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Skip to comments.NEW ITALIAN CATHEDRAL TO PADRE PIO DESIGNED AS FREEMASONIC TEMPLE
Posted on 07/19/2006 10:40:38 AM PDT by Youngstown
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Actually, for a "secret" society, it IS pretty OPEN! You can probably find out, right now, who present Masons are. And there are many books, which list rafts of names, of present and past Masons in and out of government. Heck, go read old posts of mine, here and you'll get cross-eyed, from reading the 100s of names I've posted, as to is and has been a Mason. ;^)
The ignorance and the prejudice in here is amazing.
PHQ, Bethel #67, 1968
I have refrained from posting lots and lots of FACTS about all of the truly horrible things Catholics have done to others. Would you like me to start in on that?
You have NO desire to discuss this article, do you? Just trash Masons....right?
You may "like it", but that still does NOT make it true, nor meritorious or valid.
Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.
I always thought the whole thinmg about secret societies was funny. In the US Catholic bishops were all hot and bothered about Catholics joining the Masons, so in the 1880s they founded the Knight of Columbus (not a secret society, but has a secret intitiation) Masons aren't exactly a secret society, but initiation to certain degrees are secret.
He later resigned from the American Association for the Advancement of Science for the same reason.
"The whole thing was rotten!" he said.
I have my dad's old copy of his DeMolay bible from when he was a teenager.
Btw, I was baptized and joined the Church in '99.
Which is why I keep posting history lessons; though that side ignores them completely; unfortunately.
Btw, I was baptized and joined the Church in '99.
Contrary to the beliefs of some, there is nothing wrong with Masons.
If fact, there is much that is RIGHT with Masons.
You go, blackie! ;o)
"I guess you were right...that history lesson had to be rewritten. :-)"
I had a feeling it would still be fresh in your mind. ;o)
Thank you for your lesson.
"ills of freemasonry"
What an interesting statement.
If becoming a Mason is grounds for excommunication, what is the punishment for those who are/were DeMolays?
I've known quite a few who were DeMolays, but are still members of the church.
"As a Freemason I respect the Catholic Church.
Our enemies are the Isalamist killers, and if Chistians don't work very hard together, they will ultimately wipe us out."
Bumping both of your statements!
While the Masons are to be commended on their charitable works, I disagree that there is "nothing" wrong with their organization.
From Scripture Catholic by John Salza:
Freemasonry is incompatible with Christianity because it promotes indifferentism. Indifferentism is the heretical belief that all religions are equally legitimate attempts to explain the truth about God which, but for the truth of His existence, are unexplainable. Such a view makes all truths relative and holds that God can be equally pleased with truth and error. Because Christians believe that God has definitively revealed Himself in the person of Jesus Christ, and desires that all men come to the knowledge of this truth, indifferentism is incompatible with Christian faith. Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father, but by me." (John 14:6).
Freemasonry's teachings and practices also result in syncretism which is the blending of different religious beliefs into a unified whole. This is evidenced most especially by Masonry's religious rituals which gather men of all faiths around a common altar, and place all religious writings along side the Bible on the Masonic altar. This is also demonstrated by the Lodge's prayers and its unique names and symbols for God and heaven. Syncretism is the logical consequence of indifferentism.
The Lodge's practice of requiring its members to swear immoral oaths is also incompatible with Christianity. These oaths require a Christian to swear on the Holy Bible that he will uphold a code of moral conduct that prefers Masons over non-Masons, and to preserve secret passwords and handshakes. Such oaths are gravely immoral because their subject matter is trivial or does not give rise to the necessity of an oath. These oaths are also sworn under symbolic, blood-curdling penalties of physical torture and death called self-curses (e.g., having my throat cut across, and my tongue torn out by its roots). These penalties show a lack of respect for God and amount to blasphemy which is a serious sin.
I have read a lot about Padre Pio, I doubt he would like this church at all. What is the matter with them? That cross is stupid. Padre Pio would want Jesus on it.
She's right about "pings."
A ping is to call someone's attention to the thread.
Anyone who reads your posts is allowed to respond.
"Then why is it that when I go into my personal account the replies that are sent to me are listed under the title "Pings?"
When you have something new, it shows up as "New Posts To You."
Mine is a nice, pretty, bright red. ;o)
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