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Tiger Saves Awkward Moment (Man asks Woods "Have you accepted Jesus as your Lord and Savior?")
The New York Post ^ | October 18, 2006 | Staff

Posted on 10/18/2006 9:25:27 PM PDT by DaveLoneRanger

IGER Woods got ambushed by an evangelical guest of Nike on Oct. 9 during an exclusive golf outing for top business and entertainment executives.

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"During the lunch, there was a Q&A session with Woods, and most people were asking about their swings or golf questions," our source said. "Until some guy - a guest of Nike - stood up and said, 'Have you accepted Jesus as your Lord and Savior? And if not, prayfully, would you?' " The source added, "You could have heard a pin drop. People were mortified.

But Tiger was as unflappable as he is on the golf course and responded, 'My father was a Christian - of course Christianity was part of my life - but my mother is Asian and Buddhism was also part of my childhood, so I practice both faiths respectfully.' "

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TOPICS: Current Events; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: buddha; buddhism; buddhist; evangelism; golf; gotchachristianist; tigerwoods
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I do not see what is so gauche about this.
1 posted on 10/18/2006 9:25:28 PM PDT by DaveLoneRanger
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To: DaveLoneRanger
I do not see what is so gauche about this.

Thanks ... for forcing me to go open a dictionary.

2 posted on 10/18/2006 9:28:30 PM PDT by El Cid
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To: El Cid

But you agree it was the right word to use, yes? :-)

It's pronounced like "ghost" with a 'che' in the end. Now you can impress all your friends.


3 posted on 10/18/2006 9:31:02 PM PDT by DaveLoneRanger (Lord, help me to be the Christian conservative that liberals fear I am.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger
But Tiger was as unflappable as he is on the golf course and responded, 'My father was a Christian - of course Christianity was part of my life - but my mother is Asian and Buddhism was also part of my childhood, so I practice both faiths respectfully.' "

Simply not possible.

4 posted on 10/18/2006 9:32:54 PM PDT by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

"I practice both faiths respectfully"= "No, I am not a Christian. Next question?"


5 posted on 10/18/2006 9:36:32 PM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX (Bible Thumper and Proud!))
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To: highlander_UW
"'Can you tell me this, hotshot - which religion is the truest?'

'No, I can't,' he said. 'Buddha was not a Christian but Jesus would've made a good Buddhist.'"

Ray Wylie Hubbard - Conversation with the Devil

6 posted on 10/18/2006 9:40:05 PM PDT by decal (Building a wall on the border is like treating lung cancer with cough syrup.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

So he is not a Christian.

I have a problem with Christians grandstanding like this. You don't do this in front of other people in an effort to shame the target into awkwardly accepting Christ. It's not a true conversion.

This Christian man needs his head examined.


7 posted on 10/18/2006 9:42:50 PM PDT by ConservativeMind
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To: DaveLoneRanger
I do not see what is so gauche about this.

It is utterly gauche, as an apparently invited guest, to ask such a personal question in public. Tiger's religious beliefs are his own. People who like to intrude on anyone's inner life are gauche. And rude.

8 posted on 10/18/2006 9:44:30 PM PDT by JennysCool
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To: JennysCool

*Shrug* He's a public figure.


9 posted on 10/18/2006 9:47:51 PM PDT by DaveLoneRanger (Lord, help me to be the Christian conservative that liberals fear I am.)
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To: decal
Ray Wylie Hubbard - Conversation with the Devil

Presumably your quote is supposedly the Devil's response...if so, it simply is irrational (not that I expect that rationality was your point).

10 posted on 10/18/2006 9:47:52 PM PDT by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: highlander_UW

Agreed. Probably the most tactfully he could answer the question, though. I think Rush mentioned the other day that people like Tiger don't talk about political views to avoid offending people and becoming controversial. And when you think about it, it's nice to have some people who don't seem to be one side or the other. Not moderate, just publically apolitical.


11 posted on 10/18/2006 9:49:54 PM PDT by DaveLoneRanger (Lord, help me to be the Christian conservative that liberals fear I am.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger
He's a public figure.

BS. He's a fellow human being. Questions like that are soul-personal.

The questioner was an ass.

12 posted on 10/18/2006 9:52:44 PM PDT by JennysCool
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To: DaveLoneRanger
Bob Dylan is one of the best examples.
13 posted on 10/18/2006 9:52:46 PM PDT by unspun (What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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To: JennysCool
The questioner was an ass.

I think you are being too kind.

14 posted on 10/18/2006 9:54:17 PM PDT by M. Thatcher
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To: M. Thatcher

I think you're right! :-)


15 posted on 10/18/2006 9:55:03 PM PDT by JennysCool
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To: DaveLoneRanger
Agreed. Probably the most tactfully he could answer the question, though. I think Rush mentioned the other day that people like Tiger don't talk about political views to avoid offending people and becoming controversial. And when you think about it, it's nice to have some people who don't seem to be one side or the other. Not moderate, just publically apolitical.

I agree with you...it was a very poorly done. And, for the record, I don't think Mr. Wood's response was intended to be flip or evasive. I doubt he understands what being a Christian is. He's got quite a bit of company as it's widely misunderstood.

16 posted on 10/18/2006 9:56:28 PM PDT by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: highlander_UW

He sounds like a typical NorthEastern Lib to me.

Religion is worn as an accesory.

Genuine belief in God is a view that is met with contempt in the NorthEast.

Arioch7 out.


17 posted on 10/18/2006 10:02:58 PM PDT by Arioch7
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To: JennysCool

The Nike invitee probably just lost his/her invitation to future events.. Rightfully so.


18 posted on 10/18/2006 10:09:11 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Yes I backed over the vampire, but I swear I didn't see it in my rear view mirror.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger
'My father was a Christian - of course Christianity was part of my life - but my mother is Asian and Buddhism was also part of my childhood, so I practice both faiths respectfully.' "

If you ask someone what religion they are and they start their answer with "my mother is" or "my father was", you can bet that they have no religion.

19 posted on 10/18/2006 10:17:19 PM PDT by Between the Lines (Be careful how you live your life, it may be the only gospel anyone reads.)
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To: JennysCool

Yeah, I gotta agree. I'm sure the questioner meant well, but we all know what the road to hell is paved with. Maybe next time he gets such an urge he'll bite his tongue.


20 posted on 10/18/2006 10:17:42 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (The plan was simple, like my brother-in-law Phil. But unlike Phil, this plan just might work.)
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To: Arioch7
He sounds like a typical NorthEastern Lib to me.

No, he was stating simple facts about his parents. Geez.

21 posted on 10/18/2006 10:18:15 PM PDT by M. Thatcher
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To: BipolarBob
The Nike invitee probably just lost his/her invitation to future events.. Rightfully so.

Hope so. But these paranoid days I wonder if those who ask questions like that aren't pretenders trying to make Christians look rude. I think that's an extreme possibility, given how desperate the Left is.

22 posted on 10/18/2006 10:25:07 PM PDT by JennysCool
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To: Between the Lines
Why is "supercalifragilisticexpialidocious" equivalent to "I was raised Catholic?"

They're both something to say when you don't know what to say!
23 posted on 10/18/2006 10:31:59 PM PDT by DaveLoneRanger (Lord, help me to be the Christian conservative that liberals fear I am.)
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To: ConservativeMind
I have a problem with Christians grandstanding like this. You don't do this in front of other people in an effort to shame the target into awkwardly accepting Christ. It's not a true conversion.

The fellow asking probably mixed-up his own Christian and Islamic backgrounds. Wonder if the guy was wielding his lunch knife while he asked the question.
24 posted on 10/19/2006 12:02:11 AM PDT by backtothestreets
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To: DaveLoneRanger
so I practice both faiths respectfully

I think Tiger practices another religion, Orb - god of golf, a lot more than the other two. I am sure his idea of practicing religion is a bucket of balls at the driving range. Of course, a ball and stick can take you a long way in this world, but won't get you into Heaven's clubhouse. Only Jesus hands out those kind of rewards.

25 posted on 10/19/2006 2:06:18 AM PDT by HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath (Psalm 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

I realize customs vary place to place, but I think it is rude to ask someone about their personal religion in a public gathering.


26 posted on 10/19/2006 2:11:31 AM PDT by Alfonso1000
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To: ConservativeMind
I have a problem with Christians grandstanding like this. You don't do this in front of other people in an effort to shame the target into awkwardly accepting Christ. It's not a true conversion. This Christian man needs his head examined.

Amen, bro. I have nothing against preaching, but it has its place.

It was simply downright rude for a guest to do something like that. Although I agree with previous posters that you can't be both Christian and Buddhist, Tiger handled the improper question with grace. On the other hand, I wouldn't have had a problem if he had said, "That's none of your business" or "What's it to you?"

27 posted on 10/19/2006 2:12:51 AM PDT by L.N. Smithee (Normal people would kill to save their kids. Muslim fascists raise their kids to die killing others.)
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To: Arioch7

Tiger Woods is from California.


28 posted on 10/19/2006 2:16:28 AM PDT by Alfonso1000
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To: DaveLoneRanger

My goodness, what a tacky thing to do!

Mr. Woods' response, while theological gibberish, was certainly good manners. He could also have said something on the order of, "Sure, I'll think about it."


29 posted on 10/19/2006 3:09:15 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("And now ... let the Wild Rumpus start!")
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To: highlander_UW

I verify that what you say is true.


30 posted on 10/19/2006 3:41:43 AM PDT by .30Carbine
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To: L.N. Smithee
"Although I agree with previous posters that you can't be both Christian and Buddhist"

True. The great people of the Old Testament were neither Christian nor Buddhist, but I don't hold it against them.

31 posted on 10/19/2006 3:46:37 AM PDT by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: Tax-chick

His response might have been gibberish, but it was a decent and gentle response nonetheless. It is a good example of how Christians or Buddhists might respond to an arrogant twit.


32 posted on 10/19/2006 3:49:06 AM PDT by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: Enterprise

Excellent point.


33 posted on 10/19/2006 3:50:21 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("And now ... let the Wild Rumpus start!")
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To: Enterprise
His response might have been gibberish, but it was a decent and gentle response nonetheless. It is a good example of how Christians or Buddhists might respond to an arrogant twit.

Tiger showed much more class than this a$$. Hope the Nike folks threw him out of the event. Tacky, tacky, tacky.

34 posted on 10/19/2006 4:02:50 AM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you...)
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To: JennysCool
You express the spirit of the age -

Naked women on magazine covers at the checkout line, on huge billboards next to the interstate, on nearly every television channel, on posters and in department stores and catalogs, all over the Internet, these things - and worse - discussed daily in the news, and our daughters nearly naked on public streets:
Yes, not rude, not gauche, not "personal"...

Public acknowledgment in any form whatsoever of Jesus Christ, the Only Way to God, or any symbol having to do with that Name:
No, such things are only "inner" and what is "inner" is never "outer"...

LOL - A woman's pubic parts no longer private but "art" and faith in Jesus Christ not allowed creative expression. Yes, these are the times.

It is true what is said so commonly and not fully comprehended by most:

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

The private beauty of a woman ought by nature and at any cost be kept a precious secret to all but her beloved.

The public beauty of Jesus Christ will be displayed by all who know Him, no matter what it costs. Amen.

35 posted on 10/19/2006 4:06:48 AM PDT by .30Carbine
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To: ConservativeMind
I have a problem with Christians grandstanding like this.

Why? Oh, I see. Christians aren't supposed to actually ask anyone about their faith, or actually act like they BELIEVE in that man Jesus. Are Christians in America supposed to hide their faith and go live under a rock? At least he didn't put a gun to the guy's head and force him to convert!

I thought it was a great question that took a lot of guts to ask, showed courage. Besides, Tiger Woods was given the opportunity to show he was man enough to handle it.

36 posted on 10/19/2006 4:57:48 AM PDT by Taggart_D
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To: Enterprise

"The great people of the Old Testament were neither Christian nor Buddhist..."

Not true--they were Christian. "Christ"--"Christos" is the Greek equivalent of the Hebrew "Messiah," both meaning "the anointed one;" referring in the Old Testament to the promised Savior.

The Old Testament believers looked forward in faith to the "Christ," the "Messiah." The New Testament believers looked upon Him in the flesh. Both were believers in the "Christ," the "Messiah," and thus both were "Christians."


37 posted on 10/19/2006 6:34:44 AM PDT by Fischer1483
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To: DaveLoneRanger
This is an example of the failings of "ambush evangelism." No one considered Christianity as a result of this; instead, even Christians winced at this. Here's some guy, with no established credibility, challenging Mr. Woods on a very personal topic. Why the hoo-hah should Mr. Woods listen to him?

Evangelism is more than asking about someone's personal Lord 'n Savior. Almost every person I know who converted to Christianity did so after someone with whom they had a continuing relationship introduced them not only to the propositional truths of Christianity, but also the personal realities in their lives.

Lifestyle evangelism, not ambush evangelism, is the norm.

38 posted on 10/19/2006 7:04:55 AM PDT by jude24 ("I will oppose the sword if it's not wielded well, because my enemies are men like me.")
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To: ConservativeMind
I have a problem with Christians grandstanding like this.

Matthew 6:5

39 posted on 10/19/2006 7:13:58 AM PDT by Polybius
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To: Fischer1483
"The Old Testament believers looked forward in faith to the "Christ,"

So as soon as Adam and Eve were created by God himself, people started looking forward to a Messiah to save them?

40 posted on 10/19/2006 7:32:00 AM PDT by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: Taggart_D

I'm a Christian, but that doesn't mean it is appropriate to take over an occasion in which I'm a guest to publicly confront someone's spiritual standing.

If that were true, your position would have everyone constantly asking the question of everyone they meet. Jesus never did that, nor did the Apostles. They showed their example and encouraged in private settings and in public settings they either defended someone or spoke in a situation in which people came to explicitly hear the Word.


41 posted on 10/19/2006 8:01:02 AM PDT by ConservativeMind
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To: Enterprise

"The Old Testament believers looked forward in faith to the "Christ."
Enterprise then wrote, "So as soon as Adam and Eve were created by God himself, people started looking forward to a Messiah to save them?"

Adam and Eve were created without sin, so they didn't need a Savior from sin. After the Fall into Sin, that Savior was promised (Gen. 3:15).


42 posted on 10/19/2006 8:02:12 AM PDT by Fischer1483
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To: Between the Lines

And when someone uses a public occasion to ask a very personal question that is none of their business, you can bet that they have no manners.


43 posted on 10/19/2006 8:08:18 AM PDT by linda_22003
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To: jude24

Well-spoken, sir.


44 posted on 10/19/2006 8:09:48 AM PDT by DaveLoneRanger (Lord, help me to be the Christian conservative that liberals fear I am.)
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To: jude24

In my personal experience, ambush evangelism is a sure fire way to make others avoid you, your beliefs and your church like the plague.


45 posted on 10/19/2006 8:10:12 AM PDT by najida (The internet is for kids grown up-- Where else could you have 10,000 imaginary friends?)
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To: Enterprise; Fischer1483

"Abraham believed God and it was credited to him as righteousness."


46 posted on 10/19/2006 8:10:46 AM PDT by DaveLoneRanger (Lord, help me to be the Christian conservative that liberals fear I am.)
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To: linda_22003

While I am not sure the approach used was the best in this case, I fail to see why someone's relationship with Christ should be kept to themselves. If they are truly a Christian, then it will be known by the way they live.


47 posted on 10/19/2006 8:13:00 AM PDT by jkl1122
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To: jkl1122

Yes, it will be known by the way people live, not by off-topic questions at a golf event.


48 posted on 10/19/2006 8:13:48 AM PDT by linda_22003
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To: Fischer1483

Oh ok. So after they were thrown out of the Garden of Eden, they started looking for someone to save them? I guess that makes sense. Here I am in the Garden of Eden, and life is good. I make a mistake and God throws me out. Oops, someone save me, I made a mistake! And God is not going to help!


49 posted on 10/19/2006 8:14:39 AM PDT by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger
""Abraham believed God and it was credited to him as righteousness."

What about the people after Adam and Eve, but before Abraham?

50 posted on 10/19/2006 8:15:35 AM PDT by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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