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The Difference Between Religion And Christianity In America

Posted on 08/20/2006 6:32:59 PM PDT by A Blind Man Who Can See

When Jesus was living, he did not align himself with the Jewish religious parties, then called Saducees and Pharisees, nor the secular authorities: King Herod and Rome. He obeyed the Mosaic law and even paid tribute. He told Nicodemus, an old man that he had to be born again to be saved. Jesus meant born spiritually. Jesus preached that this spiritual new baby would be then, dead to the world, living in the world but not of it. He pointed out that worrying about the future was not what a Christian would be doing because tomorrow has enough worries to itself. Jesus had a couple main commandments and those are the backbone of Chrisitanity: love one another, that is referring to fellow Christians, and love your enemy. Do good to those that despitefully use you. Much has been said about the issue of marriage ammendment for gays and lesbians, and for this topic that will only be used to illustrate what Jesus said. Jesus told the crowd when they were about to stone a woman, those of you without sin throw the first stone. Everyone left, and Jesus told the woman, go, sin no more. Getting back to Family tradtions, that is marriage of a man to a woman, in this case as a Religious doctrine, what did Jesus have to say? He said, that except that a man or a woman leave their marriage for a bill of divorcement, for fornication, those that leave the marriage and remarry are adulterers. Whatever God joined together, let NO MAN put asunder. This of course includes annulments. Religious leaders have said that the U.S. should murder foreign leaders. Jesus said Satan was a liar and murderer from the beginning. Religious leaders have disobeyed the laws, encouraging illegal immigrants, shielding clergy that are child molesters, and taking tax breaks turning their temples into dens for money changers. Satan took Jesus to the top of a mountain and told Him, bow before me and everything you see will be yours. Clergy who are in league with the worldly establishments, are in league with the owner, Satan. Jesus told Satan, thou shalt not worship anone but the Lord Almighty. Praying to anything, idols, statues,icons, is a violation of the ten commandments that Jesus said are in place until all is fulfilled. He told a man not to call him ABBA, that is father, only the Father in heaven! To confess your sins to the Father in secret, not to a priest, when Jesus was a Priest/King after the order of Melchidezek, the sacrificiallamb that iliminated the need for priests: Levites who spred the blood of lambs annually for Israels' sins. Paul clearly emaphasized that a Bishop should be the husband of one wife! The saints in Pauls' days were living people, not perfect and certainly canonization is a doctrine of man, not from God. To wrap this up, the shootings at Colombine shed innocent blood, but one that really fits this topic is the young lady who would not denounce her Lord, Jesus Christ, and became a martyr for Christ. Idon't believe there is much chance of mainstream Americas' religious cults to become martyrs for Christ. They bless the murder of other humans, purportedly to bring about the coming of Christ. But when the man was in front of the judgement seat, he said Lord, Lord, remember me? The Lord, spat him out like luke warm water, and said, I never knew you!


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1 posted on 08/20/2006 6:33:01 PM PDT by A Blind Man Who Can See
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To: A Blind Man Who Can See

I once had a priest tell me that early Catholicism was not so much about religion as it was about "crowd control". If you trace the history of it you find he was right.


2 posted on 08/20/2006 6:37:08 PM PDT by stm (Good people sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence)
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To: A Blind Man Who Can See

So....I can safely assume that you're not a Catholic?....


3 posted on 08/20/2006 6:38:39 PM PDT by baltodog (R.I.P. Balto: 2001(?) - 2005)
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To: A Blind Man Who Can See
A Blind Man Who Can See
Since Aug 19, 2006

A Newbie Whose First Post Is A Thread

IB4Z?

4 posted on 08/20/2006 7:10:08 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Colossians 2:6)
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To: A Blind Man Who Can See

Well I am not blind so please format this thing!


5 posted on 08/20/2006 7:12:05 PM PDT by apackof2 (They wait on you hand and foot so they can charge you an arm and a leg)
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To: apackof2
When Jesus was living, he did not align himself with the Jewish religious parties, then called Saducees and Pharisees, nor the secular authorities: King Herod and Rome. He obeyed the Mosaic law and even paid tribute. He told Nicodemus, an old man that he had to be born again to be saved. Jesus meant born spiritually.

Jesus preached that this spiritual new baby would be then, dead to the world, living in the world but not of it. He pointed out that worrying about the future was not what a Christian would be doing because tomorrow has enough worries to itself.

Jesus had a couple main commandments and those are the backbone of Chrisitanity: love one another, that is referring to fellow Christians, and love your enemy. Do good to those that despitefully use you.

Much has been said about the issue of marriage ammendment for gays and lesbians, and for this topic that will only be used to illustrate what Jesus said. Jesus told the crowd when they were about to stone a woman, those of you without sin throw the first stone. Everyone left, and Jesus told the woman, go, sin no more.

Getting back to Family tradtions, that is marriage of a man to a woman, in this case as a Religious doctrine, what did Jesus have to say? He said, that except that a man or a woman leave their marriage for a bill of divorcement, for fornication, those that leave the marriage and remarry are adulterers. Whatever God joined together, let NO MAN put asunder. This of course includes annulments.

Religious leaders have said that the U.S. should murder foreign leaders. Jesus said Satan was a liar and murderer from the beginning. Religious leaders have disobeyed the laws, encouraging illegal immigrants, shielding clergy that are child molesters, and taking tax breaks turning their temples into dens for money changers.

Satan took Jesus to the top of a mountain and told Him, bow before me and everything you see will be yours.

Clergy who are in league with the worldly establishments, are in league with the owner, Satan. Jesus told Satan, thou shalt not worship anone but the Lord Almighty.

Praying to anything, idols, statues,icons, is a violation of the ten commandments that Jesus said are in place until all is fulfilled. He told a man not to call him ABBA, that is father, only the Father in heaven! To confess your sins to the Father in secret, not to a priest, when Jesus was a Priest/King after the order of Melchidezek, the sacrificiallamb that iliminated the need for priests: Levites who spred the blood of lambs annually for Israels' sins.

Paul clearly emaphasized that a Bishop should be the husband of one wife! The saints in Pauls' days were living people, not perfect and certainly canonization is a doctrine of man, not from God.

To wrap this up, the shootings at Colombine shed innocent blood, but one that really fits this topic is the young lady who would not denounce her Lord, Jesus Christ, and became a martyr for Christ.

I don't believe there is much chance of mainstream Americas' religious cults to become martyrs for Christ. They bless the murder of other humans, purportedly to bring about the coming of Christ. But when the man was in front of the judgement seat, he said Lord, Lord, remember me? The Lord, spat him out like luke warm water, and said, I never knew you!

6 posted on 08/20/2006 8:53:27 PM PDT by knarf (Someone stole my tagline !! It was here a minute ago .. /8^( ...)
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To: A Blind Man Who Can See
Jesus had a couple main commandments and those are the backbone of Chrisitanity: love one another, that is referring to fellow Christians, and love your enemy.

Actually Jesus' two main commandments were love God and love one another:


7 posted on 08/20/2006 9:02:33 PM PDT by Between the Lines (Be careful how you live your life, it may be the only gospel anyone reads.)
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To: knarf
But when the man was in front of the judgement seat, he said Lord, Lord, remember me? The Lord, spat him out like luke warm water, and said, I never knew you!

Mixing up our scriptures are we?

Amazing how you combine them into a single event.
8 posted on 08/20/2006 9:26:33 PM PDT by Between the Lines (Be careful how you live your life, it may be the only gospel anyone reads.)
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To: A Blind Man Who Can See

I sure wish you'd get your brother, A Blind Man Who Can Type to help you with your postings.


9 posted on 08/20/2006 9:53:23 PM PDT by A Balrog of Morgoth (With fire, sword, and stinging whip I drive the RINOs in terror before me.)
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To: Between the Lines

Uhhh ... BTL ... all I did was format this abomination .... complain to A Blind Man Who (says he) Can See.


10 posted on 08/21/2006 2:57:32 AM PDT by knarf (Someone stole my tagline !! It was here a minute ago .. /8^( ...)
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To: knarf; A Blind Man Who Can See

Yes my post #8 was directed to a Blind Man. Sorry about that.


11 posted on 08/21/2006 5:44:03 AM PDT by Between the Lines (Be careful how you live your life, it may be the only gospel anyone reads.)
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To: A Blind Man Who Can See
My favorite is this gem:

"Religious leaders have said that the U.S. should murder foreign leaders."

Mr. Blind, The world through your eyes is scary. You know way more then the Pope. Are you infallible in these teachings of yours? You condemn people by telling a story about how Christ forgave a person caught in adultery. Condemnation through an example of forgiveness ... glad you could join the "Religious Leaders."

Does this make your teachings by definition bad because you stand before others and condemn people. Or maybe you should put away your stones and walk off.
12 posted on 08/21/2006 8:04:48 AM PDT by klossg (GK - God is good!)
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To: Between the Lines

Didn't that phrase finish with him saying" on these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets"???


13 posted on 08/21/2006 9:00:20 AM PDT by x_plus_one (No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American Public)
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To: x_plus_one

Yes it does. But not in the NIV.


14 posted on 08/21/2006 9:13:34 AM PDT by Between the Lines (Be careful how you live your life, it may be the only gospel anyone reads.)
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To: A Blind Man Who Can See

Man, the added keywords are funnier than the original post.


15 posted on 08/21/2006 11:16:23 AM PDT by Dumb_Ox (http://kevinjjones.blogspot.com)
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To: Between the Lines

So what is the need of "religion"? To answer the question, "What does it MEAN to love God and to love others." All the questions we face in the modern world come down to these two meanings. And that's why Jesus built His Church.


16 posted on 08/21/2006 2:52:12 PM PDT by tmbrrr
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To: A Balrog of Morgoth

Even a Blind Man can learn to use paragraphs.


17 posted on 08/22/2006 5:05:05 AM PDT by iowamark
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To: klossg

you know tht Pat Robertson said that it would be expedient to murder Mr. Chavez.
Satan was a liar and murderer from the beginning, forgive
I have to forgive, but you know a fruit by its tree, my friend and bad fruit doesn't grow on good trees, no matter how much I forgive.
Do you think its seeming for a preacher to preach murder?
I am sorry you were offended.


18 posted on 09/02/2006 9:39:51 PM PDT by A Blind Man Who Can See
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To: stm

priests? the ones that abuse kids and then the cathilic church lies to protect the wrong doers instead of sheperding their sheep?


19 posted on 09/02/2006 9:42:45 PM PDT by A Blind Man Who Can See
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To: A Blind Man Who Can See
They bless the murder of other humans, purportedly to bring about the coming of Christ.

Cite? Or do you just get off on bearing false witness?

20 posted on 09/02/2006 9:47:07 PM PDT by Larry Lucido ("There's no problem so big that government intervention can't make it worse.")
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To: A Blind Man Who Can See

It wouldn't bother me a bit if Chavez, Castro, lil Kim, and Ahmadinutjob met untimely demises. Nope, not at all.


21 posted on 09/02/2006 9:51:06 PM PDT by Larry Lucido ("There's no problem so big that government intervention can't make it worse.")
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To: A Blind Man Who Can See

Well, since the vast majority of priests did no such thing, he may have been talking about one of those ones.


22 posted on 09/02/2006 9:52:14 PM PDT by Larry Lucido ("There's no problem so big that government intervention can't make it worse.")
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To: A Blind Man Who Can See
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priests? the ones that abuse kids and then the cathilic church lies to protect the wrong doers instead of sheperding their sheep?

Also, be careful not to overstate your case or make false or hateful comments.
23 posted on 09/02/2006 9:58:51 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Between the Lines
There is no commandment greater than these."

Originally it read "On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets"

You can thank revisionist bible writers for the changes.

The original text makes more sense and has much more depth of meaning.

24 posted on 09/03/2006 12:41:26 AM PDT by x_plus_one (No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American Public)
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To: A Blind Man Who Can See
"you know tht Pat Robertson said that it would be expedient to murder Mr. Chavez."

Oh, thats who you refer to as a religious leader. Okay. If a religious leader does this, then you should question them. How banana headed is that?

As long as you are not forsaking all religious leaders. Though not perfect they are all we have. We need to commune with each other. We need to help each other grow. People will fail - they are fallen. But, we should love one another, even so. Else we will be all alone in our "perfection." And by definition we'd miss Christ's calling to love one another as He has loved us.
25 posted on 09/05/2006 8:06:30 AM PDT by klossg (GK - God is good!)
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