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To: William Terrell
The word by which His Father, stepfather, mother, brothers, sisters, disciples, and friends all called Him is Yeshua.

There's nothing wrong with using the English mispronounciation of a Latin transliteration of a Greek transliteration of a Hebrew name, mind--I'm not into the Sacred Name nonsense ("If you don't pronounce it right, you're not saved!"). I just prefer to call Him by the original Name.

We'll just have to accept that as one of my many personal quirks, and move on.

36 posted on 09/20/2006 1:02:21 PM PDT by Buggman (http://brit-chadasha.blogspot.com)
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To: Buggman
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b'shem Yah'shua

45 posted on 09/20/2006 1:38:01 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 144:1 Praise be to YHvH, my Rock, who trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle.)
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To: Buggman; William Terrell; 1000 silverlings; DAVEY CROCKETT; Dr. Eckleburg; HarleyD; ladyinred; ...
The word by which His Father, stepfather, mother, brothers, sisters, disciples, and friends all called Him is Yeshua.

Well, not exactly. The only infallible record we have of Jesus's name is of the Greek Iesous. In fact no one knows for sure if His Hebrew/Aramaic name was Yehoshua or Yeshua or something else.

This being the case there is no reason to believe that, for example, the apostle Paul -- a fluent Greek-speaker -- felt is necessary to transliterate the name of Jesus to Aramaic for his Greek-speaking audience and disciples. Even many of the Jews of Jesus' day called Him Iesous in their native tongue since a large number of them were Jews born and raised in a Greek-speaking culture (cf. Acts 6:1; John 7:35; 1 Peter 1:1).

But allowing for the disputed theory that a small portion of the NT was originally penned in Aramaic/Hebrew, the majority was authentically written in Greek by folks like Paul to a Greek audience who used the name Iesous to refer to Our Savior.

Obviously Paul and the other NT writers were not as hung up on the Hebrew name as folks in the modern day "Jewish roots" movement. They are just trying to be "more Jewish" than Paul. Or is it "Saul"?

46 posted on 09/20/2006 1:40:59 PM PDT by topcat54
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To: Buggman
The article is in English presumably for an English language readership.

55 posted on 09/20/2006 2:45:57 PM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: Buggman

We'll just have to accept that as one of my many personal quirks, and move on.
= = =

I happen to love you deeply quirks and all.

Some of the quirks are quite loveable, even.


81 posted on 09/21/2006 12:18:03 AM PDT by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: Buggman
There's nothing wrong with using the English mispronounciation of a Latin transliteration of a Greek transliteration of a Hebrew name, mind--I'm not into the Sacred Name nonsense ("If you don't pronounce it right, you're not saved!"). I just prefer to call Him by the original Name.

I sometimes type Jesus and other times Yehoshua, though I suppose Joshua would be more correct over Jesus since there was no J common in the English language until around the 16th century. Prior to that time, those words now shown with a J were pronounced as though the J was a Y. So 'Joshua', even in English, is proven conclusively to be (Yeshua, Yahshua, or Yehoshua) when the original Y sound is used. Thus, it is impossible for 'Jesus' to be anything close to the true name, because the 'J' sound did not exist when he was alive.

138 posted on 09/23/2006 12:54:40 PM PDT by ET(end tyranny) (John 8:40 But now ye seek to kill me, a MAN that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God:)
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