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Welcome back, freeper Salvation! (Vanity)
June 26, 2006

Posted on 06/26/2006 5:46:27 PM PDT by NYer

Freeper, Salvation, has just returned from a whirlwind tour of christian sites in the East. While I can only speak for myself, I am sure there are others who would like to learn more about where she traveled, as well as her experiences. While getting herself re-aclamated to US time, let's all welcome Salvation back home and to the FreeRepublic Forum. We are all indebted to you, Salvation, for your daily Mass Reading posts and the lives of the saints.

Please post your messages to this thread and let's hope Salvation will post her exciting experience to the forum.

Welcome Home!


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1 posted on 06/26/2006 5:46:28 PM PDT by NYer
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To: american colleen; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; ...


2 posted on 06/26/2006 5:47:04 PM PDT by NYer (Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
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To: Salvation

Well, how was the harvest?


3 posted on 06/26/2006 5:52:57 PM PDT by AliVeritas ("One for all , all for kicking *ss and taking names" ...Scratch taking names.)
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To: Salvation

Welcome back!

Photos?

Stories?

Please?


4 posted on 06/26/2006 6:10:49 PM PDT by AlaninSA ("Beware the fury of a patient man." - John Dryden)
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To: NYer; Salvation
Bttt.

5.56mm

5 posted on 06/26/2006 6:17:48 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Salvation

Welcome Back!


6 posted on 06/26/2006 6:18:30 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: NYer

How nice of you to do this. I guess you knew how miserable I am here in Oregon. It was 98 Farenheit one day in Prague and we were all sweating to beat the band. I was expecting to come home to nice cool Oregon air, but let me compose something about my first day on the pilgrimage.


7 posted on 06/26/2006 6:20:29 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: AlaninSA

I don't have any photos -- only took along four disposable cameras and purchased two more. I will try to fill in my notes and describe, however.


8 posted on 06/26/2006 6:21:51 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: DBeers; M Kehoe; AlaninSA; AliVeritas; NYer; fatima; Coleus

Thanks for the greetings, everyone. And a big thank you to fatima and Coleuus for posting the daily readings while I was gone. Weren't they wonderful?


9 posted on 06/26/2006 6:24:25 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation; All
I was expecting to come home to nice cool Oregon air, but let me compose something about my first day on the pilgrimage.

Take your time ... we're not going anywhere :-)

10 posted on 06/26/2006 6:24:48 PM PDT by NYer (Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
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To: Salvation

Welcome back!


11 posted on 06/26/2006 6:27:29 PM PDT by netmilsmom (To attack one section of Christianity in this day and age, is to waste time.)
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To: NYer; Salvation
While I can only speak for myself....

I will certainly join in :) I would love to hear every last detail.

12 posted on 06/26/2006 6:34:33 PM PDT by Bahbah (Democrat Motto: Why not the worst)
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To: NYer; nickcarraway; sandyeggo; Lady In Blue; american colleen; ELS; Pyro7480; livius; ...

The first day was a travel day. I left Oregon at 6:10 am so that meant staying overnight in Portland, getting up around 3:00 am and to PDX by 4:00 to go through the international flight passporot stuff, etc.

There were six of us who left at that time and the others were spaced out during the day.

We arrived in Frankfurt via United at 6:07 pm and then took a local flight with Lufthansa to Prague. The tour guide was not there at the time we arrived so we took a local shuttle to our hotel. Fantastic driver took us on a scenic tour of Prague, crossing the median two times to avoid the traffic! What a riot! Finally got to our hotel at 12:30 pm their time. Long day -----no?

Others arrived around 3:00 pm., including our priest, Father Gary, and the final contingent arrived around 8:30 pm.

Dinner was on our own so we ate at the small cafe at the hotel -- all the water in the hotels was OK, but I was so apprehensive that I got water for the dispensing machine for one day -- three coins -- about 75 cents.

Our local tour coordinator's husband came down with the flu so they couldn't leave with us at 9:00 am for the walking tour of Prague.

(To be continued)


13 posted on 06/26/2006 6:41:02 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: netmilsmom

Thanks, mom!


14 posted on 06/26/2006 6:42:16 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation

Welcome home!

Please tell all...


15 posted on 06/26/2006 6:42:53 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher (The Great Ronald Reagan & John Paul II - Heaven's Dream Team!)
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To: Bahbah

I'm going downstairs to find my information, card pack, etc. about Prague. Back in a half hour or so to cover the first day.


16 posted on 06/26/2006 6:43:23 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation

Is there an emoticon for "I'm all ears"?

Tell it!


17 posted on 06/26/2006 6:47:14 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
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To: Aussie Dasher

I think I'll do one or two days each day, depending on the length of the description.

Thanks for the welcome!


18 posted on 06/26/2006 6:48:04 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation

Welcome home! I look forward to reading up on your travels.


19 posted on 06/26/2006 6:49:48 PM PDT by BykrBayb ("We will not be silent. We are your bad conscience. The White Rose will give you no rest." Ţ)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

all ears?

Thanks for the warm greeting.


20 posted on 06/26/2006 6:50:09 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: BykrBayb

Thanks. I'll be back with more in about a half hour.


21 posted on 06/26/2006 6:51:20 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation

Looking forward to it!


22 posted on 06/26/2006 7:06:14 PM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.)
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To: BykrBayb; Miss Marple

Thanks for the welcome!


23 posted on 06/26/2006 7:09:54 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation

Yes, welcome back! I didn't know you were gone because I haven't been reading so much here lately but check the board about once a day. Sounds like a wonderful adventure!


24 posted on 06/26/2006 7:24:53 PM PDT by Aliska
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To: Salvation
And a big thank you to fatima and Coleuus for posting the daily readings while I was gone.

Yes, they did a very fine job for you. Welcome back. Looking forward to hearing about your travels!

25 posted on 06/26/2006 7:27:24 PM PDT by Gerish (Feed your faith and your doubts will starve to death.)
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To: NYer

Welcome back, Salvation! I'm looking forward to reading your posts about your trip.


26 posted on 06/26/2006 7:40:16 PM PDT by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: Salvation

Kudos to Fatima and Coleus for posting the daily readings. Many thanks!


27 posted on 06/26/2006 7:41:12 PM PDT by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: Salvation; fatima

Welcome back, and I do appreciate the continuity of the daily readings and meditations. Well done, all!


28 posted on 06/26/2006 7:46:10 PM PDT by lightman (The Office of the Keys should be exercised as some ministry needs to be exorcised.)
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To: All

Second day, Wednesday, June 14th, Prauge

We started at 9:00 am with a bus tour of the city and our fast-moving, fast-talking guide, Ava. Some people didn't like her, but she was full of historical information but I thought she was great. This tour is really worth the money, so take it some day!

We visited Hradcany Castle first thing. (1000 years old) on the upper level of Prague, (I think!). For some reason the Czech Republic was not bombed during World War II. I am thinking that it was a neutral country. Beautiful architecture, lots of gold, everything from the ballroom to the bedroom of the kings and queens, the guesthouse where visiting dignataries could stay. (Seems like Clinton had stayed there.) I tried to pace myself, but Ava very often started her lecture at a location before I got there! We waited about 20 minutes to watch the changing of the guard. They only stay for one hour and are expected to stand statue-still for one hour. Ugh!

We then descended a walkway with 387 steps down to the Little Quarter. I just kept telling myself -- the next flight of steps -- about 10-13 in each flight. But the treat at the bottom was worth it! Read on.

(To be continued.)


29 posted on 06/26/2006 7:52:11 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: lightman; Ciexyz; Gerish; Aliska

Thanks for the welcome. Stay tuned for the big attraction (for me) in Prague, the church that houses the Infant of Prague.


30 posted on 06/26/2006 7:54:33 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: All

A little way from the steps was the Mala Strana, a monastery kept up by Capuchin monks. A model of Loreto was added later. Makes me want to go there now!

This walkway followed a square around a courtyard -- we were instructed to stay off the grass and to take no photos. The walkway was covered with a scalloped celing depicting the life of the Blessed Virgin Mary -- everything from her intials in Czech to the mysteries of the Rosary. They were beautiful. Interesting phenoenon there and everywhere else we went -- the carved confessionals that were sitting out in the open. There must have been two on each side of the square so God and everyone could see if you were going to Confession!

The four churches on the square are the chapels of St. Anne, St. Joseph, King Wenceslaus and I believe St. Michael the Archangel. We were not able to enter these individual churches, but there were displays outside each: huge gold and very ornate monstrances--several with embedded jewels, chalices, vestments, etc. -- just a fabulous history of the church in Czech Republic. We have no idea in the United States what beauty there can be in a monstrance. They were stunning!

We then continued to the Church of St. Vitus next door with fantastic stained glass windows. The tomb of the artist who did the windows as well as the tomb of St. Wenseslaus and his son were also there. Other tombs included those of kings and queens -- all so beautiful -- everything from carved marble to carved wood. These churches all had lots of gold leaf trim. Huges altars beyond description. Decorations in back of the main altar were different but still majestic.


31 posted on 06/26/2006 8:12:29 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation

sounds great - hope you can post some pictures.


32 posted on 06/26/2006 8:25:03 PM PDT by Nihil Obstat
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To: All

Link to picture of the Infant of Prague, prayer, and a pretty good history/explanation. http://www.medjugorjeusa.org/infant.htm

More history -- ignore the commercial bookstore! LOL! -- http://www.catholicstore.com/index.asp?PageAction=Custom&ID=55

We then entered the church that houses the Infant of Prague, The Church of Our Lady Victorious. Link to four pages about Our Lady Victorious and the Infant of Prague. http://www.infantjesus.com/history2.htm

Father Gary said Mass here in the middle of the day. It was absolutely astounding and miraculous, in my opinion, everywhere we went for Mass they seemed to be ready and waiting for us -- and we usually had Mass within 10 minutes. Sometimes Father Gary wore the local vestments; othetimes he donned the vestments from his own Mass kit.

He asked me to do the readings for the Mass -- they are usually read at Christmas time. From Isaiah describing the birth of the God-Hero, Wonder-Counselor, etc. and the Gospel was about finding the Child Jesus in the temple when he was twelve or thirteen and "about His Father's business." What an honor to read these readings! When I got back to my seat I know I had tears in my eyes and even right now I have a lump in my throat. Father Gary was absolutely beaming at the end of the Mass. Can you imagine saying Mass in such a magnificent church?

After the Mass we were all invited to go over to the altar where the Infant of Prague is housed. It was so humbling to stand or kneel in front of this image of the Child Jesus and pray the simple prayer -- see one of the links above.

Father Gary then asked me to distribute a 8 1/2 x 11 copy of the small statue to all in our group. Again two open confessionals in the back of the church.

We went on from there to view the magnificent Charles Bridge and its many statues. I only wish they could clean them and wipe the old blackened images clean so that one could note the details more easily. Link for a few pictures: http://www.pragueexperience.com/places.asp?PlaceID=598

We then went into the Old Town and broke into smaller groups since our guide, Ava, left us. I learned my lesson about ordering smoked salmon with green salad! The salmon was RAW! Maybe they whiffed it through the smoker two times. LOL! I had eaten sushi before so I said a prayer asking to be protected and ate most of it!

A friend and I continued on a slower pace and visited the church of St. Francis of Asissi in old town. We were tired and so head for the Bridge of Angels where our bus was to pick us up.

Found out that most of restrooms/water closets are on the lower level of buildings and very often one must pay to use. I used the one at the cafe so didn't need the one where my friend stopped.

Father Gary and some others went down to the Astronomical clock and the Jewish part of Prague. They also went on an afternoon boat ride but had to pay $16 each for a drink!

We all returned to our Hotel -- Hotel Duo Praha. Praha is how the Czechs say Prague.


Good night everyone. See you again tomorrow.


33 posted on 06/26/2006 9:24:24 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Nihil Obstat

Please check the links for pictures as I only took along four throwaway cameras. A digital camera will be one of my purchases however, because they could take pictures inside without a flash using the night view.


34 posted on 06/26/2006 9:28:01 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation

Please put me on your ping list for the trip narratives. Been 1973 since I was there.


35 posted on 06/27/2006 4:35:04 AM PDT by Quix (PRAY AND WORK WHILE THERE'S DAY! Many very dark nights are looming. Thankfully, God is still God!)
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To: Salvation

Glad you made it back!


36 posted on 06/27/2006 4:35:45 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("Wallow in poverty, you whining gerbil! They're taking everyone's money!" ~dljordan)
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To: Salvation

Welcome back! I hope it was fascinating.


37 posted on 06/27/2006 4:36:50 AM PDT by Allegra (I'm Shizophrenic. No, I'm Not. Yes, I Am. No, I'm NOT. Are TOO. Am NOT.)
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To: Salvation

Welcome Home!


38 posted on 06/27/2006 4:47:07 AM PDT by NewCenturions
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To: Quix

Please add to this. Prague is a beautiful city, but in my estimation, Budapest topped it. But then we took a sunset river boat in Budapest. It was absolutely enchanting!


39 posted on 06/27/2006 6:11:00 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: NewCenturions; Allegra

It WAS fascinating. Thanks for the welcome!


40 posted on 06/27/2006 6:11:57 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation
Welcome back!

Reading with great interest Posts #13, 29, 31, 33.

41 posted on 06/27/2006 6:16:40 AM PDT by DoctorMichael (A wall first. A wall now.)
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To: Salvation
So that's where you were, in the land of my grandparents!

Oh, this is going to be a wonderful read! :D

42 posted on 06/27/2006 9:33:58 AM PDT by Boomer Geezer
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To: Salvation

Thank you so much for your recounting of your trip. I look forward to more. Someday, God willing, I will be able to visit those places.


43 posted on 06/27/2006 9:58:21 AM PDT by ELS (Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
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To: Salvation

Thanks for the travel report, sounds like you had a great (and blessed) journey!


44 posted on 06/27/2006 10:04:23 AM PDT by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: Salvation

Glad you had a great vacation and glad you are home safe and sound.

"And a big thank you to fatima and Coleus"

Applause!


45 posted on 06/27/2006 5:17:54 PM PDT by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
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To: DoctorMichael

Thanks for posting the picture, Doctor Michael. It was just too hot and I was still too tired last night.


46 posted on 06/27/2006 7:35:54 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Boomer Geezer

Where was that? Czech Republic? We went to Poland, Hungary and Austria too.


47 posted on 06/27/2006 7:36:57 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: ELS

You're welcome. I'm not so hot and tired and bothered tonight -- it's cooler in Oregon today so will add to the travelogue.

We also did a lot of walking, but I hear that Rome has even more walking. Hope you can make it on a pilgrimage someday. It was wonderful!


48 posted on 06/27/2006 7:38:48 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Domestic Church

I'll add to that by saying, "Amen"!


49 posted on 06/27/2006 7:39:34 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation

Were you in Budapest when President Bush was there?


50 posted on 06/27/2006 7:39:41 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If you wish to go to extremes, let it be in... patience, humility, & charity." -St. Philip Neri)
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