Posted on 11/27/2006 6:58:00 PM PST by Ottofire
You and jo kus have "chosen the better part" by removing yourselves from the discussion.
It so often becomes useless tedium to contimue.
Until next time.
ROE
The term "catholic" is a generic one referring to a church that is everywhere that believers in the Gospel are. Throughout history and even today people refer to the true church as being "catholic" meaning "universal" but not "Catholic" meaning centered in Vatican City in Rome and its Pontifex Maximus.
Constantine and his successors capitolized on the generic term "catholic" to make it into a proper noun for the Church of Rome and in so doing changed the meaning of the original word. The Church of Rome may have become universal throughout the Roman Empire by Constantine's decree, but it was not universal throughout the lands outside of his reach.
And when was the first bishop in Rome called by the name "Pontiff", before Pontifex Maximus Constantine or after his death? Not until the 40 years after his death.
When they bid you adieu.....and include a prayer for you.....it generally means you've won the debate. In this particular case.....hands down!
So that's how they perform the Last Rites on these threads. My life on this thread is over --- I pass on to New Life on another thread. Amen
Before you both get proud and get all puffed up, consider this... What it means is that we understand that prayer moves hearts better then words ever can.Dear friend.
This is NOT about winning debates!
I wish you both a blessed evening.
Peace in Christ
Uh Oh.....too late! LOL
Just kidding....and thank you for the sentiment. Please have a wonderful evening yourself.
Exactly correct.
Regards
| Reading | A treatise against the heresies, by St Irenaeus |
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| The Lord, coming into his own creation in visible form, was sustained by his own creation which he himself sustains in being. His obedience on the tree of the cross reversed the disobedience at the tree in Eden; the good news of the truth announced by an angel to Mary, a virgin subject to a husband, undid the evil lie that seduced Eve, a virgin espoused to a husband. As Eve was seduced by the word of an angel and so fled from God after disobeying his word, Mary in her turn was given the good news by the word of an angel, and bore God in obedience to his word. As Eve was seduced into disobedience to God, so Mary was persuaded into obedience to God; thus the Virgin Mary became the advocate of the virgin Eve. Christ gathered all things into one, by gathering them into himself. He declared war against our enemy, crushed him who at the beginning had taken us captive in Adam, and trampled on his head, in accordance with God’s words to the serpent in Genesis: I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her seed; he shall lie in wait for your head, and you shall lie in wait for his heel. The one lying in wait for the serpent’s head is the one who was born in the likeness of Adam from the woman, the Virgin. This is the seed spoken of by Paul in the letter to the Galatians: The law of works was in force until the seed should come to whom the- promise was made. He shows this even more clearly in the same letter when he says: When the fullness of time had come, God sent his Son, born of a woman. The enemy would not have been defeated fairly if his vanquisher had not been born of a woman, because it was through a woman that he had gained mastery over man in the beginning, and set himself up as man’s adversary. That is why the Lord proclaims himself the Son of Man, the one who renews in himself that first man from whom the race born of woman was formed; as by a man’s defeat our race fell into the bondage of death, so by a man’s victory we were to rise again to life. |
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