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1 posted on 06/26/2006 11:48:57 AM PDT by FJ290
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I guess he doesn't watch Sister Act in his spare time.

Pop music is entertainment, not worship. I agree with the pope.


2 posted on 06/26/2006 11:50:25 AM PDT by sine_nomine (Marvel at the Senate's No Mexican Left Behind Bill (wit cloned from M. Steyn))
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Hymns, Harps, Flutes only ping.


3 posted on 06/26/2006 11:50:35 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory (No more rhyming, and I mean it! ..Anybody want a peanut.....)
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He ain't the only one.


4 posted on 06/26/2006 11:50:54 AM PDT by wordsofearnest (Bring Back Torre (There's new grass on the field))
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"Updating sacred music is possible, but this cannot happen unless it follows the tradition of Gregorian chants or sacred polyphony," the pontiff said on Sunday ...

That's polo ponies!


5 posted on 06/26/2006 11:52:47 AM PDT by HaveHadEnough
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The problem is the old "give 'em a yard, and they'll take an inch." Liturgical abuses were widespread in teh 70's & 80's with drum adn guitar solos.

The Mass is a sacred liturgy, and not a pop or rock concert.

If you want to have a music concert, do it after Mass.

6 posted on 06/26/2006 11:53:04 AM PDT by CWW (GOP 2008 Dream Ticket -- George Allen (Pres) and Mark Sanford (V.P.))
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I cannot understand why....


7 posted on 06/26/2006 11:53:13 AM PDT by Fighting Irish (Ever find yourself posting messages just to show off your taglines?)
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I LOVE this POPE!! I don't like these new age Masses at all.


9 posted on 06/26/2006 11:55:41 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kaboom"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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This is fairly major, really. Whence the "guitar," "folk," or other Mass?

It's going to be difficult to get rid of the trend, I think, although I'd visit more Catholic churches if they returned to traditional Masses.


12 posted on 06/26/2006 11:56:33 AM PDT by MineralMan (non-evangelical atheist)
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I'm one of the ones who likes the contemporary worship songs. They do speak to me and would hate to see them gone. Our parish does a good job, within a single Mass, of mixing various types of music, which I also appreciate


13 posted on 06/26/2006 11:57:10 AM PDT by rightthinkingwoman
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Pope Against Pop Music In MassM

I wish he would feel the same way about a pop-Cardinal in Los Angeles.

14 posted on 06/26/2006 11:57:26 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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I know I've said this in the past, but the music in church today is getting out of hand. At some masses we can have as many as 5 songs before the homily. At a church I used to attend in Houston, TX - the head choir woman would stand outside the doors before and after mass to great people/get an ego boast from people saying they liked the music.
16 posted on 06/26/2006 11:57:31 AM PDT by SengirV
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Stupid hippy guitar Mass - hurry up and die!

9:00 AM Mass, no music - church full.
10:30 AM hippy guitar Mass - nine people.
12:00 noon Mass, sung according to Missal - church bursting.

Translation: stupid hippy guitar Mass is an utter waste of time and parish resources.

18 posted on 06/26/2006 11:58:32 AM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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"New York, London, Paris, Munich – everybody talk about, mm, pop muzik

Talk about pop muzik. Talk about pop muzik.

Pop, pop, pop muzik! Pop, pop, pop muzik!"


19 posted on 06/26/2006 11:58:33 AM PDT by fhlh (Polls are for Strippers.)
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Don't want to leave you all out!

Whoooo Hoooooo! Three cheers for our good Pope!

23 posted on 06/26/2006 11:59:56 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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if you wanna sound evangelical, BE evangelical


27 posted on 06/26/2006 12:01:49 PM PDT by The Red Zone
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this is not gonna sit well with the Rock Band Christians.. LMAO!


28 posted on 06/26/2006 12:01:53 PM PDT by Cinnamon
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Having grown up participating in those guitar masses, I have to say I dont blame the Pope for saying something about this. However, I do think it rather silly to say no "new" music ever. I think what a lot of churches have moved away from is keeping to the Liturgy. Now all the music is the Christian Rock which doesnt have anythng but a Protestant focus and slant on things...whereas the guitar/folk choirs I helped lead were diligent in remaining true to the Liturgy and the theme of the Church seasons. We considered our music as backup to the priest, not as a set piece for entertainment and the priest was just a nice little formality to wrap it all up.

At one point or another, all those "old, traditional" songs were Brand New. I have come to appreciate the Older stuff now, but it is also fun for me to listen to the songs and try to pick out what time period they were from. Certain eras have prevalent styles and its because those songs reflected a newness of their time.

29 posted on 06/26/2006 12:02:20 PM PDT by Alkhin (http://awanderingconfluence.com/blog ~ Tributaries)
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"Updating sacred music is possible, but this cannot happen unless it follows the tradition of Gregorian chants or sacred polyphony," the pontiff said

Well of course!! I remember reading right there in my Bible the requirements for music to be either of the tradition of Gregorian chants or sacred polyphony

Benedict XVI is right, mass is a meeting with God and to meet God sacred music is better than the turmoil of electric guitars, hand clapping and the husstle and bustle of disorderly sounds."

Well yeah...no clapping that's right out.

But hey whatever floats your boat. I'm not much on some of the 'new' worship services myself. Not to this level though

30 posted on 06/26/2006 12:02:33 PM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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What about modern arrangements of tranditional music? Our church plays almost all its music on guitars, and asynthesizer with drums, horns and occassionally a bass. My son plays drums on occasssion and it has actually made him more interested in the church, especially since the church seems interested in his talents.

IT is interesting that the Pope likes Bach and Mozart--two musicians who shattered the molds when its came to the music of their respecitve times. Both were considered extremely radical.

33 posted on 06/26/2006 12:05:46 PM PDT by Military family member (GO Colts!!)
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The "guitar Mass" used to be the place to meet babes in the late 60s along with the "coffee house" in the church basement.


36 posted on 06/26/2006 12:06:47 PM PDT by Chi-townChief
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