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A Dark Conspiracy of Prophecy and Alien Technology
American Chronicle ^ | August 14, 2006 | Gary S. Bekkum

Posted on 08/16/2006 2:51:31 PM PDT by Alex Murphy

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1 posted on 08/16/2006 2:51:33 PM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: Alex Murphy

bookmark to read later


2 posted on 08/16/2006 2:52:50 PM PDT by Talking_Mouse (Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just... Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Alex Murphy

bttt for later


3 posted on 08/16/2006 2:54:16 PM PDT by bmwcyle (Only stupid people would vote for McCain, Warner, Hagle, Snowe, Graham, or any RINO)
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To: Alex Murphy

Why would supernatural beings lust after mortal women? Why would they even lust?


4 posted on 08/16/2006 2:58:12 PM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: stuartcr
Why would supernatural beings lust after mortal women? Why would they even lust?

Why do we natural/mortal beings lust after (other) mortal women? IMO it's usually due to boredom.

5 posted on 08/16/2006 3:00:39 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Colossians 2:6)
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To: Alex Murphy

And what do the Zetas have to say about this?


6 posted on 08/16/2006 3:01:32 PM PDT by Grut
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To: All
Just a quick comment to everyone before this thread gets out of hand...

To the best of my knowledge, this is not satire. You have been warned.


7 posted on 08/16/2006 3:19:02 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Colossians 2:6)
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To: Alex Murphy

If they are supernatural, then why is a natural, human trait assigned to them? It seems very convenient for the story, to assign traits we want, to beings which we don't even know exist, much less understand.


8 posted on 08/16/2006 3:23:05 PM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: stuartcr

If they're supernatural and they can somehow interact with humans, why not use their technology or other powers to simply take over the Earth? They'll have all the wealth and power and there are a lot of hoochies who will gladly screw their whatever off to be part of it, just like with human despots.


9 posted on 08/16/2006 3:23:32 PM PDT by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: stuartcr
>Why would supernatural beings lust after mortal women?


10 posted on 08/16/2006 3:23:32 PM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: theFIRMbss

What, they want our shoes?


11 posted on 08/16/2006 3:24:28 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Colossians 2:6)
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To: Alex Murphy
>What, they want our shoes?

Of course! That is why
the alien-run Apple
makes those Nike things!

12 posted on 08/16/2006 3:37:45 PM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: Alex Murphy
"This "delusion" will be a great lie the Antichrist and his regime of horror will perpetrate upon the world (read Rev. Chapter 13).

The "delusion," many --including yours truly--believe will be part of the lie about what has happened to those whom disappeared by the millions.

Part of this lie will be that the catastrophe was due to the intervention of "space brothers," or some other such term. These people were removed --perhaps the story will go--because of their unbelief in the tenets of humanism --that Mankind can solve its own problems. Antichrist, of course, will have the answers, being the ultimately evolved man."

I have often said that after the Rapture, the Antichrist will explain the missing people as having been taken by aliens. Then he will explain that the virgin birth of Jesus was done by these same aliens by implanting their seed into Mary and even guided the wise men to the birth with one of their ships, (i.e. the star). Of course the Antichrist will have supernatural power (like Jesus) from these same aliens and deserves to also be worshiped... like Jesus.

Just the humble thoughts of a Bible thump'n hillbilly.

FReegards,
DocRock

13 posted on 08/16/2006 3:50:37 PM PDT by DocRock
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To: Grut
>what do the Zetas have to say about this?

"...Humans have many states of consciousness. They are aware of the subconscious and conscious, and amnesiac states where the conscious is turned off and thus does not remember the time when it is absent. It is possible, in coming out of an amnesiac state, for the conscious to be updated by the subconscious, when the person is emotionally ready for this information. The Zetas likewise utiltize this chemical ability to turn the conscious off when making contact, to be recorded only in the subconscious during the Awakening period. This is a chemical process, one the body can switch on and off readily. Sleep walking is the body awake but recording only in the subconscious. Thus, the person seems awake and can even converse, but has no memory of the setting later, consciously. Sleep walking is used by the person when there are desires not acceptable to the conscious mind. Do I want to walk into the neighbors bedroom, and get close to his beautiful wife? Hey, it wasn't me, I was asleep at the time!

ZetaTalk: GodlikeProduction Live written Aug 5, 2006 on the live GodlikeProduction Radio show

14 posted on 08/16/2006 4:02:15 PM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: theFIRMbss

That's what happened to me...While I was an angel, I saw these fantastic looking shoes~~~~~~and couldn't keep my hands off 'em...(what are those white things?)


15 posted on 08/16/2006 4:22:07 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: theFIRMbss; Dr. Eckleburg
The Zetas likewise utiltize this chemical ability to turn the conscious off when making contact, to be recorded only in the subconscious during the Awakening period. This is a chemical process, one the body can switch on and off readily. Sleep walking is the body awake but recording only in the subconscious. Thus, the person seems awake and can even converse, but has no memory of the setting later, consciously.

Better get yourself a good pair of sunglasses...


16 posted on 08/16/2006 4:27:33 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Colossians 2:6)
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To: Alex Murphy
this is not satire. You have been warned.

Not the first time I've seen this kind of stuff. It should be, but never is, labeled Speculation. The kind of thing that's interesting to puzzle over, but you really can't do anything serious with.

I can tell you that there are some pretty strange ideas out there, and that the government has explored the paranormal for years. The most well known program was initiated by the CIA and later moved to the various services and the Defense Intelligence Agency. When the program was partially declassified it was known as STAR GATE. One of our contacts in the private sector, an eschatologist in close contact with government consultants and officers still interested in phenomenology, actually suggested that we tell you that Starstream Research was "an outreach front for an insider group connected with national security and phenomenology,"

What's an "eschatologist" -- something you can study in college, get a degree in and make a lot of money at? The feds got any on staff?

I'm guessing the guy's book is this. Kim Riddelbarger, one of this generation's purveyors of eschatological sanity, reviews it under "Just Plain Nutty".

(His other novel is about the Roswell incident. As a plug for something you'll probably find more interesting, I'll point you to Rex May, L. Neil Smith and Scott Beiser's Roswell, Texas.)

Jacques Vallee, an associate of J. Allen Hyneck (the original serious UFO researcher), and not any kind of believer to the best of my knowledge, eventually came to the conclusion that all this UFO related stuff was the result of a sinister conspiracy (of who, he could not say) -- someone messing with our heads.

17 posted on 08/16/2006 6:19:14 PM PDT by Lee N. Field
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To: Quix

ping


18 posted on 11/09/2006 8:40:30 AM PST by Hegemony Cricket (I'm Hegemony Cricket, and I improvised this message.)
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To: Alex Murphy; Las Vegas Dave; KevinDavis

Very congruent with what I've believed for more than 45 years.


19 posted on 11/09/2006 12:02:14 PM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: Hegemony Cricket

Thanks.

I rather concur fairly wholesale with his perspective.


20 posted on 11/09/2006 12:03:37 PM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: stuartcr

Why would supernatural beings lust after mortal women? Why would they even lust?

= = = =

That does not compute. BEEP Insufficient data. BEEP.

Entities involved have not disclosed this data. Our sensors collect inadequate information to answer the question.

Historical records merely record that they did so without explanations about why.

Perhaps Brad Pit could explain? Tom Cruise? Dilldo Klintoon?


21 posted on 11/09/2006 12:06:43 PM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: Alex Murphy

And, Warn we must.

Though we know most will not heed until they are being marched underground by the Morlocks.

or . . . perhaps . . . being 'invited' for dinner by the Dracos . . . or some such.


22 posted on 11/09/2006 12:08:02 PM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: stuartcr

Actually, quite a lot is known . . . depending on one's definition of known.

Bi-pedal folks seem to predominate . . .

But hey, even amongst our mammals . . . some folks think their dogs and cats are more human than their spouses!


23 posted on 11/09/2006 12:09:21 PM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: Enterprise

Once upon a time

GOD

said, let US make man in OUR image . . . Genesis.

The rest, as they say, is history.

But He does set limits and HIS OWN TIMING on what and when He allows the predicted future to unfold.


24 posted on 11/09/2006 12:10:38 PM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: Alex Murphy
"Beginning in August 2006, Starstream Research is examining the possibility that the human race is under the influence of otherworldly intelligence."

If it could be proved & judging (solely) by what I've witnessed?
It'd have to have begun in January of 1993.
But it cannot.

So as things stand right now the United States of America must be concerned with *another* kind of unworldly influence, beginning real soon.

...Democrats.

25 posted on 11/09/2006 12:15:54 PM PST by Landru (That does it, no sleep number for you pal.)
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To: Quix

Heh - thought you might. I don't know about "wholesale", but I do find a lot of dots there that could very plausibly connect, based on what I know and have experienced.


26 posted on 11/09/2006 12:41:49 PM PST by Hegemony Cricket (I'm Hegemony Cricket, and I improvised this message.)
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To: Hegemony Cricket

THANKS TONS.


27 posted on 11/09/2006 12:45:23 PM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: Quix

"Why would supernatural beings lust after mortal women? Why would they even lust?"

I think it is because they have mind-melded with Jimmy Carter.


28 posted on 11/09/2006 12:48:59 PM PST by dashing doofus (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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To: Quix
"said, let US make man in OUR image . . . Genesis."

And sayeth the assembled host: "Uh, can you just make man in YOUR image and leave the rest of us out of it?"

29 posted on 11/09/2006 12:51:55 PM PST by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: Quix

I guess a lot of stuff is known or at least thought to be known, if one defines it the right way.


30 posted on 11/09/2006 1:05:49 PM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: Hegemony Cricket; dashing doofus; Landru; Quix
"They are interdimensionals -- specifically, angels that fell with Lucifer in his original rebellion in Heaven."

Why would angels need ANY kind of vehicle to travel anywhere?

31 posted on 11/09/2006 1:08:24 PM PST by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: Enterprise
"Why would angels need ANY kind of vehicle to travel anywhere?"

*Clipped wings*?? :o)

Sorry, Enterprise.
But as much as I think sometimes there's a nugget of truth to this kind of stuff, I gotta have fun with it. Laugh.

If for one thing, only.

...it feels good. ;^)

32 posted on 11/09/2006 1:11:56 PM PST by Landru (That does it, no sleep number for you pal.)
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To: Enterprise

"Why would angels need ANY kind of vehicle to travel anywhere?"

Come on! The answer to this is obvious: Their wings provide no aerodynamic lift in the vacuum of space.


33 posted on 11/09/2006 1:14:14 PM PST by dashing doofus (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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To: dashing doofus; Landru
"Their wings provide no aerodynamic lift in the vacuum of space."

DOH! How could I have missed the obvious.

34 posted on 11/09/2006 1:16:09 PM PST by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: Enterprise

Its cool. After Black Tuesday, I'm not thinking straight either. ;-)


35 posted on 11/09/2006 1:21:59 PM PST by dashing doofus (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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To: Enterprise
"DOH! How could I have missed the obvious."

Well it's the day after a terrible shock, Enterprise.
Anyone could've had an oversight such as yours.

Say given your traumatizing have you spoken with your government appointed crisis counselor, yet?

...gov's paying. {g}

36 posted on 11/09/2006 1:23:19 PM PST by Landru (That does it, no sleep number for you pal.)
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To: ALASKA; ActionNewsBill; airborne; albertp; andysandmikesmom; areafiftyone; aruanan; ...

Pinging the list...


37 posted on 11/09/2006 1:36:49 PM PST by Las Vegas Dave (HDTV ping list, please FReepmail me if you would like your name added.)
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To: Enterprise

Hmmm. Did someone say they NEEDED a vehicle?


38 posted on 11/09/2006 1:43:11 PM PST by Hegemony Cricket (I'm Hegemony Cricket, and I improvised this message.)
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To: Alex Murphy; All

Any advance civilization advanced enough would seem to have supernatural powers/magic to primative peoples [us to speak of] that does not stop the natural drive to reproduce ones self anywhere in the universe. The drive to sperad oneself everywhere is one of the oldest & strongest drives in all of nature!


39 posted on 11/09/2006 1:50:28 PM PST by TMSuchman (American by birth, Rebel by choice, Marine by act of GOD!)
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To: Hegemony Cricket
"Hmmm. Did someone say they NEEDED a vehicle?"

I don't know if they NEED a vehicle, but the article states that they USE some sort of transportation. If they are angels, and if they are interdimensional, why would they need anything to assist them in traveling? Hint: UFO refers to Unidentified FLYING Object.

"SSR: Starstream Research recently ran a story about Ingo Swann, a psychic consultant who worked with the military to train their psychic spies. Swann claims that he was taken by a black ops UFO group to observe a UFO in northern Alaska. He describes an object that appears as if from nowhere out of a fog illuminated by colored lightning bolts. Swann says the object appeared to grow in size and then began to shoot beams into the woods. Some of his description fits the classic nuts and bolts UFO alien hardware, but there is also the impression that the object emerged from another dimension before manifesting here in our world. If you don't think these UFO sightings, etc. involve extraterrestrials, what are they then?

Terry James: I've already answered this above, I think. They are interdimensionals -- specifically, angels that fell with Lucifer in his original rebellion in Heaven."

40 posted on 11/09/2006 1:55:29 PM PST by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: Enterprise

I guess my point in emphasizing NEED vs. USE is that everybody (and everything) USES things that they don't necessarily NEED.

I mean, one explanation is that the vehicles are merely theatrical props for the sake of the viewer.

Another might be some form of recreation, e.g. do you ever ride a bike or walk anywhere? Do you own a car? Why would you not take your car everywhere you ever go?

Of course there are numerous other possibilities. It's never a good idea to try to hammer the things you don't know into the mold of the things you do...


41 posted on 11/09/2006 2:06:18 PM PST by Hegemony Cricket (I'm Hegemony Cricket, and I improvised this message.)
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To: Hegemony Cricket
"I mean, one explanation is that the vehicles are merely theatrical props for the sake of the viewer."

Kind like the Wizard of Oz then. BFD.

"Another might be some form of recreation, e.g. do you ever ride a bike or walk anywhere? Do you own a car? Why would you not take your car everywhere you ever go?"

I am a physical being. I have to live by the laws of a physical existence. The means I choose for transportation must still conform to the laws of physicality. Again, if angels are inter dimensional, why do they need ANYTHING of a physical nature to move around? Why do they need to go anywhere anyway? What's here on Earth for them?

"It's never a good idea to try to hammer the things you don't know into the mold of the things you do..."

Fine, if you know so much about the subject, explain it clearly to me instead of asking dumb questions. If you can't, then don't lecture me about what I choose to hammer.

42 posted on 11/09/2006 2:21:03 PM PST by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: Alex Murphy

I've long felt that UFOs are not extraterrestrial, but actually manifestations from the spirit realm.


43 posted on 11/09/2006 2:26:24 PM PST by My2Cents
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To: Alex Murphy

bookmark for later reading


44 posted on 11/09/2006 2:55:59 PM PST by i_dont_chat (I have the right to offend. You can take offense or not.)
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To: Alex Murphy

STARGATE???


45 posted on 11/09/2006 3:16:30 PM PST by NathanR (Apr├Ęs moi, le deluge.)
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To: My2Cents
I've long felt that UFOs are not extraterrestrial, but actually manifestations from the spirit realm.

I agree with that as well.

46 posted on 11/09/2006 4:12:14 PM PST by ladyinred (RIP my precious Lamb Chop)
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To: Hegemony Cricket

It's never a good idea to try to hammer the things you don't know into the mold of the things you do...
= = =

Especially with a brute force sledge hammer

in EVERY SINGLE CONTEXT AND CASE.


47 posted on 11/09/2006 4:40:19 PM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: Enterprise

Scripture speaks of a HUGE GREAT DECEPTION in our end times era.

I've long felt it involved UFO's/ET's pretending to be benign or beneficial but helping force the world into one world government.

Sounds like there are some scenarios which could cast ET's as conquering horrid hoards AND/OR as saviors--either one or both coercing/forcing the scared planet's citizens into the tyrannical satanic government.

Vehicles certainly help sell the advanced beings from the stars scenarios.

Some vehicles may well themselves be spiritual and/or organic. But I do not believe all of them are. Too many nuts and bolts pieces captured possibly as early as the 1930's.

My relative worked around tangible vehicles.

Anyway--interesting times, indeed.


48 posted on 11/09/2006 4:45:16 PM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: Hegemony Cricket

AGreed.


49 posted on 11/09/2006 4:46:53 PM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: Enterprise

The Trinity explains US sufficiently. I don't think the Heavenly Hosts were in on that decision.


50 posted on 11/09/2006 4:47:28 PM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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