Posted on 01/31/2007 11:48:03 AM PST by MichaelTheeArchAngel
Armageddon or Harmagedon: Revelations 16:16. "and in the Hebrew language it is called Armageddon." There is no word "Armageddon" in the Hebrew language; the word Armageddon is a contraction and mistranslation for the words,"Mount of the Congregation Zion".
Ar / ma / ged / don. Also: Har / ma / ged / on. Har / edah / siyyon. Har: Mount or Mountain. Edah or Mowed: Assembly, Community or Congregation. Siyyon: Zion.
Revelations 16:13-16. And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and that beast, and out of the mouth of a false prophet. 14. For they have evil spirits, working miracles for the rulers of the earth and the whole world, to gather them togather to do battle against God Almighty on that great day. 15. Watch, I come like a thief. Blessed is he that keeps watch, and keeps his cloths, or else he will walk naked, and people will see his shame. 16. And they gathered them together to that place, and in the Hebrew language it is called; Mount of the Congregation Zion.
Isaiah 29:8. So will it be with the hordes of all the nations that fight against Mount Zion.
Proverbs 9:1. Wisdom has built her house; she has hewn out its seven pillars. Revelations 3:12. Him who overcomes I will make a pillar in the temple of my God. Zechariah 3:9. There are seven eyes on that one stone, Zechariah 4:10. These seven are the eyes of the lord, Revelations 5:6. He had seven horns and seven eyes, Daniel 12:3. Those who are wise will shine like the brightness of the heavens, and those who lead many to righteousness, like the stars Revelations 1:20. The mystery of the seven stars that you saw in my right hand and of the seven golden lamps is this: The seven stars are the angels (messengers of God) of the seven churches, Zechriah 3:8. Listen O high priest of Joshua and your associates seated before you, who are men symbolic of things to come; I am going to bring my servent, the Branch. And so, were are they? Who are these seven different churches and the seven messengers? When the Son of Man comes, will he find faith on the earth? If they don’t show up, will that make Satan happy?
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It is a presumption by some scholars, and not a fact, that Megiddo is a battlefield described in the Bible, in relationship to Revelation 16:16, as a place of a predicted final struggle between good and evil. Some believe that the name may be taken from that of the battlefield of Megiddo valley. See Judges 5:19. The word "Megiddo" appears in scripture twelve times, and never with the word "Har" for (Mount) in front of it. The word "Megiddon" is a King James translation in the Old Testament only; and in Revelation 16:16, the King James uses the word spelling "Armageddon". The Valley of Megiddo and Armageddon have no biblical relationship. King James Version: Zechariah 12:9-11. And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem. 10. And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications; and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they will mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn. 11. In that day shall there be a great mourning in Jerusalem, as (Like) the mourning of Hadadrimmon in the valley of Megiddon.
Zion is not only the faithful in Israel and the world, but it is also a city in the last days according to scripture. There is a great deal of scripture to support what I claim, with the word "Zion". However, there is no scripture to support that the valley of Megiddo is a gathering place for Zion.
There is however a book called REVELATION There is not a book called REVELATIONS
b'shem Yah'shua
Are you saying it is "Har-edah-siyyon?" How do you get Haredahsiyyon from Armageddon? MY understading of a mount of Meggido is that "Har" is used figuratively, to represent a stronghold. The stronghold of Megiddo.
Alternatively, might the battle be in Meggido from some higher point above the valley?
(It is widely confessed by biblical scholars that Har Meggido is only a supposition as to what is referred.)
Some of us retrograde knuckledraggers insist on calling it The Apocalypse.
Your entire posting history after the day you signed on consists of two vanities. Both present notions very strongly counter to prevailing viewpoint. Neither present much of an argument to overturn those viewpoints. Both purport to seek further knowledge. And in neither case do you engage in any further discussion when people seek further explanation.
"Dump and run" is not appreciated at FR.
There is no scripture to support that the valley of Megiddo is a gathering place for Zion. PS. I dont like to dump and run, but Im very busy.
Thank you for your post. I agree that the scripture talks about after the thousand year reign, but there is also reason to belive that it is talking about before then also. If you use all of the scripture on "Zion", it points to a time before the thousand year reign also.
Perhaps you should reread the post. A main point being Zechriah 3:8. "MEN SYMBOLIC OF THINGS TO COME"******* There are 7 eyes upon that one stone. 7 angels (messengers), 7 eyes, 7 churches, 7 spirits. It sounds to me like some one is saying something.
Thank you for your post. I agree that the scripture talks about after the thousand year reign, but there is also reason to belive that it is talking about before then also. If you use all of the scripture on "Zion", it points to a time before the thousand year reign also.
I suggest you read more of Kline, specifically "The First Ressurection" and "The Covenant of the 70th Week"
>> It sounds to me like some one is saying something. <<
Yes, but it isn't you so far! OK, there are seven churches. What does that have to do with defining Har Mageddo? Why do you suppose that Har Mageddo is a mistranslation of Har Edah Siyyon? What does Har Mageddo have to do with Har Edah Siyyon at all?
You make a thesis point, and to support it you only provide a few scripture verses which seem to have very little to do with your thesis!
TELL US WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT!!!
So what does that have to do with the meaning of Armageddon???
Im saying that those 7 churches are the Mount of the Congregation Zion, in the last days. Armageddon = Mount of the congregation Zion. I do scriptural linking with a Exgustive concordence, and also word associations as a method of study. Its tiring, but rewarding.
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