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Judaism Fulfilled (major misconceptions that many Jews have about the Catholic Church)
Ignatius Insight ^

Posted on 10/19/2006 8:01:52 PM PDT by NYer

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To: Invincibly Ignorant
Gee, didn't the OT prophets also have a thing or two to say about the lack of faith of the Hebrew people from time to time? Didn't they occasionally give God's prophets a hard time? Didn't the prophets give them a hard time occasionally, too.

I must have misunderstood.
41 posted on 10/20/2006 1:24:39 PM PDT by chesley (Republicans don't serve to win...But America does not deserve the Dhimmicrats!)
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To: chesley
The Old Testament is antisemitic, too. And anybody who would call the Israelites a "stiff-necked people" is obviously a flaming antisemite.

That was sarcasm, by the way ...

42 posted on 10/20/2006 1:31:06 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard




Seemed that way to me, too :)







43 posted on 10/20/2006 1:39:42 PM PDT by chesley (Republicans don't serve to win...But America does not deserve the Dhimmicrats!)
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To: x_plus_one
I have experience that went the opposite direction: I was born Catholic, attended Catholic schools, memorized the catechism, stuck thorns in my thumbs for penance while hoping the Virgin Mary would appear to me, and listened to a lot of hatred drivel doled out by the school Monseigneur who molested me for two years. I then attended a Protestant boarding school with 4 years of bible study; I wrote my thesis as a senior on why I wanted to become Jewish ( I considered Judaism beautiful and pure.) I converted by mickvah, married a wonderful Jewish boy, and have been delighted with the symbolism, spirituality, meaning, and intelligence the religion has given my life. Thanks, I don't accept Jesus as my personal trainer.
44 posted on 10/20/2006 1:42:06 PM PDT by gallaxyglue (Have we lost our civilization as we know it?)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; NYer

"There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus." -- Galatians 3:28"



The Jews do have the greater honor...

"Then what advantage has the Jew? Or what is the value of circumcision? Much in every way. To begin with, the Jews were entrusted with the oracles of God." - Rom 3

"For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek" - Rom 1

"But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:" - Rom 2


45 posted on 10/20/2006 2:46:02 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: gallaxyglue

"Thanks, I don't accept Jesus as my personal trainer."

Where do you disagree with his teachings?


46 posted on 10/20/2006 2:48:12 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: gallaxyglue
memorized the catechism, stuck thorns in my thumbs for penance while hoping the Virgin Mary would appear to me

Where in the catechism did it tell you to stick thorns in your thumbs for penance while hoping the Virgin Mary would appear to you?

47 posted on 10/20/2006 2:54:43 PM PDT by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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To: Invincibly Ignorant
Oh, do please tell about those non-Jews that wrote the books of the New Testament. Name names. You're looking pretty silly from where I sit, but go for it. Provide evidence to support your names.

And I'm not talking about those who translated the books; I'm talking about the scrolls.

48 posted on 10/20/2006 3:02:01 PM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: gallaxyglue

I am so sorry to hear that you had such a bad experience with individuals that were suppose to be following and guiding in Christ's footsteps..There are many sheeps in wolves clothing unforunately.

Judiasm is a beautiful faith which Jesus Christ comes from...


49 posted on 10/20/2006 3:26:43 PM PDT by TaraP
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To: All

.Sorry I meant Wolves in Sheep's Clothing!


50 posted on 10/20/2006 3:28:46 PM PDT by TaraP
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; PetroniusMaximus
What greater honor could be accorded to the Jewish race than to say that they alone, among all the peoples of the earth, are related by blood to the incarnate God?
"There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus." -- Galatians 3:28

He was probably referring to Christ's genealogy ...

Matthew
Chapter 1
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1 2 The book of the genealogy of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.
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Abraham became the father of Isaac, Isaac the father of Jacob, Jacob the father of Judah and his brothers.
3
Judah became the father of Perez and Zerah, whose mother was Tamar. Perez became the father of Hezron, Hezron the father of Ram,
4
Ram the father of Amminadab. Amminadab became the father of Nahshon, Nahshon the father of Salmon,
5
Salmon the father of Boaz, whose mother was Rahab. Boaz became the father of Obed, whose mother was Ruth. Obed became the father of Jesse,
6
Jesse the father of David the king. David became the father of Solomon, whose mother had been the wife of Uriah.
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3 Solomon became the father of Rehoboam, Rehoboam the father of Abijah, Abijah the father of Asaph.
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Asaph became the father of Jehoshaphat, Jehoshaphat the father of Joram, Joram the father of Uzziah.
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Uzziah became the father of Jotham, Jotham the father of Ahaz, Ahaz the father of Hezekiah.
10
Hezekiah became the father of Manasseh, Manasseh the father of Amos, 4 Amos the father of Josiah.
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Josiah became the father of Jechoniah and his brothers at the time of the Babylonian exile.
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After the Babylonian exile, Jechoniah became the father of Shealtiel, Shealtiel the father of Zerubbabel,
13
Zerubbabel the father of Abiud. Abiud became the father of Eliakim, Eliakim the father of Azor,
14
Azor the father of Zadok. Zadok became the father of Achim, Achim the father of Eliud,
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Eliud the father of Eleazar. Eleazar became the father of Matthan, Matthan the father of Jacob,
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Jacob the father of Joseph, the husband of Mary. Of her was born Jesus who is called the Messiah.
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Thus the total number of generations from Abraham to David is fourteen generations; from David to the Babylonian exile, fourteen generations; from the Babylonian exile to the Messiah, fourteen generations. 5


"The Lord says that his covenant with David stands firm and he will make his posterity endure forever and his throne as the days of heaven" (Ps. 89:29-30).


51 posted on 10/20/2006 5:04:12 PM PDT by NYer
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To: FourtySeven
Something to consider ordering.

His book, Salvation is From the Jews? I am not a great reader but could not put down his book. It is filled with so many bookmarks that it now bows like an accordion. Enjoy it!

52 posted on 10/20/2006 5:14:23 PM PDT by NYer
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To: PetroniusMaximus
But, also it must not be forgotten:

Rom 2:9 Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;

The Jewish people, from whatever blessed position they hold, must remember:

Luk 12:48. . .For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.

53 posted on 10/20/2006 5:19:34 PM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: gallaxyglue
Thanks, I don't accept Jesus as my personal trainer.

It's been awhile since Jesus was physically taking on disciples, so you can't have Jesus in body, but you can have His teachings and parables, and be your own trainer by living your life by that template.

You don't even have to tell anyone.

54 posted on 10/20/2006 5:28:54 PM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: ArrogantBustard
The Old Testament is antisemitic, too. And anybody who would call the Israelites a "stiff-necked people" is obviously a flaming antisemite.

In house quarrel Mr. Arrogant (what part of turning the other cheek is this handle?). None of your beeswax. you shouldn't roll like that.

55 posted on 10/20/2006 9:22:03 PM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: William Terrell
Oh, do please tell about those non-Jews that wrote the books of the New Testament. Name names. You're looking pretty silly from where I sit, but go for it. Provide evidence to support your names.

Dunno, ask your Catholic friends. They believe they've been tinkered with as well. And their the ones who canonized it. Sheesh, this is comon knowledge. NT 101.

56 posted on 10/20/2006 9:24:15 PM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: chesley
Gee, didn't the OT prophets also have a thing or two to say about the lack of faith of the Hebrew people from time to time?

Gee I think they did. But I doubt they expected you to interfere in their in-house squabbles. Isn't it written in your NT writings to remove the speck out of your own eye before gloating about Jewish imperfections? For being alledgedly "grafted" in you certainly aren't shy about putting your spin on HEBREW writings.

57 posted on 10/20/2006 9:33:23 PM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: William Terrell
And I'm not talking about those who translated the books; I'm talking about the scrolls.

I'd like to see these scrolls. Do you have a copy of the originals? I thought not.

58 posted on 10/20/2006 9:34:34 PM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: Invincibly Ignorant
If you believe that there were non-Jewish writers of the Gospels, Acts and the letters, name them. You must base your belief on some kind of hard evidence. It's an expraordinary claim so it needs extraordinary evidence.

59 posted on 10/20/2006 10:04:16 PM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: Invincibly Ignorant
Do you think the scrolls don't exist?

60 posted on 10/20/2006 10:06:00 PM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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