posted on 04/21/2006 6:22:28 AM PDT by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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To: Campion

You missed the memo, again! Because chastity is difficult and requires self-denial, we're supposed to ridicule anyone who suggests that we even attempt it.


47 posted on 04/21/2006 7:03:16 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Dump the 1967 Outer Space Treaty! I'll weigh less on Mars!)
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To: Panerai; wagglebee

Feeling a little guilty???


48 posted on 04/21/2006 7:05:59 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: Tax-chick
You missed the memo, again! Because chastity is difficult and requires self-denial, we're supposed to ridicule anyone who suggests that we even attempt it.

You can tell that the ship is taking on water when virtue is viewed as slavery, not as the necessary prerequisite to authentic freedom.

49 posted on 04/21/2006 7:11:03 AM PDT by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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To: Michael Goldsberry
We should all abide by such advice.

Has anyone ever been able to?

50 posted on 04/21/2006 7:15:46 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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