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The 'Synagogue of Satan' (Are Traditionalist Catholics an anti-Semitic threat?
SPL Center ^ | Winter 2007 | Mark Potok

Posted on 01/18/2007 6:42:00 AM PST by NYer

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To: BlackElk

I think too much is read into the term "perfidious." It simply means faithless, and can be just as easily applied to pagans and infidels. In this case, it is a cognitive translation from the Latin, which is not meant to be as perjorative, not simply a statement of fact. It does not have the same import as it would when applied to a forger or double-agent.


41 posted on 01/20/2007 12:00:40 PM PST by sittnick (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: BlackElk
Mark Potok, in any event, does not display as sophisticated an understanding of the nuances in Catholicism as Chaim Potok displayed as to the tapestry of Judaism and its schools of thought. This is not surprising since Mark Potok, related or not, works for the egregious Southern Poverty Law Center which lacks a reputation for scholarship or integrity.

I've read books by Chaim Potok - very good author. "My Name is Asher Lev" is very good and amusing, especially when the young artistically gifted kid responds to a bully by drawing a picture of the bully being dragged into hell by demons. He leaves the picture where the bully can find it, and from then on the bully did everything he could to avoid Asher Lev!

As far as Mark Potok, Morris Dees probably said that the SPLC swimming pool needs a new set of marble tile, so go out and find a threat we can make some money on.

42 posted on 01/20/2007 1:03:58 PM PST by Hacksaw (Appalachian by the grace of God!)
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To: BlackElk; Convert from ECUSA
As always, NYer, may God bless you and yours.

And to yours! God bless all of you, on your journey home! Thank you for the support.

43 posted on 01/20/2007 3:35:10 PM PST by NYer (Apart from the cross, there is no other ladder by which we may get to Heaven. St. Rose of Lima)
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To: Hacksaw

I've not seen that one. I'll have to pay closer attention.


44 posted on 01/20/2007 3:39:09 PM PST by onyx (DONATE NOW! -- It takes DONATIONS to keep FR running!!)
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To: Claud

Can someone let me know next time these folks have a conference? I want to set up a tinfoil hat stand!

Why does everyone in a black suit w/ a white collar tab, or anyone in roughspun robes have to be Catholic? I'm not convinced here that we're talking about members of our fold.
Typical for the Southern Poverty Law people... Maybe we could follow suit, and use Jim Bakker as our model for any discussion about protestantism.


45 posted on 01/20/2007 3:58:36 PM PST by capt.P (Hold Fast! Strong Hand Uppermost!)
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To: BlackElk

Great comments, thanks!


46 posted on 01/21/2007 3:30:32 AM PST by Diva
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To: Diva

God bless you and yours!


47 posted on 01/21/2007 10:38:29 AM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: Diva
Because I have met several people involved in Assoc. of Hebrew Catholics I'm curious as to what his objections are. Could you point me to an article so I can read it?

He may have written about it in the Remnant, I'm not sure as we don't get that anymore.

But I think there is a chapter in his book on EWTN ("A Network Gone Wrong"--the one with an empty nun's habit on the cover) about it. It's been a while since I read it so I hope I'm not mischaracterizing his argument, but I remember him as saying that organizations like the AHC are essentially "Judaizers"--in the same or a similar sense as the opponents of St. Paul.

I have also met people in the AHC and went to one of their conferences in NYC. Nice folks...and they run the gamut of opinion among themselves. I know Roy Schoeman is somewhat critical himself of *some* of the aspects of the AHC..he's more on the trad side of things.

Which makes a funny dynamic in itself...the trads think you're too pro-Jew, and the Hebrew Catholics think you're too trad. Oh well. :)

48 posted on 01/22/2007 6:41:36 AM PST by Claud
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Sounds like a lot of broad brush painting is going on.

Exactly! HUUUUUGE amounts on all sides. Much ink could be spared if people just took it easy and *listened* to what the other person was saying rather than a) jumping to conclusions and b) focusing on being "right" all the time. It really makes me nuts.

Basically the way I use "traditionalist" is....which Mass would you rather go to on a weekly basis...the 62 Missal or the 69 Missal. How other people use it I dunno.

49 posted on 01/22/2007 6:48:42 AM PST by Claud
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