Skip to comments.The "Jesus Family Tomb” story: Old News, No News
Posted on 02/28/2007 6:26:10 AM PST by truthfinder9
Every Easter season the anti-Jesus crowd comes out of the woodwork creating some "controversy" about Jesus. This latest one, like many, is years old and was dusted off for the latest round of baseless attacks on Jesus' historicity.
Historian Paul L. Maier explains further:
Thanks for the profusion of e-mails Ive received over the last two days regarding the Talpiot tombs discovery in Jerusalem, a.k.a., the Jesus Family Tomb story. Some of you also suggested that life seemed to be following art so far as my A Skeleton in Gods Closet was concerned. Believe me, this is not the way I wanted my novel to hit the visual media!
Alas, this whole affair is just the latest in the long-running media attack on the historical Jesus, which we thought had culminated in that book of lies, The Da Vinci Code. But no: the caricatures of Christ continue.
Please, lose no sleep over the Talpiot discoveries for the following reasons, and here are the facts:
1) Nothing is new here: scholars have known about the ossuaries ever since March of 1980. The general public learned when the BBC filmed a documentary on them in 1996. James Tabors book, The Jesus Dynasty, also made a big fuss over the Talpiot tombs more recently, and now James Cameron (The Titanic) and Simcha Jacobovici have climbed aboard the sensationalist bandwagon as well.
2) All the names Yeshua, Joseph, Maria, Mariamene, Matia, Judah, and Jose -- are extremely frequent Jewish names for that time and place, and thus most schol-ars consider this merely coincidental, as they did from the start. One-quarter of Jewish women at that time, for example, were named Maria.
3) There is no reason whatever to equate Mary Magdalene with Mariamene as Jacobovici claims.
4) So what if her DNA is different from that of Yeshua ? That particular name, Mariamme (as it is usually spelled today) could indeed have been the wife of that particular Yeshua.
5) What in the world is the Jesus Family doing, having a burial plot in Jerusalem, of all places, the very city that crucified Jesus? Galilee was their home. In Galilee they could have had such a family plot, not Judea. Besides all of which, church tradition and Eusebius are unanimous in reporting that Mary died in Ephesus, where the apostle John, faithful to his commission from Jesus on the cross, had accompanied Mary.
6) If this were Jesus family burial, what is Matthew doing there if indeed Ma-tia is thus to be translated?
7) How come there is no tradition whatever Christian, Jewish, or secular -- that any part of the Holy Family was buried at Jerusalem?
8) Please note the extreme bias of the director and narrator, Simcha Jacobovici. The man is an Indiana-Jones-wannabe, who oversensationalizes anything he touches. You may have caught him on his TV special regarding The Exodus, in which the man explained just everything that still needed proving or explaining in the Exodus account in the Old Testament! It finally became ludicrous, and now hes doing it again. As for James Cameron, how do you follow The Titanic? Well, with an even more titanic story. He should have known better.
There are more arguments, to be sure, but I want to get this off pronto.
James Tabors blog http://jesusdynasty.com/blog/category/tabor-blog/
Ben Witherington III blog critiquing the claim http://benwitherington.blogspot.com/2007/02/jesus-tomb-titanic-talpiot-tomb-theory.html
Darrell L. Bocks critique http://dev.bible.org/bock/node/106
Scot McKnight (North Park University) blog http://www.jesuscreed.org/
Mark Goodacre (Duke University) blog on the controversy http://ntgateway.com/weblog/2007/02/jesus-family-tomb-how-blogging-helps.html
Greg Koukl blog with letter from Paul L. Maier critiquing the claim http://str.typepad.com/weblog/2007/02/whos_writing_th.html
James White blog with preliminary criticisms http://www.aomin.org/index.php?itemid=1790
Michael Spencer The Internet Monk roundup of resources on the controversy http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/a-messiah-buried-with-honor-responses-to-the-tomb-of-jesus-and-his-family-story
Jerusalem Post article interviewing Amos Kloner (Bar-Ilan University), the Jerusalem District archeologist who officially oversaw the work at the tomb in 1980; Kloner dismisses the claim as impossible and nonsense http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?c=JPArticle&cid=1171894508893&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
AP article quotes Stephen Pfann, a Jerusalem-based scholar interviewed in the documentary; Pfann says the name interpreted to be Jesus on one of the caskets is more likely Hunan http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/science/02/26/jesus.sburial.ap/index.html
Newsweek article, somewhat skepticism of the claims; includes video clips from the documentary http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17328478/site/newsweek/
"This latest one, like many, is years old and was dusted off for the latest round of baseless attacks on Jesus' historicity."
I view the life, death and rise of Jesus as more historical fact than "religion". Does anyone out there feel the same?
The Da Vince code is, was, and always will be FICTION.
I don't think anyone is trying to argue against Christianity. If you found an artifact that was this significant (or could possibly be this important) wouldn't you do something about it? It's just the nature of our society to turn to media to communicate a message. A documentary is a great way to do it so that others can judge for themselves. I don't believe there are any anti-Christian motives here. Look for yourself:
So, Mr. Cameron would have us believe that Jesus and his family lived openly in the city where the Romans ruled? Jesus shows his face to anyone other than the Apostles and it's back up on the Cross for him.
The "find" can't be significant, because it can't be authentic. You can't change history, because it happened. Jesus rose from the dead. End of story.
You picked the wrong lady to defend this nonsense to . i saw too much of this garbage to. This garbage belongs with the Di vinci code a fiction novel, get it fiction, in my burner burning to hell , where I think Cameron should go. Don't go there either, I said I am a sinner Would punch that guy in the face in a minute.I want this guy to live a long happy life of me making him miserable on this internet.
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