Posted on 07/23/2006 6:39:58 PM PDT by fruitarian108
What you have done to these the least of My brethren you have done unto Me.
CATHOLIC VEGETARIAN SAINTS
St Francis of Assisi, St Clare, stigmatist St Therese Neumann, St. Martin de Porres, St John Chrysostom, St Anthony of Padua who preached to fishes when humans would not listen.. St Nicholas of Tolentino* believed they were following the example of Jesus in not eating His animals. Trappists, Cistercians, Benedictines, Franciscans all have had a tradition of vegetarian diet, to which many still adhere. The pretzel was says George Cornell former AP religion writer a Lenten bread, symbolizing arms folded in prayer.. Lentils were named as such because they were a Lenten vegetarian alternative to animal flesh. Meatless Fridays were the last vestige of early Christian abstinence from meat in following Christ's example. A papal bull once excommunicated anyone who attended a bullfight because the barbaric cruelty in them. This was later amended to excommunicate only priests who blessed bullfighting. BIBLICAL ORIGINS Genesis 1: 29, Isaiah 65, Daniel 1 Exodus 26: 34 are some of the thousands of quotes in the Bible on vegetarian diet. The command to feed the hungry, given by Jesus in His Sermon on the Mount, implies vegetarianism since the flesh of animals yields 100 to 1000 lbs an acre, dairy products around 10,000 lbs. an acre, some vegetables, 81,000 lbs. an acre, and fruits from centenarian fruit trees 450,000 or more lbs. an acre. Therefore Genesis fruit trees yield 450 times what slaughterhouses yield. Daniel O'Steen, of National Right To Life, felt he must be consistent in his prolife stance and so many years ago became a vegetarian. Clare Obis, mother of 6 boys, created a successful media campaign when Mike Royko refused to allow her vegetarian gluten ribs in his cooking contest.
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Ping of possible interest
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The miracle of the loaves and tofu. < /sarc >
Jesus spent a lot of time with fishermen.
There were a lot of shepherds in the bible. Sheep and goats we not exactly pets.
excellent article...thanks for the ping!
Yea but the bull was acting in his own self interest. Now if a papal gazelle excommunicated someone for attending a bullfight-that would be news.
L
I have no problem with someone wanting to be vegetarian. But if we are not suppose to eat animals why did God make them taste like meat?
Me?
I'll eat fish and good, red meat. If it's good enough for Jesus Christ, true God and true Man, I'm not about to argue with Him.
ROFL!!!!
Some Catholics should read the bible
Genesis 9:3
Every creature that is alive shall be yours to eat; I give them all to you as I did the green plants.
Nice try, troll. It's your first post and you post tripe. Hey, have you ever eaten tripe? It's meat and tastes delicious.
I guess it would work if God figured you'd always have beans and rice available for your meals. You have to have complete amino acids; and you can get them EITHER through animal protein OR through eating BOTH beans and rice TOGETHER...period.
Meaningless statistics. Meat production depends on the specie of animals and the method of raising it. Many times hoofstock is raised on land that is not suited to vegetable production. So that "useless" land now produces food.
And since when did Jesus become a vegetarian?! He ate fish even after he rose. And the Passover usually served lamb!
If people stop eating animals, animals are still going to eat animals. Or is some eco-nazi going to convince them to be vegetarians too?
Chapter 10
A voice said to him, "Get up, Peter. Slaughter and eat."
But Peter said, "Certainly not, sir. For never have I eaten anything profane and unclean."
The voice spoke to him again, a second time, "What God has made clean, you are not to call profane."
I guess we could also turn to Jesus saying it is not what goes into you that makes you unclean but what comes out of you.
Hmmm. Maybe these Catholics are "Catholics". Sort of like John Kerry is Catholic.
Or maybe in that great American Christian tradition they have beguiled themselves into thinking they have received "new light".
Sort of like Ted Kennedy is Catholic.
Why should I be more impressed by what "Some Catholics" believe than what "Some Episcopalians", "Some Seventh-Day Adventists", "Some Mormons", or "Some Raelians" believe?
And since your excerpt contains at least one factual inaccuracy (etymology of "lentil"), there's no point in clicking through to read the rest. I'm certainly not tempted to learn more about gluten ribs.
All Catholics should read the bible
>>>>Church tradition that started in order to help fishermen. Way back centuries ago in Italy, fish fell out of favor as a dietary staple. Some pope or cardinal made fish an exemption for Fridays.
Bzzt. No. Ever read the Diache? It was written around the year 80 AD. The earliest Christians fasted on Wednesdays and Fridays. The Friday fast is a continuation from the earliest days of the Christianity. Friday is still a day of penance in the Church even now. It's not an order to eat fish, or that eating fish "fell out of favor". That is a silly idea.
The Didache in English - http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/didache-lake.html
Silly or not, a very educated priest told me that story. I have no reason to doubt him.
you have to watch out for the very educated priests. Give me a priest like Saint John Vianney instead.
http://www.domestic-church.com/CONTENT.DCC/19980701/SAINTS/VIANNEY.HTM
Honestly, It been years since I've read up on church doctrine. I used to read quite a bit, but the internet came along. Time permitting I'll try to catch up.
Kosher bump.
fruitarian108
Since Jul 24, 2006
The funny thing is, I don't think a single one of those saints mentioned were vegatarians in order to not kill animals. They avoided the limited offerings of meat, monastary living, vow of poverty and all that, in order to deny themselves and offer it up. I seriously doubt it was any sort of political statement.
However, I am sure they all would have had something to say about the slaughter of humans on a daily basis.
Luke 5:4-10, the PETA Bible (red letter edition)
4: When He had finished speaking, He said to Simon, "Put out into the deep water and let down your nets for a catch."
5: Simon answered and said, "Master, we worked hard all night and caught nothing, but I will do as You say and let down the nets."
6: When they had done this, they enclosed a great quantity of fish, and their nets began to break;
7: so they signaled to their partners in the other boat for them to come and help them. And they came and filled both of the boats, so that they began to sink.
8: But when Simon Peter saw that, he fell down at Jesus' feet, saying, "Go away from me Lord, for I am a sinful man!"
9: For amazement had seized him and all his companions because of the catch of fish which they had taken;
10: and so also were James and John, sons of Zebedee, who were partners with Simon. And Jesus said to Simon, "Do not fear. I give you a new commandment: put all those fish back in the ocean once the crowd's gone. From now on boys, we're eating beets."
His favorite meal is rare roast beef.
ROFLOL! Hysterical!
All Catholics should read the bible >>
they do.
If you are referring to Peter's vision, Peter himself
said the vision meant that he should not force kosher
diet on Christians. However he and most early Christians
were vegetarian, as was Jesus.
christianveg.com
all-creatures.org
http://groups.msn.com/catholicveg
Jesus spent a lot of time with fishermen, and removed
them from their occupation of smothering and suffocating
the innocent creatures the consumption of whom causes
stomach cancer, heart disease, choking etc.
http://www.christianveg.com
Fish on Friday was the final vestige of early Christian
vegetarianism in following Christ's example.
Dear L,
To God all the creatures He created are sacred.
He drove the moneychanging butchers out of the temple.
The Essene Gospel of Peace is one of many texts indicating
that Jesus was a member of that vegetarian Galileean group.
If you heard the screams of the slaughterhouse, perhaps
you would understand.
A cannibal might say
"If God did not want us to eat humans why did He make
them taste like meat?"
Meat is more addictive than coffee, since the preurine
in animal cells is trioxypurine, stronger than caffein
which is dioxypurine.
If you miss meat buy a veggieburger and whiz on it.
Genesis: 1: 29
Behold I have given you herbyielding seed. To you it
shall be for food.
God designed a fruitarian Garden of Eden in which
what plants and trees and vines and bushes dropped in our
laps and at our feet was
what we were to eat.
Please acquaint yourself with what John Wesley, General Booth of the
Salvation Army, St Francis, Ellen White of the Seventh
Day Adventists said about their following Christ's example
in not eating flesh.
http://groups.msn.com/christianveg
Scroll down left side for General Booth text
Humor is an objective response to the suffering of others.
Unlike you I do not accept that the political appointee
traslators of the Bible given their positions by
the bisexual King James necessarily translated
Jesus' Aramaic or Paul's Greek correctly.
One translation is that Jesus said 'ye are whited
sepulchres'. The Greek translation of Jesus' Aramaic
is sarcophagi... which means literally sarx flesh phagi
eater. Jesus said "Ye are flesheaters" and
metaphorically that anyone who eats the corpse of an animal becomes
a sarcophagus or portable cemetery of that animal
Unlike you I do not accept that the political appointee
traslators of the Bible given their positions by
the bisexual King James necessarily translated
Jesus' Aramaic or Paul's Greek correctly.
One translation is that Jesus said 'ye are whited
sepulchres'. The Greek translation of Jesus' Aramaic
is sarcophagi... which means literally sarx flesh phagi
eater. Jesus said "Ye are flesheaters" and
metaphorically that anyone who eats the corpse of an animal becomes
a sarcophagus or portable cemetery of that animal
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