The word "pope" is defined as "the head of the Roman Catholic Church." Peter was the first temporal leader of Catholics. There is an unbroken succsession of popes following him.
There is a lot of debate about that outside of Rome.
Now, if some Christians want to claim that there was nothing special about Peter, compared to other Apostles, then go for it.
I believe all the apostles were special.
Peter was the first temporal leader of Catholics, the temporal leader of Catholics is called the pope, therfore Peter was the first pope.
Some do say that. Based strictly on biblical accounts though I would have to disagree.
In case you missed it, the whole issue is being researched over here
No matter the conclusion of the writer of this article,he has demonstrated that there is much documentation of Peter's presence in Rome even if only sporadically. Why don't you ping some of your nonCatholic friends from the other thread over here before they hurt themselves chortling and high fiving each other. I am afraid they might pull a muscle or break a finger.
Douglas,be kind of careful how much weight you give the later scripture scholars. Since the enlightenment when the men who would be gods dedicated their efforts to purge the world of crowns and tiaras or monarchs and popes,we have seen waves of concerted efforts to destroy any God given authorities. Translating that objective to contemporary terms,they are now taking aim at sovereign nations and Christianity.
One of the tools of the enemy is to put out lots of false information or disinformation. Another is to infiltrate the organizations themselves and destroy them from within. I view everything written since the end of WWII,which incidentally,did not accomplish the dissolution of Christianity or nation states,with hard,cold eyes. I think their disappointment put them into high gear.
In these perilous times,I try to hold my tongue and my fingers and just keep striving to seek,speak and act in Truth and pray always.
Good seeing you again!
Why would you post such hate filled drivel here?
Do you really think that the Catholic Church contains "ELEMENTS OF THE PAGAN BABYLONIAN MYSTERY RELIGION?" (not my emphasis)
Do you really think that the Catholic faith is "A COUNTERFEIT OF CHRISTIANITY?" (Not my emphasis)
Do you really think that the Catholic Church is "Synagogue of Satan" as this website declares?
Do you really think that the Papacy is the anti-Christ, as this website declares?
Do you really believe that the cross is the mark of Cain, as this website declares?
Do you really believe that a cross or crucifix is the mark of the beast" " This "mark" could also refer to a sculptured figure or figurine -- such as a CROSS, or a small crucifix! In other words, it IDENTIFIES ONE AS BELONG TO CAIN and his modern representatives -- the ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH!" That's what this website screeches.
Do you really believe this: "The third and last of these three enemies of the Kingdom of YEHOVAH God is Catholicism"?
So the faith that printed the Bible for us is one of the three greatest enemies of God? So the faith that led Mother Teresa to care for the impoverished through out the world was one of the three enemies of the Kingdom of God? So the faith that has led the Catholic Church to stand alone in its unwavering defense of God's gift of life, from the moment of conception to the moment of natural death, is one of the three greatest enemies of God? So the faith that has led the establishment of schools, orphanages and hospitals through out the world, is one of the three greatest enemies of God? So the faith the produced the Sistine Chapel, Notre Dame and the works of Palestrina and Byrd is one of the three greatest enemies of God? So the faith that gave us Project Rachel is one of the three greatest enemies of God?
As of 1994:
"The Church run 5,478 Hospitals with 4,500 million people treated, 14,806 Dispensaries, 793 Leprosariums, 27,281 Homes for the aged homeless and handicapped, 7,102 Orphanages, 9,293 Nurseries, 97,823 Special Centers for Social Services, 8,216 Matrimonial Advice Centers... and practically "billions" attended in their "homes", for sickness, aged, children, emotional problems, marriages, drugs, alcohol...
- The Catholic Church in 1992 run 52,828 kindergartens with an attendance of 5 million students, 80,612 Elementary and Primary Schools with 25 million students, 31,711 Secondary Schools with 13 million students, and 2 million students in its 6,400 Colleges and Universities.
- In the USA, in 1993, the Church run 606 hospitals with 54 million patients treated; 1,592 Specialized Homes; 188 Orphanages took care of 75,890 children; 2,115 Centers for Social Services helped 20 million people... it run 7,136 Elementary Schools with 2 million students, 1,248 High Schools with 603,679 students, 227 Colleges and Universities with 643,127 students, 96 Schools for Handicapped with 8,764 students (The Official Catholic Directory, 1994)." This is the work of one of the three greatest enemies of God?
Should I go on?
Did you bring this here to attack your fellow Christians? To hurt them? To insult them? Or do you really believe what this website proclaims?
posted on 10/27/2006 11:36:43 PM PDT
(Good heavens! What women these Christians have-----Libanus)
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