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Gnostics' favorite scholar gets a free pass from critics
CWNews.com, The Forum ^ | May 9, 2006 | Phil Lawler

Posted on 05/09/2006 4:18:05 PM PDT by Frank Sheed

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1 posted on 05/09/2006 4:18:07 PM PDT by Frank Sheed
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To: NYer; Aquinasfan; Campion; Salvation; sandyeggo; Tax-chick; Desdemona; ninenot; BlackElk; ...

>>>>>>>>>Da Vinci Code Hoax Ping!!!!!!!!!<<<<<<<<<<<<<


2 posted on 05/09/2006 4:20:05 PM PDT by Frank Sheed (Tá brón orainn. Níl Spáinnis againn anseo.)
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To: eleni121; Unam Sanctam; Antoninus; livius

Ping!


3 posted on 05/09/2006 4:22:51 PM PDT by Frank Sheed (Tá brón orainn. Níl Spáinnis againn anseo.)
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To: Frank Sheed

"Fake but accurate." Why should we be surprised?


4 posted on 05/09/2006 4:26:25 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Dump the 1967 Outer Space Treaty! I'll weigh 50% less on Mars!)
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To: Tax-chick

Inspector Reynaud: "Rick, I'm shocked, shocked that there is gambling going on in this establishment!"

Waiter: "Inspector, wait! Here are your winnings!"

;-o)
Casablanca


5 posted on 05/09/2006 4:29:06 PM PDT by Frank Sheed (Tá brón orainn. Níl Spáinnis againn anseo.)
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To: Frank Sheed

There's a reason why Brown's book is considered a work of fiction.


6 posted on 05/09/2006 4:34:29 PM PDT by Kenny Bunkport
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True story:

I was having a conversation with a 20-something a few years back and I mentioned Martin Luther. She responded that he was really a charismatic guy and that it was a shame he got shot. I paused and said that I was speaking about THE Martin Luther and not Martin Luther King who was named after him. Then I asked if she had heard of Martin Luther or knew about the Protestant Reformation. She just stared at me blankly and then said something to the effect that she was not very good in current events.

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7 posted on 05/09/2006 4:41:41 PM PDT by Frank Sheed (Tá brón orainn. Níl Spáinnis againn anseo.)
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Tell me this person was a druggie, slow mentally, or otherwise had some excuse for not having heard of the Reformation . . .

. . . hope you met her slinging fries at MackyD's, and not taking your pulse in a doctor's office . . .

8 posted on 05/09/2006 7:14:11 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: Frank Sheed

For some people (many? most?), 15 years ago is ancient history.


9 posted on 05/09/2006 7:55:27 PM PDT by Kenny Bunkport
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Tell me this person was a druggie, slow mentally, or otherwise had some excuse for not having heard of the Reformation

Just a product of today's gummint schools, I surmise

10 posted on 05/09/2006 8:02:10 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." LINCOLN)
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To: Frank Sheed
A lifetime of heresy doesn't seem to have brought any joy in her life. Smile Elaine, you gave it your best shot!

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11 posted on 05/09/2006 9:18:50 PM PDT by Antioch (Benedikt Gott Geschickt)
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To: Frank Sheed

Your post is chilling! This next generation is just plain frightening.


12 posted on 05/09/2006 9:20:28 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: Kenny Bunkport

Fiction captures the times, and Pagels has had influence far beyond academia, because she feeds the hunger of persons deprived of faith in Christianity with a kind of substitute for it. They no longer believe in religious truth, and her "truthiness" to them is good enough. She convinces them that they understand the gnostics when they are incapable of understand Irenaeus. Pagels falsely tells us that the bishop had power to suppress when he actually had no such thing.


13 posted on 05/09/2006 10:11:58 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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Good article. Not mentioned is that Elaine Pagels came out of the "feminist phony scholarship" world that has never, ever been challenged, anymore than the "black phony scholarship" world, which contained black university professors who taught that the Egyptians were secretly sub-Saharan Africans and that the world was divided into the Ice People (whites) and the Sun People (blacks).

In the phony scholarship world, the fundamental assumption is of a parallel history that has been covered up and has been left to the phony scholar alone to reveal.

If you start with the assumption that known history is a cover-up, naturally you're going to produce some bizarre results. But other people in your particular discipline are so intimidated by your PC credentials that they are afraid to challenge you and think it better to quietly ignore your "finds," which were arrived at by, at best, leaps of logic and at worst, intentional manipulation of sources.

Pagels is just doing the same-old same-old "feminist scholarship" routine, which is why nobody even expects her to tell the truth.


14 posted on 05/10/2006 4:07:31 AM PDT by livius
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She is a very naughty historian.

*She is a liar doing the work of the Devil, And, YIPEE, some great work by a Jebbie!!!!

15 posted on 05/10/2006 4:31:39 AM PDT by bornacatholic (Pope Paul VI. "Use of the old Ordo Missae is in no way left to the choice of priests or people.")
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To: AnAmericanMother

She was a history major at Notre Dame


16 posted on 05/10/2006 4:32:32 AM PDT by bornacatholic (Pope Paul VI. "Use of the old Ordo Missae is in no way left to the choice of priests or people.")
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bump


17 posted on 05/10/2006 4:39:20 AM PDT by Tribune7
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OMG!

< tin foil hat > . . . maybe the faculty at ND have concealed the existence of the Reformation from their students . . . nah . . . < /tin foil hat >

Seriously, that is frightening. She must be doing "feminist history" or some such bunk.

I was a history major myself . . . but my Scotch Presbyterian grandparents made sure I knew what the Reformation was in my cradle (I may be the only Episcopalian child who ever received a copy of the Westminster Catechism at Confirmation . . . ) They would have a collective Calvinist Cow if they knew we had Gone Over to Rome . ..

18 posted on 05/10/2006 5:18:24 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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Good catch Frank!

a mid-sentence shift of 34 chapters backwards through the cited text

She should be disciplined for this.

19 posted on 05/10/2006 5:43:35 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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