Skip to comments.Catholic church in Detroit becomes mosque (did we not see this coming!)
Posted on 10/29/2006 3:43:31 PM PST by NYer
At least it was bought and paid for legally. Not a war trophy that is then converted.
In that vein, I would like to thank ALL of you who have included my parish, St. Ann's Maronite Catholic Church and my pastor, Abouna Elie Kairouz, in your prayers. As you know, Father purchased an old Methodist/Episcopal Church in nearby Watervliet, several years ago, with the intent of relocating his congregation there. The church was in a poor state of disrepair and required extensive restoration. Moreover, being a Protestant Church, there is no Sancturary. That entails reconfiguring the interior to conform to our Catholic faith.
Three years ago, we began the process of having the future church recognized as an historic landmark. It qualified and was so declared in December 2005. That qualified us for matching state grants and we began the process in March of this year. The grant forms are quite detailed and must match a theme. This year's theme focused on the Hudson River and Erie Canalways. Undaunted, we completed the forms and hand delivered them at the midnight hour.
80+ applicants applied for these matching grants. From that number, 37 met the state qualifications. From that number, only 6 grants were awarded and we were one of them!
Thank you ALL for your prayers!
Thank you, Lord Jesus!
I think I'd rather see our churches demolished than turned into mosques.
"I think I'd rather see our churches demolished than turned into mosques."
It's yet more "Muslim land" that they believe will always belong to them no matter who owns it later. Can someone please tell me WHY our leaders have decided we need more Muslims in this country - to the extent that they actively import same?
That's my feeling, too. I wish the dioceses wouldn't sell these churches for mosques. Tear them down and sell the land.
The Archdiocese should have had an ounce of mission-mindedness and brought over Eastern Catholic clergy and nuns from India to take this church and EVANGELIZE this muslim community!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There is even an order of nuns in Bangladesh I know of -- MAN THIS MAKES ME MAD!!!!!!!!!
And finally tear the church down to the ground and sell the land. Don't let the buildings become the haunt of the enemies of Christ Jesus!
Congratulations! I'm so happy for you, your pastor, and the congregation.
Our Lady Help of Christians!
Much like the last episode of Little House on the Prairie.
Your fine post certainly is the opposite of this other Detroit story. God bless your priest and parish!
This really seems sacriligious to me. "Our Lady Help of Christians," no less! I can't think of a worse title for Our Lady to be converted to a mosque. Who is the bishop? (or archbishop?) A major statement has been made here, but I'm not sure what it is. All I can hear is "nyah, nyah, nyah" from the other side ...
"I wish the dioceses wouldn't sell these churches for mosques. Tear them down and sell the land."
With all the environmental considerations now, it costs an enormous amount of money to tear down a building the size of a large church. The property is obviously much more valuable to the Muslims with a church on it. The dioceses are very much in need to money due to all the lawsuits regarding pedophile priests.
So, all this boils down to is money. I'm opposed to what the diocese did, but I understand why they did it.
This is a mistake. But no one will realize how big a mistake it is until the little Bangladesh children grow up having been schooled in Arabic and the Koran.
Give it, say five to ten years and there will be little Bangladesh boys with bomb-vests terrorizing the city. And little girls "married" to men old enough to be their fathers.
God help us and help the USA.
Congratulations! You were my all-night prayer intention more than once. One of those saints with a lot of kids was obviously listening ... maybe a Lebanese mother we won't hear about until we get to Heaven :-).
Thank you so much for your prayers!!!
As you can imagine, whenever the State is involved, things get quite complicated but ... these are matching, reimbursable grants designated for a specific purpose ... the restoration of the stained glass windows and exterior masonry. They will boost the timeline for the future Dedication and Consecration of this Church as a Catholic Church. The state will not fund anything of a religious nature. Mercifully, the stained glass windows are considered an 'art form' and the historian who examined them labeled them an 'important collection', thus qualifying them for the grant award.
We still have a long way to go but this is a major injection of monies. Your prayers are still needed.
Thank you so much!!
The Lebanese love children and produce some absolutely beautiful offspring. They (the Lebanese) are quite religious and bring their children not only to Mass but also to devotions, regardless of how young they are. Father has thanked our patroness, St. Ann, for interceding on our behalf.
Well, it's true that it's all about money. Even so, I wish they had for once thought about the symbolic implications of what they were doing. Of course, in Maida's diocese, it seems like awhile since anybody in the clergy has thought about the implications of anything they did.
I'm with you on that. Whether they steal them or pay for them, it is still a satanic cult!
That is an excellent response!
I struggle with taking the young children to Mass, not to mention optional devotions. People can be so cranky about babies and preschoolers, and right now, we have to take James to the bathroom every half hour, Or Else. I took Anoreth and Vlad to a Greek Orthodox Lenten devotion this year, and I have to say they were very polite about Vlad's rather noisy grumps. (He's not as bad now.)
During Mass for one of the Marian holidays last year, Patrick Zotted Father Hawker with a beeber-like device; and Bill, who was serving at the altar, turned puce and hyperventilated; and Tom fell into hysterics, and the whole congregation had to sit down while Father recovered himself. People just aren't used to kids anymore!
I'm sorry, but I'm just an in your face Irish redhead who obviously belongs on the wrong side of the tracks.
I assume they will just do their terrorism in other cities.
One reason we're in our present parish, liturgically flighty as it is, is that they've generally been so positive about our family. The older people, who often had large families themselves, are especially kind. In the spring, after Vlad was born, an old gentleman I only knew by sight put an envelope in my pocket after a holy day Mass (Annunciation, I guess), and when I got home, I found it was a check for $500.
I hope to set an example for other couples who are afraid of having children. Sometimes I wish I could say, "What do you mean, you can't afford more than two children? I know what you paid for your house!" but my mother would teleport over here and whomp me upside the head with a frying pan!
(p.s., I do miss your mother here - rather like mine, if Old Tax-lady had been Catholic!)
Uh, that would be the United States Congress. Please let them know how you feel about it when you vote.
Ain't that the truth. The money from the sale of the church to Muslims, is reminiscent of the 30 pieces of silver paid to Judas, multiplied by many times over.
It feels really strange when we travel, and go to Mass where there aren't scads (or sometimes any) little kids around. Our regular parish seems to have concentrated all of the serious Catholics in Nashville. Most of them have a least one baby, and practically every family has multiple kids. It doesn't sound or feel like "church" anymore without lots of kids around.
(We went to lunch with another family after church today ... we said, "We're the 'Campion' party, we have a reservation for a party of 13." And that's just two families, not 4! If we'd taken another family from the same parish we know, we could have asked for "a table for 24" ... oh, except their eldest son is at college and their youngest is too tiny to sit at the table, so I guess it would have been just 22. :-))
There's a boom of some kind in our parish, because the RE program has doubled in size since we moved here. People are having babies all over the subdivision, too.
Did you see this one?
I grew up around mostly small families, so I understand people's being a bit shocked at our eight - my parents are rather stuned, too :-).
I know there are lots of reasons why people might have only a couple of children, and it's none of my business unless they make it my business, by expecting me to believe in the "can't afford more" line! Do they think we're Rockefellers, or something?
The older, traditional structures could possibly be deconstructed and shipped to replace some of the hideous Catholic architechture begotten in the 70's.
That is good news,...continued blessings on you and yours.
The bishops are selling our churches to muzzies and using the money to pay off homo sex claims. SICKING! At least have the common decency to tear them down, losers!