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Bishop Katherine celebrates transgender Jesus
VirtueOnline ^ | 21 June A.D. 2006 | Hans Zeiger

Posted on 06/21/2006 12:53:53 PM PDT by lightman

COLUMBUS, OH: Bishop Katherine celebrates transgender Jesus

By Hans Zeiger VirtueOnline Correspondent www.virtueonline.org

COLUMBUS, OHIO (6/21/06)-While addressing a morning Eucharist at the 75th General Convention of the Episcopal Church, Presiding Bishop-elect Katherine Jefferts Schori declared, "Our mother Jesus gives birth to a new creation. And you and I are His children."

With Jefferts Schori as the leader-to-be of the Episcopal Chuch, it seems that the church will move beyond gender-inclusive language to transgender-inclusive language.

Yesterday however, the Episcopal Church's House of Bishops refused to even consider a resolution that would affirm the exclusive Lordship of Jesus Christ as "the only name by which any person may be saved." The Rev. Canon Eugene McDowell of the Diocese of North Carolina explained, "This type of language was used in 1920s and 1930s to alienate the type of people who were executed. It was called the Holocaust."

Perhaps Episcopalians would be more receptive of a resolution affirming the supreme transexuality of


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Full text of this miserable excuse of a homily from www.alpb.org

SERMON BY THE RT. REV. KATHLEEN SCHORI, PB-ELECT.
June 21, 2006

Last Sunday morning, I woke very early but it was still dark. I must have been thinking about something. I wanted to go for a run, but had to wait for enough light to see. Ran by back of Hyatt. The men working by the dumpster were startled.

I saw a man from convention center and we said a quiet good morning. Then I found a quiet green park in the middle of this city. There was a man standing there, in an orange reflective vest standing by orange cones. I said good morning; he responded in kind. Then there was the bleary-eyed fellow with several bags. Said good morning to him, too but when past him on street, not the sidewalk.

A rabbit was hopping along the sidewalk. It looked at me and we shared a moment of greeting. A woman delivering Sunday papers, getting out of the car and delivering the paper to doorsteps. She didn’t get out of the car until I was well past her.

On the other side of the freeway, I found two guys, just going to work. They, too, looked weary.

There was some degree of weariness in all of them. Trying to greet each other, but the sense of relationship, whether out of fear, or caution, meant that we had a long way to go.

Can we dream of a world where all creatures, human and not, can greet each other without fear? Christ said his kingdom was “not of this world.” His willingness to go to the cross is so radical that fear has no import. The love that he invites us to imitate has no possibility of reactive or violent response. His followers didn’t fight back.

He calls us friends not agents of fear.

If we are going to grow to full statute of Christ, our growing will need to be rooted in a soil of internal peace, confidant and planted in the overwhelming love of God. Given so abundant, so profligate, that we are caught in similar abandonment. The full measure of God, cast down and overflowing, drives out our , self-interest. That is what fear is. A reaction; an unconscious response. As if we are saying, “that’s mine and I can’t go on living without it.”

Whether its my bank account or my sense of control. Unless we can make sense of the blood of the cross, we will live in fear. That bloody cross brings new life into the world. That sweaty, bloody, tear-stained cross bears life. Our mother Jesus [yes, folks. That is what she said.] gives new birth to a new creation and we are his children.

We have to give up fear. What did the godly messengers say when they turned up to the shepherds: fear not. You are God’s beloved and he is well pleased with you. When we know ourselves beloved of God, we can respond in less fearful ways. When we realize this, we can response to the homeless man; seek and reach beyond the defenses of others.

Our job as we go out from this convention is to go out without fear and lay down our sword and shield; fill the hungry and set the prisoners free. Lay down our self-control and serve God’s image of the beloved in the weakest, poorest and least included. Not to squabble over our heritage.

But to share that name of the beloved with the whole world. AMEN

1 posted on 06/21/2006 12:53:58 PM PDT by lightman
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To: sionnsar; TonyRo76

Ping, please.


2 posted on 06/21/2006 12:54:47 PM PDT by lightman (The Office of the Keys should be exercised as some ministry needs to be exorcised.)
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To: lightman

Wow. It's just one thing after another with this bunch.


3 posted on 06/21/2006 12:55:55 PM PDT by AmishDude (I am the King Nut.)
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To: lightman

Do you hear that? That's the sound of denominational schism approaching at mach 20.


4 posted on 06/21/2006 12:56:29 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: lightman
Why did I wait so long to leave that apostate farce of a church??
5 posted on 06/21/2006 12:58:32 PM PDT by mgstarr
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To: lightman

Why do these people even pretend to be interested in God.


6 posted on 06/21/2006 1:00:07 PM PDT by Kenny Bunkport
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To: lightman

How did the corruption in the Episcopal church ever get so deep?


7 posted on 06/21/2006 1:03:05 PM PDT by ConservativeMind
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To: lightman
When we know ourselves beloved of God, we can respond in less fearful ways.

Yes, God loves you. And it saddens Him that you will spend eternity in Hell. Perhaps if you were more fearful, things would be different. But He is a jealous God, and He resents the fact that you worship other people's genitals more than you love Him.

8 posted on 06/21/2006 1:04:28 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Without a monkey, "You are nothing, absolutely zero. Absolutely nothing.")
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To: ConservativeMind; Kenny Bunkport
The seeds of this poisonous vine were planted decades ago and very scathingly critiqued by theologian H. Richard Niebuhr who indicted liberal Protestantism for teaching "a God without wrath who brings humans without sin into a kingdom without judgment through a Christ without a cross."

That quote deserves to be committed to memory!

9 posted on 06/21/2006 1:07:02 PM PDT by lightman (The Office of the Keys should be exercised as some ministry needs to be exorcised.)
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To: Kenny Bunkport

Because to their parishioners, they make God look like He agrees with them.

That lets them, on behalf of their selfishness, trump anyone else who also believes in God to keep their attacks at bay.


10 posted on 06/21/2006 1:07:43 PM PDT by ConservativeMind
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To: lightman

That's a great quote.


11 posted on 06/21/2006 1:08:26 PM PDT by Kenny Bunkport
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To: lightman

There is actually some theological basis for what she said, but it still sounds very strange. Jesus is both mother and father to us. I think it was Julian of Norwich who wrote something classic about this. It's more about his role than about his gender. Though for all I know she was trying to make a gender point. She sounds pretty nice, but its still dumping on conservatives.


12 posted on 06/21/2006 1:12:14 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Let us not flinch from identifying liberalism as the opposition party to God.)
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To: ConservativeMind

"How did the corruption in the Episcopal church ever get so deep?"


It started with all the draft dodgers going to seminary in the Sixties and went downhill thereafter. Ditto for the other Drainline denominations.


13 posted on 06/21/2006 1:12:59 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: lightman

Was Niebuhr part of the Confessing Church in Germany during WWII? The church of Bonhoeffer?


14 posted on 06/21/2006 1:13:43 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Let us not flinch from identifying liberalism as the opposition party to God.)
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To: lightman
A rabbit was hopping along the sidewalk. It looked at me and we shared a moment of greeting. A woman delivering Sunday papers, getting out of the car and delivering the paper to doorsteps. She didn’t get out of the car until I was well past her.

I like the "moment of greeting" with the bunny. I usually say hello to cats and rabbits when I'm out for a walk.

On the other side of the freeway, I found two guys, just going to work. They, too, looked weary. There was some degree of weariness in all of them. Trying to greet each other, but the sense of relationship, whether out of fear, or caution, meant that we had a long way to go.

Is she always this garbled, do you think, or was the transcriptionist stuned?

15 posted on 06/21/2006 1:20:19 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("The root of the state is in the family. The root of the family is in the person of its head.")
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To: lightman
A rabbit was hopping along the sidewalk. It looked at me and we shared a moment of greeting.

It's OK to talk to the bunnyrabbits, Kate ... but when they respond, it's time to lay off the tequila.

16 posted on 06/21/2006 1:23:30 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Tax-chick
Is she always this garbled, do you think, or was the transcriptionist stuned?

The beebering got lost in the translation.

17 posted on 06/21/2006 1:25:46 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Yes I backed over the vampire, but I swear I looked in my rearview mirror.)
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To: Tax-chick
A rabbit was hopping along the sidewalk. It looked at me and we shared a moment of greeting.

I've now have that darn song by Jefferson Airplane stuck in my head.

18 posted on 06/21/2006 1:26:49 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (The Latest on the Ohio gov race http://blackwellvstrickland.blogspot.com)
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To: ichabod1
Niebuhr was an American, Ordained in the German speaking Evangelical Synod which merged with the German Reformed Church; the new denomination was called Evangelical and Reformed. In the late 1950's the "E & R" merged with the Congregational Church to become the United Church of Christ.
19 posted on 06/21/2006 1:28:20 PM PDT by lightman (The Office of the Keys should be exercised as some ministry needs to be exorcised.)
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To: DBeers
*turns green* Mega-hurl ping
20 posted on 06/21/2006 1:29:57 PM PDT by darkangel82 (higher visibility leads to greater zottability)
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To: lightman
Um... leaving aside for a moment the fact that Jesus is the SONof God, what does she say to the fact that there's historical records about a MAN named Jesus of Nazareth?
21 posted on 06/21/2006 1:30:40 PM PDT by mikemach5
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To: ichabod1
She sounds pretty nice, but its still dumping on conservatives.

Oh, I think "dumping on conservatives" is quite a propos. Here she is with Louie Crew (LC in bold, Source: The Witness):

What about those who seem bent and determined to leave or to wound the body if they don't get their own way?

I think they need to be challenged, more so than they have been. I see signs of hope in the House of Bishops, an unwillingness to continue to put up with bad behavior. We haven't seen any action yet, but I think it is coming.

Do you have any sense of what that action might be? Would a verbal rebuke be enough?

It won't be enough in some cases, I am sure. But I have the sense that there is some desire to hold each other accountable for actions that are not canonical, for actions that have the appearance of being downright schismatic.

She sounds downright inclusive, no?
22 posted on 06/21/2006 1:30:55 PM PDT by Carolina
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To: ConservativeMind

The laity got lazy after WWII.


23 posted on 06/21/2006 1:39:26 PM PDT by bobjam
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To: defconw; Fudd Fan

Lord have mercy.


24 posted on 06/21/2006 1:41:27 PM PDT by AliVeritas ("One for all , all for kicking *ss and taking names" ...Scratch taking names.)
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To: AliVeritas

Primal Scream Here!


25 posted on 06/21/2006 1:42:50 PM PDT by defconw (Forever a Snowflake! Yes I am a Bushbot, so what of it?)
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To: lightman

Now that is an abomination.


26 posted on 06/21/2006 1:43:47 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: ArrogantBustard

She must have had several of those brownies the night before...


27 posted on 06/21/2006 1:44:48 PM PDT by bobjam
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

But I have this against you, that you tolerate the woman Jez'ebel, who calls herself a prophetess and is teaching and beguiling my servants to practice immorality and to eat food sacrificed to idols. I gave her time to repent, but she refuses to repent of her immorality.

Behold, I will throw her on a sickbed, and those who commit adultery with her I will throw into great tribulation, unless they repent of her doings; and I will strike her children dead. And all the churches shall know that I am he who searches mind and heart, and I will give to each of you as your works deserve.

Revelation 2:20-23


28 posted on 06/21/2006 1:48:40 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: lightman

This is the kind of nonsense one might hear at the local Unitarian church on any given Sunday.


29 posted on 06/21/2006 2:04:28 PM PDT by Deo volente
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To: bobjam

Perchance she was drinking mushroom soup?


30 posted on 06/21/2006 2:07:07 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: lightman
Believe it or not, I've heard worse IMO: an Easter message delivered by an ELCA pastor focusing on butterflies and flowers. Resurrection Sunday, and no mention of the Gospel or Jesus' redeeming us from sin - just a tale of finding encouragement in butterflies and flowers, nature's symbols that we can hope for a fresh beginning.

Still, this ranks up there with that. Swap out the butterflies for this trans-gendered Jesus, and the message is similar.

31 posted on 06/21/2006 2:12:37 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Colossians 4:6)
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To: BipolarBob

*snicker*


32 posted on 06/21/2006 4:11:53 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("The root of the state is in the family. The root of the family is in the person of its head.")
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To: lightman

Blasphemy.


33 posted on 06/21/2006 4:12:24 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: ichabod1
There is actually some theological basis for what she said, but it still sounds very strange. Jesus is both mother and father to us.

While Jesus can do whatever He wants, technically speaking He is neither mother *or* father. He's the Son of God (or God the Son).
34 posted on 06/21/2006 4:21:33 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: lightman

I am just shaking my head...

To the traditional Anglican FReepers out there, my prayers are with you.


35 posted on 06/21/2006 4:44:45 PM PDT by markomalley (Vivat Iesus!)
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To: ArrogantBustard

I taaaalllkkk to the buuunnnniiiees and they taaaaalllllkkk to meeeeeeeeeee....


36 posted on 06/21/2006 4:50:12 PM PDT by livius
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To: lightman

This is what St. Paul had in mind when he bade women be silent in church.


37 posted on 06/21/2006 5:16:10 PM PDT by Loyalist (Dissonance And Disrespect: http://dissonanceanddisrespect.blogspot.com)
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To: lightman

ARRGGGHHHH! Sometimes I wish God was still into the fire and brimstone thing. or maybe just a wee bit of a plague?

Between the New Yorkers not allowing a skating rink to play Christian music on a skate night and these churches becoming touchy-feely social clubs...think my head's gonna bust open.


38 posted on 06/21/2006 5:19:21 PM PDT by madison10
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To: ConservativeMind
How did the corruption in the Episcopal church ever get so deep?

They fired all their hellfire and damnation preachers.

Now they preach an inclusive message, where sin is nonexistent and God is a fairy.

39 posted on 06/21/2006 5:24:39 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (((172 * 3.141592653589793238462) / 180) * 10 = 30.0196631)
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To: Alex Murphy
...an Easter message delivered by an ELCA pastor focusing on butterflies ...

Outside our local ELCA church there is a cross with a large butterfly on it. A Monarch, I think.

40 posted on 06/21/2006 5:33:38 PM PDT by omega4412 (Multiculturalism kills. 9/11, Beslan, Madrid, London)
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To: ahadams2; Houston_Texans; impatient; weps4ret; kellynch; Crackhead Willie; meandog; gogeo; ...
Thanks to lightman for the ping.

Traditional Anglican ping, continued in memory of its founder Arlin Adams.

FReepmail sionnsar if you want on or off this moderately high-volume ping list (typically 3-9 pings/day).
This list is pinged by sionnsar, Huber and newheart.

Resource for Traditional Anglicans: http://trad-anglican.faithweb.com
More Anglican articles here.

Humor: The Anglican Blue (by Huber)

Speak the truth in love. Eph 4:15

41 posted on 06/21/2006 5:51:03 PM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† | Iran Azadi | SONY: 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0urs)
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To: sionnsar

COLUMBUS, OHIO (6/21/06)-While addressing a morning Eucharist at the 75th General Convention of the Episcopal Church, Presiding Bishop-elect Katherine Jefferts Schori declared, "Our mother Jesus gives birth to a new creation. And you and I are His children."

With Jefferts Schori as the leader-to-be of the Episcopal Chuch, it seems that the church will move beyond gender-inclusive language to transgender-inclusive language.

Yesterday however, the Episcopal Church's House of Bishops refused to even consider a resolution that would affirm the exclusive Lordship of Jesus Christ as "the only name by which any person may be saved." The Rev. Canon Eugene McDowell of the Diocese of North Carolina explained, "This type of language was used in 1920s and 1930s to alienate the type of people who were executed. It was called the Holocaust."

Perhaps Episcopalians would be more receptive of a resolution affirming the supreme transexuality of Jesus.


42 posted on 06/21/2006 5:53:08 PM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† | Iran Azadi | SONY: 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0urs)
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To: Alex Murphy
Believe it or not, I've heard worse IMO: an Easter message delivered by an ELCA pastor focusing on butterflies and flowers

Hmm, I've also heard an interesting ELCA sermon: the pastorette spoke for 40 minutes about the movie Pay it Forward. She worked herself into a fine fit of tears with nary a mention of God or Christ. It seems to be a pattern with them.

43 posted on 06/21/2006 5:56:31 PM PDT by jboot (Faith is not a work)
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To: ConservativeMind
How did the corruption in the Episcopal church ever get so deep?

Matthew 24:5

44 posted on 06/21/2006 6:00:30 PM PDT by Diego1618
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To: lightman
Yesterday however, the Episcopal Church's House of Bishops refused to even consider a resolution that would affirm the exclusive Lordship of Jesus Christ as "the only name by which any person may be saved." The Rev. Canon Eugene McDowell of the Diocese of North Carolina explained, "This type of language was used in 1920s and 1930s to alienate the type of people who were executed. It was called the Holocaust."

I am nearly speechless. The cardinal doctrine of the church is compared with Nazi propaganda! This creature Eugene McDowell is no Christian, and in his final habitation he may become far better acquainted with Nazis.

If I were so unlucky as to be an Episcopalian, I would literally drop everything and run from the church forever. My pity and prayers are with the faithful who remain.

45 posted on 06/21/2006 6:07:22 PM PDT by jboot (Faith is not a work)
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To: jboot; Alex Murphy
It seems to be a pattern with them.

It is indeed a pattern dutifully imparted by homeletics professors in the Seminaries; the pattern is called "transformational preaching". The technique is to use evocative language and narrative, particularly first-person, to draw the hearer into the story; but there is no real proclamation for the technique demands that the story end with "draw your own conclusions".

It is basically Rogersian therapy from the pulpit.

46 posted on 06/21/2006 6:15:45 PM PDT by lightman (The Office of the Keys should be exercised as some ministry needs to be exorcised.)
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To: lightman; aberaussie; Aeronaut; ahadams2; AlternateViewpoint; Archie Bunker on steroids; ...
Thanks lightman, for the heads-up!



Lutheran Ping

47 posted on 06/21/2006 6:25:08 PM PDT by TonyRo76 (American by birth. Patriot by choice. Christian by grace.)
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To: TonyRo76; lightman
Dear God, my FRiends! How did this denomination fall so far and so fast? This sort of nonsense seems to be happening more and more. Not sure if we just hear about more of it because of better news transmission or if I should skip ahead in my Bible reading to Revelations.

I will pray and work to keep the ELCA from following this path of apostasy. I know there are other FReepers who feel that the ELCA is beyond redemption, but I know I must at least try.
48 posted on 06/21/2006 7:51:36 PM PDT by RebelBanker (If you can't do something smart, do something right.)
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To: RebelBanker; TonyRo76
Keep the faith!

Tell the Story!

Sing the song!

Sing this hymn, which we shall use to begin the Liturgy this coming Lord's Day as we commemorate the 476th anniversary of the Presentation of the Augsburg Confession:

"Rise, Ye Children of Salvation"
by Justus Falckner, 1672-1723
Translated by Emma R. Bevan, 1827-1909

1. Rise, ye children of salvation,
All who cleave to Christ, the Head.
Wake, arise, O mighty nation,
Ere the Foe on Zion tread.
He draws nigh and would defy
All the hosts of God Most High.

2. Saints and heroes long before us
Firmly o this ground have stood;
See their banner waving o'er us,
Conquerors through the Savior's blood.
Ground we hold whereon of old
Fought the faithful and the bold.

3. Fighting, we shall be victorious
By the blood of Christ, our Lord;
On our foreheads, bright and glorious,
Shines the witness of His Word;
Spear and shield on battle-field,
His great name we cannot yield.

4. When His servants stand before Him,
Each receiving his reward;
When His saints in light adore Him,
Giving glory to the Lord,
"Victory!" our songs shall be
Like the thunder of the sea.

The Lutheran Hymnal:
Hymn #472
Text: Jude 3
Author: Justus Falckner, 1697, cento
Translated by: Emma R. Bevan, 1858
Titled: "Auf, ihr Christen, Christi Glieder"
Composer: Joachim Neander, 1680
Tune: "Neander"
49 posted on 06/21/2006 7:58:08 PM PDT by lightman (The Office of the Keys should be exercised as some ministry needs to be exorcised.)
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To: Kenny Bunkport

I think all the pretense is gone. Even they can't hide their absurd secular-humanism-leftism any longer, much less pretend it has anything to do with orthodox Christianity!

As Karl Marx (whom I'm sure they admire!) once said, they have - in their own inimitable way turned tragedy into farce!


50 posted on 06/21/2006 8:59:23 PM PDT by T.L.Sink (stopew)
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