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Early Church Fathers on (Oral) Tradition - Catholic/Orthodox Caucus
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Posted on 01/28/2007 5:25:46 AM PST by NYer

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To: trisham; NYer

"I've often wondered about that. Your explanation makes perfect sense. Thanks."

She left out the part about the Lebanese, being first cousins to us Greeks, are far nicer people with much better food (ducking)! :)


51 posted on 01/29/2007 3:46:50 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Kolokotronis; NYer
She left out the part about the Lebanese, being first cousins to us Greeks, are far nicer people with much better food (ducking)! :)

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:) I can't disagree. I do wish we had at least one Greek restaurant in this area. We moved four years ago from an area with a fairly large Greek population, which was really wonderful.

52 posted on 01/29/2007 3:55:57 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: ELS; kosta50

"And why not? The Church was one when the Early Church Fathers wrote."

As Kosta says, "A Catholic Church, an Orthodox Faith". Think back, though, over your reading and your lifetime of listening to Popes. Have you ever heard a pope speak and teach like this one? I say it has been rather more than 1000 years since we have heard such a pope.

"IMHO, Benedict XVI's patristic scholarship is/was part of God's plan for him."

And perhaps for all of us!


53 posted on 01/29/2007 3:56:27 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: trisham

"I do wish we had at least one Greek restaurant in this area."

No Greek parishes with Saturday night suppers? :)

Try the internet for recipes. Greek cooking is time consuming but not really very hard or complex!


54 posted on 01/29/2007 4:20:57 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Kolokotronis

Stuffed grape leaves-yum.


55 posted on 01/29/2007 4:46:11 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Kolokotronis; trisham; mockingbyrd; Klondike; malleushaereticorum
"I've often wondered about that. Your explanation makes perfect sense. Thanks."

No ... thank you! Sorry you never inquired sooner.

While my dear friend, Kolokotronis, would argue that the Maronites are the most 'latinized' of all the Eastern Catholic Churches (and he would be right :-), the experience has been a veritable blessing! Experiencing a chanted liturgy, seeing incense waft heavenward, watching a priest make profound bows before the Tabernacle, hearing him chant the words of Consecration in Aramaic - the language of Christ, receiving communion by intinction and on the tongue, celebrating the major feasts with profound reverence and lyrical prayers that reach deep into the soul - ALL of this has stilled the 'inquietude' (sorry, sometimes French words work best) I felt each and every week, attending Mass at my former RC parish. And, there was no escape. Those RC parishes in this diocese that still maintained some semblance of reverence, are few and far between. My original list contained 4 parishes that have since been closed by the bishop.

I would have hung on and fought the abuses, but no one was willing to join me in the battle. They preferred to keep the priest than address the abuses. That left me to battle in the arena, alone. I have no regrets. The Maronite Catholic Church has not only been an oasis in the middle of an arrid desert, it has also nourished my soul with its prayers. In December 2005, our Maronite Bishop celebrated the Divine Liturgy recognizing our parish's centennial. At a reception that evening, out of the clear blue, he suggested that I pray the Maronite Divine Office. This was sheer inspiration on his part and he could not have found a more willing heart. Since then, I have faithfully said the Office each morning (evenings are more challenging because of work hours) and when I neglect to say these prayers, my heart and soul 'feel' the loss. They bring such comfort, joy and inspiration - like food for the soul. I am blessed with an awesome Bishop and parish priest.

She left out the part about the Lebanese, being first cousins to us Greeks, are far nicer people with much better food (ducking)! :)

No doubt, K, we both enjoy the essence of lemon, mint and thyme in the preparation of our dishes ;-). Both cuisines are sumptuous and without equal in the American diet. (how's that :-).

Trisham, if you are ever afforded the opportunity to attend an Eastern Catholic liturgy, please avail yourself of it. When RCs ask my Abouna about the differences between the Latin and Maronite liturgies, he replies with: "Same faith; different flavor". He is absolutely right!

56 posted on 01/29/2007 4:55:38 PM PST by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: NYer; trisham

"No doubt, K, we both enjoy the essence of lemon, mint and thyme in the preparation of our dishes ;-)."

And "rigani", don't forget the "rigani"! And the pistachios and the truly sublime liquid essences of orange and rose blossoms!


57 posted on 01/29/2007 5:00:51 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Kolokotronis; NYer; trisham

Well, then if you enjoy the scent of orange and rose blossoms, buy some of this:

http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/news/nation/16561129.htm?source=rss&channel=inquirer_nation


58 posted on 01/29/2007 5:03:08 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: trisham

59 posted on 01/29/2007 5:03:37 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Kolokotronis
Now you've got me salivating! How about some ...


Kibbe

And leave plenty of room for desert ......


Baklava or "Beklewa" as the Lebanese call these delicacies

60 posted on 01/29/2007 6:23:21 PM PST by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: NYer

"Kibbe"

Ah, veritable ambrosia!


61 posted on 01/29/2007 6:26:30 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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62 posted on 01/29/2007 6:28:04 PM PST by narses (St Thomas says "lex injusta non obligat.")
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To: Kolokotronis
Ambrosia ... lol .... they make that too :-)

(Shhhh ... don't tell Abouna but I definitely prefer Felafel over Kibbe, his favorite :-)

63 posted on 01/29/2007 6:30:57 PM PST by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: kosta50
Latins used to use three fingers

Some of us Catholics still do.

64 posted on 01/29/2007 6:40:24 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: mockingbyrd

Yes there were three girls with mom and dad. they were also active at Holy Rosary parish in NE PDX. Are you from Vancouver?


65 posted on 01/29/2007 7:30:04 PM PST by Klondike
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To: Kolokotronis; NYer

We had a grape vine in the backyard of the house I grew up in. My family had befriended a Greek family during our travels in Korea. When they came to visit us, the mother used fresh leaves from our vine to make dolmas (sp?). Mmmm!


66 posted on 01/29/2007 8:43:03 PM PST by ELS (Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
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To: ArrogantBustard
Some of us Catholics still do [use three finger ti mnake the Sign of the cross]

Yes, I have been reminded of that by a young trad. Thanks, I didn't know that until this thread.

67 posted on 01/29/2007 9:35:49 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: Klondike

I am in Vancouver, and am an active parishoner at Holy Rosary. There's actually a son as well, he's in the Secret Service. He was in the Air Force while they were going to the Ruthinian Rite.

They introduced my parents to homeschooling. And beautiful Icons.


68 posted on 01/29/2007 9:56:38 PM PST by mockingbyrd (peace begins in the womb)
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To: NYer
Experiencing a chanted liturgy, seeing incense waft heavenward, watching a priest make profound bows before the Tabernacle, hearing him chant the words of Consecration in Aramaic - the language of Christ, receiving communion by intinction and on the tongue, celebrating the major feasts with profound reverence and lyrical prayers that reach deep into the soul... Trisham, if you are ever afforded the opportunity to attend an Eastern Catholic liturgy, please avail yourself of it. When RCs ask my Abouna about the differences between the Latin and Maronite liturgies, he replies with: "Same faith; different flavor". He is absolutely right!

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I will. Thank you so much for your recommendation. I had no idea.

69 posted on 01/30/2007 1:38:33 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: wagglebee

Wow. Now that's expensive perfume.


70 posted on 01/30/2007 1:40:16 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: NYer; Kolokotronis

Torture me, will you? :)


71 posted on 01/30/2007 1:41:16 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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