Lutheran Ping
I wouldn't put it past the homo activists to try this in the ELCA, too.
Posted on 06/20/2006 4:42:27 AM PDT by TonyRo76
The first woman leader of the 2.3 million-member Episcopal Church said Monday that she believed homosexuality was no sin and homosexuals were created by God to love people of the same gender.
Katharine Jefferts Schori, bishop of the Diocese of Nevada, was interviewed on CNN, one day after she was elected as leader of the U.S. branch of the worldwide Anglican Communion.
When asked if it was a sin to be homosexual, she replied:
"I don't believe so. I believe that God creates us with different gifts. Each one of us comes into this world with a different collection of things that challenge us and things that give us joy and allow us to bless the world around us," she said.
"Some people come into this world with affections ordered toward other people of the same gender and some people come into this world with affections directed at people of the other gender."
The Episcopal Church is deeply divided over homosexuality. Several dioceses and parishes are threatening to break away.
When asked about passages in the Bible declaring sexual relations between men an abomination, Jefferts Schori said the Bible was written in a very different historical context by people asking different questions.
"The Bible has a great deal to teach us about how to live as human beings. The Bible does not have so much to teach us about what sorts of food to eat, what sorts of clothes to wear -- there are rules in the Bible about those that we don't observe today," she said.
"The Bible tells us about how to treat other human beings, and that's certainly the great message of Jesus -- to include the unincluded."
I wouldn't put it past the homo activists to try this in the ELCA, too.
Ping!
So am I to take it that ECUSA is officially no longer a Christian religion?
One wonders if this isn't a ploy to attract new members to a dying denomination. Kinda like Democrats wooing illegals and felons. It's all about votes, membership, and money.
This is the end of the Episcopal Church in America.
Hey! You've got chocolate on my 'peanut butter'.
God: Homosexuality Is a Sin
Worth repeating many, many times, H.
Antinomianism ~ gad!!!!
It's simply another heresy.
And what about pedophiles? Did God create them that way too?
Why does anyone belong to this joke denominations anymore?
I'm sure they'll be next in line. Gotta be hip and "with it", ya know...
Actually, I've noticed the Episcopal Church running TV ads lately.
The only other churches I've seen advertise on TV are the United Methodists and the United Church of Christ. (Remember those stupid "Bouncer" ads?)
Not that I blame them for trying, but...how about some substance and truth once people get there?
Exactly!! "Standards, what standards?"
Revolting, in more ways than one.
Well, heresy is one thing, but this is off the charts.
Substance? Truth? Hmmm, can't find it in this marketing manual. I do notice, however, that the manual was written by the good folks at the DNC...
Would they be surprised!
One priest had the audacity to say that Sodom and Gommorah were destroyed not for the men of the cities wanting to sodomize the angels who visited Lot but because of a lack of "hospitality."
Yep. Only reason God destroyed those Twin(k) Cities was because they didn't treat them to dinner and a movie first.
A person has to really be desperate, delusional and despicable (in short, a liberal) to come up with crap like this.
A special place in Hell has to be reserved for people like this that tell people there is nothing wrong with their perversion because they have special gifts from God.
There must be some active, Christian congregations within the American Anglican Church. They should arrange for the international Anglican Church to expel these Leftists for apostacy, and replace them with conservative lay ministry, or import some Southern Baptists.
This passage reflects that precisely:
Jefferts Schori said the Bible was written in a very different historical context by people asking different questions.That alone deserves a great big HURL alert!
They would declare war over this, without a doubt.
the bible I read calls homosexuality an abomination. maybe she's reading from a different bible?
They already have.
There certainly are. Conservative resistance to this insanity has been steadily growing. More orthodox Anglican parishes are seeking episcopal oversight from Biblically-minded prelates overseas. Whole dioceses are challenging the entrenched, apostate elite. Affiliations could shift in even more dramatic ways down the road.
Such heroism goes widely unreported in the MSM (cheerleaders for the perverts), but conservative Anglicans aren't taking all this lying down.
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She failed and was turned to stone or rock salt. Per the ancient story, her husband ended up in the sack with the daughters.
Clearly Sodom and Gomorrah was the wrong place for Mrs. Lot to allow Mr. Lot to move the family ~ there were, as it turned out, no men available for marriage!
It was a given that homosexuality works contrary to the biological imperative ~ everyone hearing the most ancient original story, or reading the updated and modernized version found in the Bible would have recognized that.
This Episcopal leader appears to be unable to understand what she reads, if she reads at all.
The Church of Narcissism & Nihilism.
I haven't found anything to replace it yet, but I'm glad I left it.
Peace be with you, my FRiend.
Leading the blind astray on the road? Yes, Hell definitely has a special room or two reserved for such people.
She is evil.
If she is, she will attract the very people who would further disintegrate the Church and lead it farther down Satan's path.
The new presiding bishop is a Spong protegee, which explains a lot.
He is dead against any form of apology for the consecration of Gene Robinson. If the convention votes to apologize now, after voting in Schori, I'll eat my hat. They ain't gonna do it.
The good news is that ECUSA would officially be out of the Anglican communion, the bad news is that the revisionists will launch a full out assault against the orthodox, seize their properties, and profane them. It's happening now, of course, but it will really pick up speed after this week is over.
Un-freaking-believable! What cerebral acrobatics lead them to come up with such hooey?
My read is that the "end" started with the ordination of women. Pandora's box, that is, a change in the age-old traditions of the Church, is inexorably open.
First it was women priests, then homosexuals, then "MARRIED" homosexuals....what on earth could be next/worst?
But what surprises me? There have been no "bombings or torchings" of US Episcopalian churches -- only Baptist churches. For years, I've found this curious.
In 1979, when they replaced the 1928 BCP, I left the Episcopal church and became a member of the Lutheran Church, Missouri Synod years ago. Still a very conservative denomination.
In all that time, the one consistent "fact" that's presented when talking about Episco-Pagans is the 2.3 million membership level. I believe that's baloney. People have been leaving that denomination like the 2nd Exodus, but still, in every article, you see that number. Does anyone here know how they come up with this number?
I discuss Abraham Maslow's idea of "inclusivity" as the primary moral principle in my book The Road to Malpsychia. Maslow hated organized religion and wanted to destroy it. Ironically, however, his ideas were popular with Catholic and Protestant activists. He used to muse that if these people really understood him they would never invite him to speak at their meetings.
Posted here yesterday:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1652010/posts
You mean Hanson? LOL!
:)
Thank you, God, for not giving me that particular gift.
"Howard Dean left the Episcopal Church--which is barely even a church--because his church in Montpelier, Vermont, would not cede land for a bike path. Environmentally friendly exercise was more important than tending to the human soul."
Apparently it's still too much of a church for Howie Dean.
Oh my. That does say a lot about her, and none of it particularly good. Spong was a giant when it came to false teachings!
"I believe that God creates us with different gifts."
Uhmmmm...nope, I wouldn't think of it as a "gift".
Did God create sin? Yet sin is everywhere...
Poor logic from a so called leader....
We wish, but liberalism is alive and well in Churches in America.
Is this a denomination or an abomination?
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