To: Agrarian; ArrogantBustard; Kolokotronis; kosta50
Thank you for pointing out something I neglected to mention and probably should have. When Orthodoxy says baptism (or other mysteries) performed outside the church are void of grace, we mean the sacramental grace conferred by the Orthodox Mystery. Many Orthodox theologians and even saints have written with strong conviction that heterodox sacraments are not completely pointless or lacking in benefit. We don't know what benefits God may choose to confer through them. It may well be different in each case. As AB noted earlier "your mileage may vary."
To: Calvin Coollidge; Agrarian; ArrogantBustard; Kolokotronis
We don't know what benefits God may choose to confer through them. It may well be different in each case
That is a correct Orthodox view. Just as we do not judge what happens to unbpatized babies. We baptize our babies because we want them to enter the Body of Chirst as early as possible and grown in His grace. Our onyl concern is for the soul of the Orthodox or those who are enetering Orthodoxy. The rest is up to God.
posted on 09/11/2006 6:13:42 PM PDT
(Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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