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How do I respond to my friend who sent me the following???? PLease help.

Posted on 08/10/2006 3:47:36 PM PDT by ruthles

http://www.antiochian.org/water-of-cana

THE WATER OF CANA IS TURNED INTO BLOOD By His Eminence Metropolitan PHILIP Primate, Antiochian Orthodox Christian Archdiocese of North America July 31, 2006

Cana (modern spelling is �Qana�) is a little village in South Lebanon which was blessed by the presence of our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ, his Holy Mother and his disciples. Cana is the Village where Christ performed his first miracle by changing the water into wine at the marriage feast. (John 2: 1-11). Thus, Cana is deeply rooted in our Christian history.

Unfortunately, in modern times and due to the conflict between Israel and Arab nations, including Lebanon, Cana has been the victim of Israeli aggression twice: once in April 1996, when an Israeli rocket killed 105 Lebanese men, women and children. And second, on Sunday morning, July 30, 2006, when an Israeli rocket killed 60 people, including 37 children. This indiscriminate killing is against the Geneva Convention, the United Nations Charter and all laws of civilized nations.

This savage war is between Israel and Hezbollah. Lebanon has no air force, no navy and no large military force. As a matter of fact, the Lebanese army is not involved in this war at all. This war, then, is between Israel and Hezbollah. Why is Israel bombing Lebanese cities, villages, bridges, roads and killing innocent men, women and children � in the south and north, east and west of Lebanon? According to UN statistics, more than 800 civilians have been killed, many of them children, and more then 800,000 Lebanese have been made refugees in their own country. Israel knows very well where Hezbollah is. Why doesn�t Israel fight Hezbollah on its own turf? Why is Israel bombing civilian cars, motorcycles and pickup trucks carrying food for hungry people and medical supplies for the wounded? Lebanon is a poor country; the devastated infrastructure will cost billions of dollars to rebuild.

We deplore the killing and destruction on both sides. We know that Hezbollah has some weapons which are causing some unfortunate killing and destruction in Israel. But Hezbollah does not have American weapons such as F-16s, F-15s, Apaches and smart bombs, etc��

When I saw the Lebanese Red Cross retrieving the tender dead bodies of little children from underneath the rubble and I looked at their innocent faces and iconic eyes, I wept. I was indeed ashamed to see the extent of the cruelty and barbarism of our world. This morning, when the Lebanese Broadcasting Company showed pictures of the city of B�int-Jbeil which was completely leveled by the Israeli air force, I was reminded of the destruction of Stalingrad and Berlin during the Second World War. We and the whole world, with the exception of the United States, Great Britain, and Israel, are calling for an immediate cease fire. If we allow the law of the jungle to prevail, and if we allow our moral principles to be trodden on by barbarian feet, what will be left of our civilization?

The behavior of Mr. Ehud Olmert in this war reminds me of the behavior of his ancestor of old, Joshua, recorded in the Book of Joshua 6:21. �And they (Joshua�s army) destroyed all that was in the city (Jericho) both man and woman, both young and old, and ox, and sheep and ass with the edge of the sword.� Thanks to Mr. Olmert, nothing is left in B�int-Jbeil except some starving dogs feeding on corpses.


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I told her that Israel has fought a sanitized war, and that they forewarn the Lebanese when and where they will strike, and that the Lebanese allowed Hezbollah to build villages on top of their weapons sites, knowing that Israel would strike them, and that they could then cry bloody murder. Any other comments???
1 posted on 08/10/2006 3:47:38 PM PDT by ruthles
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To: ruthles
Well, if you were a Dem, you could "embrace multiculturalism" and behead them.

But I'm afraid I don't have anything useful to contribute.

2 posted on 08/10/2006 3:49:22 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: ruthles
The killings at Qana (28 killed, not 60) seem highly suspect, especially given the macabre "parade of corpses" that seemed to take place on that Sunday morning.

Others more knowledgeable will bring you up to speed, but your friend has swallowed the media portrayal of this incident whole.

3 posted on 08/10/2006 3:50:28 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: ruthles

There is a lot of opinion that this is not Cana, of the first miracle. See Wikipedia entry for Cana.


4 posted on 08/10/2006 3:52:05 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: ruthles
Have your friend take a gander at this film....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1681411/posts

5 posted on 08/10/2006 3:52:28 PM PDT by BossLady (SKYAGRA - Kim Jong Il's answer to ejectile dysfunction......)
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To: ruthles

It sounds as though you're doing pretty well, actually. Are you Catholic?


6 posted on 08/10/2006 3:53:26 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: ruthles

By the way, most scholars locate Cana of New Testament near Nazareth, in Israel, not with the Cana in Lebanon.


7 posted on 08/10/2006 3:53:28 PM PDT by avital2
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To: ruthles
And second, on Sunday morning, July 30, 2006, when an Israeli rocket killed 60 people, including 37 children.

This body count has been refuted by even anti-Israeli sources (Human Rights Watch).

The reality of the situation is that Hezzbollah chooses to wage war from civilian areas in order to push up the civilian casualties and force an early end to fighting.

If the Israeli military refused to target Hezzbollah for this reason then the terrorists would be able to fire from these "havens" with impunity.

Israel's right to self defense cannot be argued and Israel must try to stop the rocket attacks on their people.

8 posted on 08/10/2006 3:54:34 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: ruthles

First I would establish whether you are discussing how wars are or should be fought, or are you only being forced to defend the fact that Jews are presently engaged in war.

Is this guy just using this to attack the Jewish action or is he truly interested in the barbarity of war.

People will use a lot of different paths to keep making their true bottom line attack.


9 posted on 08/10/2006 3:55:34 PM PDT by ansel12 (Life is exquisite... of great beauty, keenly felt.)
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To: ruthles
yes tell her the greeks are socialist who have not supported the US in years and are for the most part anti semitic. we just don't care what they think.

BTW i have greek cousins, cute but stupid.

10 posted on 08/10/2006 3:55:39 PM PDT by TWfromTEXAS
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To: ruthles
One thing: No lies or is it "You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor."

The so called civilian deaths that the press and the Islamic terrorist are espousing, in my humble opinion, are just lies or they are false witness against Israel.

So you should ask why she is worried about the so called civilians who (may not be civilians)or are put in harms way by the Islamic terrorist and not the civilians in Israel who are deliberately targeted by the Islamic terrorist and have been blown up for the past several years by homicide bombers and rockets.
11 posted on 08/10/2006 3:57:21 PM PDT by YOUGOTIT
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To: ruthles
What you have there is a class A example of 'Dhimmitude' !
12 posted on 08/10/2006 3:57:24 PM PDT by Reily
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To: ruthles
Israel will return it to its pristine 2 millennium old roots, a featureless landscape, removing all the 'modern' buildings that have since cluttered the holy spot.
13 posted on 08/10/2006 3:57:27 PM PDT by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: ruthles
Cana is not in South Lebanon, It is in North Israel, a couple of hill's walk from Nazareth, where Christ lived with his family. They walked to that wedding that day, you know. Undoubtedly Cana has been struck by rockets but fired by hezbollah. Many of the residents of Cana are Israeli arabs. I have been there and have a bottle of "Cana wedding wine" (at least the arab who sold it to me assured me it was :-)

So the first thing I would do for your friend is to educate him on geography. Then, history.
14 posted on 08/10/2006 3:57:32 PM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: ruthles

So because Cana is mentioned in the Bible that somehow absolves the modern residence of their crimes of harboring and aiding terrorists?


15 posted on 08/10/2006 3:59:00 PM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: ruthles

Joel 3:

18 In that day
the mountains will drip with sweet wine,
and the hills will flow with milk.
All the streams of Judah will flow with water,
and a spring will issue from the Lord's house,
watering the Valley of Acacias. 19 Egypt will become desolate,
and Edom a desert wasteland,
because of the violence [done] to the people of Judah
in whose land they shed innocent blood. 20 But Judah will be inhabited forever,
and Jerusalem from generation to generation. 21 I will pardon their bloodguilt,
[which] I have not pardoned,
for the Lord dwells in Zion.


16 posted on 08/10/2006 3:59:29 PM PDT by Taxbilly
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To: ruthles
Why is Israel bombing Lebanese cities, villages, bridges, roads and killing innocent men, women and children in the south and north, east and west of Lebanon?

Why did you welcome Hezbollah to your roads, your bridges, your cities and villages. Your friendship has cost you all of those things! I ask you.....why do you blame Israel for what you have done to your cities, villages, bridges, roads, innocent men, women and children in the south and north, east and west.

17 posted on 08/10/2006 4:01:09 PM PDT by badpacifist (Democrats......deers caught in the headlights of terrorism.)
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To: ruthles

Wrong "Cana"


18 posted on 08/10/2006 4:01:14 PM PDT by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: ruthles
Any Lebanese Christian would be well familiar with the atrocities perpetrated on them in the past by their own mulism residents and would probably not carry this tone. I am surprised by it. Lebanon used to be a Christian country till the muslims started moving in with their multiple wives and out bred them.
19 posted on 08/10/2006 4:01:43 PM PDT by auntyfemenist (Card carrying conservative, William F. Buckley fan.)
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To: ruthles

Tell her not to bother you for help when the muzzies are about to slit her throat. If she is really Christian, she should know you don't make deals with the Devil, and expect to survive.
Cowardice is no excuse!


20 posted on 08/10/2006 4:01:47 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (LET ME DIE ON MY FEET, IN MY SWAMP)
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To: ruthles

>>I told her...<<

Right there is your problem. It's a she.

I don’t argue politics and religion with women. The rules are never in your favor.

I just smile and nod. I may say something like, “that is a very interesting position”.


21 posted on 08/10/2006 4:02:46 PM PDT by RobRoy (Islam is more dangerous to the world now that Naziism was in 1937.)
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To: ruthles
What follows is something you should NOT take up with your correspondent.

We know that Hezbollah has some weapons which are causing some
unfortunate killing and destruction in Israel.


By all means, let's give Hezbollah more years of peace and quiet
to stockpile more anti-personnel missles and occassionally snatch
Israeli soldiers without provocation.

After all, when Hezbollah rains down HUNDREDS, nay, THOUSANDS of
huge anti-personnel missles intended to indiscriminatley
maim and kill via thousands of pieces of shrapnel per warhead...
it's just "unfortunate".

Since Hezbollah can't aim a lot of their missles, I'm sure they
never intended to kill anyone.

We should really give them time to get missles that they can use
to more accurately target those pesky Isrealis and drive them into the sea.

(forgive my rant; I tried to tone it down)
22 posted on 08/10/2006 4:05:33 PM PDT by VOA
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To: ruthles
This savage war is between Israel and Hezbollah. Lebanon has no air force, no navy and no large military force. As a matter of fact, the Lebanese army is not involved in this war at all. This war, then, is between Israel and Hezbollah.

Oh yes. This war between Israel and Hezbollah is on Lebanese territory with the tacit approval Lebanon.This is not accidental, so no dialog is possible.
Extricate yourself as gingerly as possible and go on with your life.

It is obvious, clear and indisputable that Hezbollah has been preparing, building, training and stockpiling arms on Lebanese territory for at least 6 years.
For anyone to claim that the legitimate government of Lebanon was helpless to prevent it strains credulity.

Lebanon could either prevent her citizens from settling around the Hezbollah terrorist camps or refused to allow Hezbolla to build permanent war command and control centers on Lebanese territory.

To whine that the war has come to innocent civilians, of whatever religion they are, is simply stupid. Aid and support terrorists, and share their fate.

23 posted on 08/10/2006 4:05:33 PM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: ansel12
Is this guy just using this to attack the Jewish action or is he truly interested in the barbarity of war

BINGO! It's all about ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK supposedly from an 'insider'. It's a hit piece for sure.
24 posted on 08/10/2006 4:06:08 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: ruthles

Hezbollah has taken control of Lebanese land, and is using it for their own purposes. Lebanon has until now been unable to do anything about it. Israel is liberating them.

Tell your friend to thank God for Israel, that the hour of her liberation is at hand.


25 posted on 08/10/2006 4:08:04 PM PDT by marron
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To: ruthles

"Why doesn't Israel fight Hezbollah on its own turf? "

Maybe the Lebanese should kick Hezbollah off of Lebanese turf ?


26 posted on 08/10/2006 4:08:15 PM PDT by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
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To: trisham

No, I go to a non-denominational Christian church.


27 posted on 08/10/2006 4:09:05 PM PDT by ruthles (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean people aren't out to get you.)
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To: ruthles

You can also tell your friends that Jesus doesn't live there anymore ~ he relocated some time back.


28 posted on 08/10/2006 4:09:15 PM PDT by muawiyah (-/sarcasm)
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To: ruthles
Tell her to GO there and see for herself.
She will find the Israeli's respect Christians and will put their lives on the line to protect her if need be.

I'd suggest she take and un-escorted vist to the West Bank to get a real view of the other side but I don't think she'd get out alive.

29 posted on 08/10/2006 4:09:22 PM PDT by Zathras
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To: marron
Tell your friend to thank God for Israel, that the hour of her liberation is at hand.


BTTT
30 posted on 08/10/2006 4:10:05 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: ruthles
Ruthles ... the premise starts off wrong .. if your friend claims to be a Christian, then she follows Christ, who was born a Jew in the flesh .. and the history of the Jews is survival and retaliation .. with the exception of the Old Testament commands to wipe out nearly all of the Middle East at various times.

Israel (Isaac) has been hated by the Arabs (Ishmael) ever since Isaac was born, the true child of Promise. Ishmael has been throwing rocks for whatever time window you choose to believe .. personally, I'll say about 4,000 years.

The rocks have gotten more severe and the warfare more devestating.

Tell your friend to pray for the peace of Jerusalem and look for His second coming.

31 posted on 08/10/2006 4:10:37 PM PDT by knarf
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To: ruthles
We know that Hezbollah has some weapons which are causing some unfortunate killing and destruction in Israel. But Hezbollah does not have American weapons such as F-16s, F-15s, Apaches and smart bombs, etc

Uh, not quite. Hezb. has missiles that are reaching the furthest regions of Israel. They have modern anti-tank weapons and a tremendous underground bunker system.

When I saw the Lebanese Red Cross retrieving the tender dead bodies of little children from underneath the rubble and I looked at their innocent faces and iconic eyes, I wept. I was indeed ashamed to see the extent of the cruelty and barbarism of our world

What he saw was probably Al Reuters' doctored pictures. He is hardly "ashamed" when Jewish babies are destroyed. He didn't seemed too purturbed when buses, cafe's, and shops full of innocents are blown to bits either.

The Greeks have always had it in for the Jews in Israel, they have long sided with the Arabs. Not much new here.

32 posted on 08/10/2006 4:13:05 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: ruthles
Tell her
"Greeks are tough and stringy" - Polyphemus

OTT, I agree with ansell2, "...are you discussing how wars are or should be fought, or are you only being forced to defend the fact that Jews are presently engaged in war"?

The socialist Greeks are not friends to the U.S. But when the Turks start causing problems over Cypress or some other island, who do the Greeks come whinning to?

33 posted on 08/10/2006 4:13:14 PM PDT by muleskinner
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To: ruthles

ask your friend what he/she thinks of the Hizbollah criminals launching rockets at the very people of GOD from Qana???


34 posted on 08/10/2006 4:14:12 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (aka MikeinIraq)
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To: Agrarian; Kolokotronis

comments?


35 posted on 08/10/2006 4:14:35 PM PDT by Rytwyng (Only a Million Minuteman March can stop the Bush Border Betrayal!)
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To: Taxbilly
the mountains will drip with sweet wine,
and the hills will flow with milk.

That's king of gross.

Would you drink dirty wine or milk? Not me.

36 posted on 08/10/2006 4:16:27 PM PDT by humblegunner (If you're gonna die, die with your boots on.)
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To: ruthles

Get a new friend...


37 posted on 08/10/2006 4:17:51 PM PDT by MD_Willington_1976
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To: humblegunner
King = kind, obviously.
38 posted on 08/10/2006 4:18:29 PM PDT by humblegunner (If you're gonna die, die with your boots on.)
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To: knarf

She loves to say, "as if God needs our help to save Israel" or something to that effect.


39 posted on 08/10/2006 4:21:42 PM PDT by ruthles (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean people aren't out to get you.)
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To: ruthles

When Hezbollah hides behind women and children, keeps weapons caches in mosques, hospitals, apartment buildings, that is not the fault of the Israelis. Golda Meier once said that "There will be no peace in the Middle East until the Arabs love their children more than they hate the Jews." — and this one she said to Anwar Sadat "We can forgive you for killing our sons. But we will never forgive you for making us kill yours."

That is the difference between muslim and anyone who is not muslim.


40 posted on 08/10/2006 4:21:54 PM PDT by WV Mountain Mama (God bless Israel and their men and women fighting against an evil, cowardly enemy.)
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To: ruthles
Tell her to watch this and then ask her what she *THINKS* she knows about what happened there:

Green Helmet the movie director [Germany's NDR busts him in the act VIDEO]

You can see screen scrapes here:

41 posted on 08/10/2006 4:23:56 PM PDT by PajamaTruthMafia
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To: knarf

Great recap and advice!


42 posted on 08/10/2006 4:26:07 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
Tell her not to bother you for help when the muzzies are about to slit her throat. If she is really Christian, she should know you don't make deals with the Devil, and expect to survive.
Cowardice is no excuse!

Well Said!

43 posted on 08/10/2006 4:29:16 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: ruthles
I would tell your friend that many of us mourned years ago when the true Lebanon fell to the Syrians who believe that greater Syria is has hope of being attained once more with the Palestinian monsters who the Christian lead Lebanon gave shelter to in the hour of their need. Also tell your friend that this new Lebanon gave up the right to plausible deniability in regards to Hezbollohs actions when they allowed them to be part of the Lebanese government. I'm sure it was wonderful enjoying the fruits that Hezbollah had to offer, unfortunately one should beware of those shiny red apples.
44 posted on 08/10/2006 4:38:30 PM PDT by katagious (Katagious)
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To: ruthles
Giving Philip the benefit of the doubt, look at the date on the letter. It was written the day after the incident but before it became blindingly obvious that the Hezbos staged the whole thing. (Perhaps right down to killing the victims themselves when the IAF failed to play their intended role.) None of us can claim that we haven't reached for the keyboard too quickly on occasion and it looks like that's the case here. I would hope, however, to see Philip retract this statement. It is simply in error given what we all now know. Leaving this statement out in the public record gives aid to murderers and is a grievous sin.
45 posted on 08/10/2006 4:39:02 PM PDT by Redcloak (Speak softly and wear a loud shirt.)
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To: ruthles
This indiscriminate killing is against the Geneva Convention, the United Nations Charter and all laws of civilized nations.

Hezbollah violates the Geneva Convention without compunction as it launches rockets into Israeli civilian areas, hides among women and children, and uses "human shields" as well as using the services of a "rent-a-corpse" guy in green helmet.

If the Israelis were even a fraction as barbaric and bloodthirsty as they are described, there would be tens of thousands of dead, not hundreds.

46 posted on 08/10/2006 4:43:23 PM PDT by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 79-82)
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To: ruthles

Want to know why few Israelis have been killed, despite the rain of rockets? Because Israel built bomb shelters. How many bombshelters has Hezbollah built for the Lebanonese?


47 posted on 08/10/2006 4:46:12 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: ruthles

Do you know how many Israeli's are refugees? Last I heard, it was a million & a half. Over a hundred missiles were launched out of Qana. How many of those does your friend think Israel should absorb & do nothing to try to make them stop? Does she think Israel should lay down its arms, invite Hezbollah into Israel... The agressor (Hezbollah) chose where this war was going to be fought. Why didn't they try to over run Israeli defenses to spare the good people in Lebanon?

UN Resolution 1559 was passed about a year ago. Where were the European troups to help Lebanon enforce it? What has Lebanon done on its own to enforce it... a chunk of Lebanon's government are Hezbollah.

Hezbollah controls reporting coming out of South Lebanon. They have the passports of all jornalists there & one jornalist was threatened. Does she really think she's getting the full story or is she allowing herself to buy into the story being put out by professional propaganda artists?

Would more dead Jews make everything feel more fair to her? Does she feel a need for greater destruction in Israel? Would that make her feel better?


48 posted on 08/10/2006 4:46:22 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: ruthles

I hope you realize that the Antiochian Orthodox Church is not "Greek" Orthodox?


49 posted on 08/10/2006 4:48:07 PM PDT by FormerLib ("...the past ten years in Kosovo will be replayed here in what some call Aztlan.")
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To: ruthles

As a person who was raised orthodox myself I would answer this way. How long can we stand for murderers who kill just because other people are of another race religion or color. God did not mean this to be so! Sooner or later murderers have to come to justice and face the world for their crimes. Yes Cana is a mess , but Jesus would say to you himself that bricks are bricks. put no faith in bricks , put your faith in Jesus. The people who spurn the upper room of the last supper with their symbols of Isalm , have no respect for the miracles of our Lord. the Church of the Nativity was ruined and came back so to will Cana. But one thing I do know , the Jesus we all know and love would never want to see Islamo facists destroy his homeland either.Stand strong!


50 posted on 08/10/2006 4:53:10 PM PDT by betsyross1776
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