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Why the world wants believers to shut up and why we mustn't
Biblical Christianity bibchr.blogspot.com ^ | Thursday, November 25, 2004 | Dan Phillips

Posted on 11/11/2006 3:13:22 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past

Why the world wants believers to shut up — and why we mustn't

The blessing of upright men exalts a town, But by the mouth of wicked men it is torn down (Proverbs 11:11, my translation)

The interpretive key to understanding many of the Proverbs from 10:1 and on is in knowing the nature of Hebrew poetry, which does not tend to rhyme sounds as much as thoughts. That "rhyming" can be synonymous, or it can advance or complete the thought, or it can be contrastive. In this case, the "but" clues us that it is contrastive. Solomon is giving us two contrasting pictures.

That will help us understand each line. "The blessing of upright men," itself, could mean the blessing they receive, the blessing that they themselves are, or the blessing that they speak. Any of these could be true, if the line stood by itself.

But the second line is not so ambiguous: "by the mouth of wicked men [the town] is torn down." That clearly indicates what they speak, write, communicate. As it is a contrast to the first line, then, we understand that "the blessing of upright men" is what they say, write, communicate. Upright men exalt a town by the blessing communicated in what they say; wicked men tear it down by what they say.

Seen this way, the verse has many echoes in Proverbs and elsewhere. In Proverbs 10:11, we read that "The mouth of the righteous is a fountain of life, but the mouth of the wicked conceals violence." Again, in Proverbs 13:14a, "The teaching of the wise is a fountain of life." By contrast, "With his mouth the godless man would destroy his neighbor" (Proverbs 11:9).

The Bible is very clear on the power that resides in the tongue, seen as the organ of communication. "Death and life are in the power of the tongue," we are told (Proverbs 18:21a). I don't think anyone has ever crystallized the matter as forcefully as James did, in the third chapter of his letter:

3 If we put bits into the mouths of horses so that they obey us, we guide their whole bodies as well. 4 Look at the ships also: though they are so large and are driven by strong winds, they are guided by a very small rudder wherever the will of the pilot directs. 5 So also the tongue is a small member, yet it boasts of great things. How great a forest is set ablaze by such a small fire! 6 And the tongue is a fire, a world of unrighteousness. The tongue is set among our members, staining the whole body, setting on fire the entire course of life, and set on fire by hell. 7 For every kind of beast and bird, of reptile and sea creature, can be tamed and has been tamed by mankind, 8 but no human being can tame the tongue. It is a restless evil, full of deadly poison. 9 With it we bless our Lord and Father, and with it we curse people who are made in the likeness of God. 10 From the same mouth come blessing and cursing. My brothers, these things ought not to be so. (Cf. James 3:1-11)

What does any of that have to do with Christians shutting up?

Since "evangelicals" (whatever that means, anymore) and generally the religious had such an impact in the last election — thank God! — there has been an uptick in the noise on the role of "the religious" in society. Some well-known Christian leaders have advocated that Christians not be politically involved, but focus instead on evangelism. Others clearly advocate a Christian presence in the affairs of state.

Now, let me say first and clearly that the very best thing a Christian can do for the health of his nation is to grow in godliness, and to disciple others to Christ for all he's worth. I know that without a doubt, because that is a natural outgrowth of what Jesus singles out as the two greatest commandments: love God with everything we've got (which necessarily will mean growing in godliness), and love our neighboras as ourselves (which necessarily will mean pointing those who do not know Him to the Lord Jesus; Matthew 22:36-40).

But by this same token, this will also necessarily mean Christian involvement in politics.


TOPICS: Activism; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: christians; gospel; politics; wisdom
Be sure to read the rest of it here. There are wise and godly men left in the world. I needed this encouragement.
1 posted on 11/11/2006 3:13:24 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
If you wrote that - kudos.

Interesting and thought provoking.

Long have I ruminated on what appears to be an obvious fact. For many of us Christians we consider it our duty to witness yet this act of witnessing is frequently what stirs up the nastiest form of hate against Christians and fuels much of the attempt to remove Christian thought from the public square.

That and a distaste of anything decent and moral which I have occasionally observed in some far leftists.

2 posted on 11/11/2006 3:25:17 PM PST by Condor 63
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To: Condor 63

I didn't write it. I could have worked for the rest of my life and never produced such eloquence and organization. Um...er, no....it's what I was going to write except he beat me to it.


3 posted on 11/11/2006 3:34:26 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

---Told to shut up, we must respond, "Thanks for the suggestion, but no." ----

Exactly.


4 posted on 11/11/2006 3:40:51 PM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
Um...er, no....it's what I was going to write except he beat me to it.

Well, let me put it another way. IMO no religious person worth his or her salt has never at least pondered it.

I would also go so far as to say any religious person that answers the call to "witness" should at least stop long enough to seriously think about what it means, the best way to do it and what possible effect good or bad it has on the religion in question and people both saved and unsaved.

It is a very interesting topic - and one that I've seen precious few attempt to tackle.

5 posted on 11/11/2006 3:44:08 PM PST by Condor 63
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

Great truths.

Thanks.


6 posted on 11/11/2006 3:53:15 PM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
---Told to shut up, we must respond, "Thanks for the suggestion, but no." ----

Yeah, I'm glad you pulled that out. The calm in that is so perfect.

7 posted on 11/11/2006 3:56:55 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
There are wise and godly men left in the world.

He's also a denizen of Free Republic.

8 posted on 11/11/2006 4:08:20 PM PST by Lee N. Field
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To: Lee N. Field

Really? That's cool.


9 posted on 11/11/2006 4:23:59 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: conservativeimage.com; cripplecreek; My2Cents; xcamel; ladyinred; unspun; roses of sharon; ...
Ping!

Thought you all might enjoy this article.

10 posted on 11/11/2006 4:28:18 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

bfl


11 posted on 11/11/2006 4:37:30 PM PST by oyez (Why is it that egalitarians act like royalty?)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
I needed this encouragement.

Me too. Many thanks for the ping.

12 posted on 11/11/2006 4:44:08 PM PST by HoosierHawk
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

Thanks!


13 posted on 11/11/2006 4:45:25 PM PST by TommyDale (Iran President Ahmadinejad is shorter than Tom Daschle!)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

Thanks..


14 posted on 11/11/2006 4:52:14 PM PST by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past; BibChr

This is from our own BibChr, isn't it?

(Howya, FRiend!)


15 posted on 11/11/2006 6:21:05 PM PST by Tax-chick (I voted for a dead man.)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

Thank you.

Marker for self to read later.


16 posted on 11/11/2006 7:36:25 PM PST by JockoManning (http://www.cyberhymnal.org/htm/j/u/justasam.htm?40)
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To: Tax-chick; The Ghost of FReepers Past
Thanks. Yep, that's-a me. Now invading the internet from two directions. (Well, three, counting FR!)

Dan
Biblical Christianity BLOG
Pyromaniacs

17 posted on 11/11/2006 8:22:11 PM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: BibChr; The Ghost of FReepers Past; Quix
The article brings together appropriate teachings of God that apply in the same direction. I'm so glad it was posted here, and grateful to read it at your blog, Dan. Good work, and thank you!

I was in Matthew 24 this morning, specifically verses 8 and 9. From my notes, here is a reminder that I think walked out in front of your thesis in '04, but now walks right beside us:

Deception...wars and rumor of wars...
nation against nation and kingdom against kingdom...
famines, pestilences, and earthquakes...

"All these are the beginning of sorrows (birth pangs).

"Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and kill you, and
YOU WILL BE HATED BY ALL NATIONS for My Name's sake."


18 posted on 11/12/2006 1:34:52 AM PST by .30Carbine (Do not lose heart; endure. Don't let your love grow cold.)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
Excellent read. For example: echos something I just posted in another forum: Since the guy I was responding to is a premillenial pietist, I had to also add the following choice words:
19 posted on 11/12/2006 2:06:43 AM PST by TomSmedley (Calvinist, optimist, home schooling dad, exuberant husband, technical writer)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past; 4CJ
Question: Which act of terror will the mythical "evangelical Christian" "militia" perform before Mrs. Clinton inauguration in 2008?

You got the I.Q., 4cj, but someone else has the memory LOL!

20 posted on 11/12/2006 4:15:11 AM PST by 100-Fold_Return (In Prisons Tattletales Are the Same as Child-Molesters...hmm)
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To: BibChr

Good on ya! I always find your thoughts edifying.


21 posted on 11/12/2006 4:32:38 AM PST by Tax-chick (I voted for a dead man.)
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To: BibChr
Great job! I hope you don't mind I posted it here. I knew your name was Dan, but I had no idea you were that Dan.

We love the lost by sharing all of God's truths with them everywhere they apply. We don't love them by being the number one manufacturer of fig leaves so they can cover up their nakedness before God.

Ps. 119:97-100 O how I love Your law! It is my meditation all the day.
Your commandments make me wiser than my enemies, For they are ever mine. I have more insight than all my teachers, For Your testimonies are my meditation.
I understand more than the aged, Because I have observed Your precepts.

It's God's wisdom, not ours. While it is true that God's enemies are our mission field, that doesn't mean we have to help them hide from God's truth.

Eek....gotta run.

22 posted on 11/12/2006 8:22:51 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

"Mind" you pointing a few more readers my way? Heavens, no. Thanks!

It is funny, though, I have been pinged to a few threads of my essays, where I had the impression that no one knew that I was me.

Pity blog essays are in a bit of a ghetto here, though.


23 posted on 11/12/2006 8:33:51 AM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: .30Carbine

INDEED, INDEED,

THANKS.


24 posted on 11/12/2006 12:38:13 PM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

Bump that!


25 posted on 11/13/2006 12:37:10 AM PST by .30Carbine (I miss you, Countyline)
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To: Condor 63
"I would also go so far as to say any religious person that answers the call to "witness" should at least stop long enough to seriously think about what it means, the best way to do it and what possible effect good or bad it has on the religion in question and people both saved and unsaved."

I agree with the general gist of what you are saying, however all Christians are called to preach the Gospel.

Mark 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

The word for preach, kerusso, means to proclaim openly. To proclaim means to speak. Too many people, think if they just live according to the teachings of Christ that that is good enough. It is not.

I think people avoid proclaiming/witnessing/preaching Jesus, because they don't want the attention, or don't want to give a bad response to a question. The thing is that no one is perfect or has all the answers to peoples question, except for Jesus.

When people point out my sins when I'm proclaiming Jesus, it helps me to bring those sins under examination and it helps them see that Jesus isn't seeking perfect people. As to not knowing the answers, just promise to look into it and get back with them (then do that).

As to giving bad or imperfect responses, always point them to the Gospel, for it is through the Gospel that the Holy Spirit can work on their soul.

People can't believe without the Holy Spirit, they can't be convicted by the Holy Spirit unless they hear the Word of God, and the can't hear the word of God unless someone tells (preaches) them.

Rom 10:13-15a For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
And how shall they preach, except they be sent?


Sincerely
26 posted on 11/13/2006 6:58:26 AM PST by ScubieNuc
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To: 100-Fold_Return
Question: Which act of terror will the mythical "evangelical Christian" "militia" perform before Mrs. Clinton inauguration in 2008?

Doesn't matter. They'll pull a Reichstag fire if they have to, if nothing else comes up. If you pay attention, you can already see the scapegoating starting.

27 posted on 11/21/2006 1:26:36 PM PST by Lee N. Field
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