Posted on 09/04/2006 9:27:10 AM PDT by Salvation
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I never knew much about solo scriptura as a part of the reformation or how it is used in other religions. But, I always wondered how someone could be expected to read the Bible and to understand its complete meaning. There are so many customs and traditions of Biblical times that are assumed knowledge. Without the church tradition and interpretation, I would miss a vast majority of the meaning.
You are so right here.
Why do we bless ourselves with the Sign of the Cross?
Why does the priest wash his hands during the Mass?
There are so many things that are connected with ancient Jewish tradition. (Some of which Christ was trying to debunk in this last week's Gospel when he said it is more important about what is on the inside than what the external Jewish traditions might be.)
Odd, we attended Mass at a parish in a different part of town yesterday...a notoriously liberal and affluent part of the city.
The priest attempted to justify the "charismatic" prayer and singing by citing the readings during his homily.
...and that was right before the prayers of the faithful that included "fair wages" for construction workers, "fair taxation ensuring the most blessed pay their share" and NO REFERENCE to praying for our troops.
This is San Antonio - we have three major military posts here - and NO reference?
/rant
Hey, I agree with you.
Douay-Rheims
Matthew 6: 7 And when you are praying, speak not much, as the heathens. For they think that in their much speaking they may be heard. 8 Be not you therefore like to them, for your Father knoweth what is needful for you, before you ask him.
NIV
Matthew 6: 7And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. 8 Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.
AMP (Amplified Bible)
Matthew 6: 7 And when you pray, do not heap up phrases (multiply words, repeating the same ones over and over) as the Gentiles do, for they think they will be heard for their much speaking. [I Kings 18:25-29.] 8 Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask Him.
Critics, not knowing about the meditation part, imagine the rosary must be boring, uselessly repetitious, meaningless, and their criticism carries weight if you reduce the rosary to a formula. Christ forbade meaningless repetition (Matt. 6:7), but the Bible itself prescribes some prayers that involve repetition. Look at Psalms 136, which is a litany (a prayer with a recurring refrain) meant to be sung in the Jewish Temple. In the psalm the refrain is "His mercy endures forever." Sometimes in Psalms 136 the refrain starts before a sentence is finished, meaning it is more repetitious than the rosary, though this prayer was written directly under the inspiration of God.
My immediate reaction is: Are we Christians or Davidians?
Huh??
How does this tie into the topic of tradition and Reform?
The interesting thing (to me) is that Jesus' teaching on this prevents the short circuiting of our reasoning faculties in our connection with God.
Tradition vs. sola Scriptura.
And your point is??????
One of the great battle cries of the Protestant Reformation was “sola scriptura!” It seemed to many that the problem with the Catholic Church over the centuries was that it had added all sorts of practices, customs and doctrines. [emphasis added]
So I am assuming that you support the Bible only?
The nest two paragraphs continue to point to Holy Tradition.
** The “Reformers” read Jesus’ critique of the Pharisees’ traditions in this Sunday’s Gospel and thought they’d recognized the same pharisaical approach in the Church of their day. The solution, it seemed, was simple: Let’s purify the Church by ditching all these traditions and keep the Bible alone.
But if we read this portion of the Bible closely, the Lord is not telling us that tradition is a dirty word. His Apostle Paul, in fact, tells us in 2 Thessalonians 2:15 to “hold fast to the traditions you received from us, either by our word or by letter.”**
How do you interpret Paul's words then? What traiditon to you 'hold fast' to?
No, I could probably be accurately described as heterodox. My point is why are we looking to Paul or David when we have Jesus' words on the subject? I am holding fast to his teaching.
As to Jesus reading Isaiah, he did as part of the traditional service, but his teaching directly after that was anything but traditional, thus their anger. The truth often makes people angry, especially when it shows the error in their tradition. The people in the synagogue revered Elijah, yet Jesus points out that few accepted him in his time.
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