Why Am I Catholic?

Veritas ^ | C. Therese Benoit

[papertyger]

BTW, is refering to one who steals as "thief" still considered ad hominem?

[adiaireton8]

'Evidence' in its broader sense includes reasons, regardless of the persuasiveness of those reasons. If you think the assertion is false, then simply state that it "begs the question". I suspect that's what you were trying to say when you said "non sequitur".

-A8

[papertyger]

'Evidence' in its broader sense includes reasons, regardless of the persuasiveness of those reasons.

To what "reason" are you refering? How does it differ from gratuitous assertion?

If you think the assertion is false, then simply state that it "begs the question". I suspect that's what you were trying to say when you said "non sequitur".

I don't think the assertion is false. I think it answers a question I did not ask.

What would you call it if I asked for your phone number, and you gave me a "home team" cheer?

[adiaireton8]

It depends on the context. If a thief refutes your argument, and you respond by saying "You are a thief", that's an ad hominem. It is an ad hominem *fallacy* because it is a response that attacks the person as a way of undermining the person's comments about an argument, instead of refuting the person's comments. When the context is not a discussion about some [non-indexical] claim or argument, then predicating 'thief' of someone is not necessarily an ad hominem fallacy.

-A8

[adiaireton8]

To what "reason" are you refering?

"Because it's true." (from post #24)

How does it differ from gratuitous assertion?

An assertion is a communicative act. A reason is a logical premise. A reason can be asserted, but not every assertion is a reason. What you really want to say instead of "gratituous assertion" is "unsupported" or "question-begging" reason.

I don't think the assertion is false. I think it answers a question I did not ask.

I thought your question was: "how about giving me the condensed version?" (post #11) The condensed version is an answer to the question: "Why should I be Catholic?" (i.e. the title of this thread). And in #24 murphE gave you the condensed version: "Because it's true". But perhaps your question in (#11) has been misunderstood.

-A8

[livius]

LOL! Party hearty, fisheaters!

[papertyger]

The condensed version is an answer to the question: "Why should I be Catholic?" (i.e. the title of this thread). And in #24 murphE gave you the condensed version: "Because it's true". But perhaps your question in (#11) has been misunderstood. -A8

There's the disconnect. My question was for condensation of " Perhaps this conversion story (link) will put it all into focus," not "why be Catholic."

[adiaireton8]

The weaknesses of electronic communication!! Glad we got that cleared up. :-)

-A8

[papertyger]

An assertion is a communicative act. A reason is a logical premise. A reason can be asserted, but not every assertion is a reason.

Doesn't the word "because" denote a chain of reasoning by definiton?

[papertyger]

The weaknesses of electronic communication!! Glad we got that cleared up. :-)

The weakness in no small part is my vanity. Sorry, FRiend.

[adiaireton8]

Doesn't the word "because" denote a chain of reasoning by definiton?

Not necessarily; it can denote a causal relation.

-A8

[adiaireton8]

I appreciate your humility.

-A8

[mockingbyrd]

"You do know this is a cartoon?"

Ah but we can all dream.....;)

[ladyinred]

LOL!

[Mrs. Don-o]

Well, I'm a 21st Century American like yourself, with all the cultural limitations that entails: distant from the richness of the High Middle Ages, and even more distant from a Patristic or Biblical sensibility.

I don't find that all Marian devotions appeal to me emotionally or aesthetically. I have had to ponder a lot, sometimes in puzzlement, and for years; in fact, quite often when I pray the Rosary I ask the Holy Spirit to help me to better understand and grasp these beautiful and mysterious things.

But if "my life, my sweetness and my hope" distracts you to the point where you're irritated and disturbed, by all means choose some other text. Fr. Benedict Groechel says, "Pray as you can, not as you can't." Amen to that!

[SaltyJoe]

Why am I Catholic?

Well, to be honest, Catholic women are better.

Yep, starting with the Virgin Mary and following on to my mom...and hopefully a wife one day.

Many are attracted to the Faith because of another's life of Holiness.

Hmmm, I wonder how many converts came from being more than merely sexually attracted to a spiritual mate? I'll be the Angels keep count...using Rosary beads, of course.