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Retreatants (Papal Household) Hear of Guises of the Antichrist
Zenit News Agency ^ | February 28, 2007

Posted on 02/28/2007 6:28:51 PM PST by NYer

Preacher Draws On Work of V.S. Solovyov

VATICAN CITY, FEB. 28, 2007 (Zenit.org).- The Antichrist is the reduction of Christianity to an ideology, instead of a personal encounter with the Savior, says the cardinal directing the retreat which Benedict XVI is attending.

Cardinal Giacomo Biffi, retired archbishop of Bologna, delivered that message during a meditation Tuesday, drawing on the work of Russian philosopher Vladimir Sergeyevich Solovyov.

The cardinal's meditation came during the weeklong Spiritual Exercises being attended by the Pope and members of the Roman Curia. The retreat ends this Saturday. The Holy Father suspended his usual meetings, including the general audience, in these days.

According to Vatican Radio's summary of his preaching, the cardinal explained that "the teaching that the great Russian philosopher left us is that Christianity cannot be reduced to a set of values. At the center of being a Christian is, in fact, the personal encounter with Jesus Christ."

Quoting the work "Three Dialogues on War, Progress and the End of History," Cardinal Biffi told his listeners that "the Antichrist presents himself as pacifist, ecologist and ecumenist."

"He will convoke an ecumenical council and will seek the consensus of all the Christian confessions, granting something to each one. The masses will follow him, with the exception of small groups of Catholics, Orthodox and Protestants," he said.

The cardinal added that Solovyov says in that work: "Days will come in Christianity in which they will try to reduce the salvific event to a mere series of values."

No cross

In his "Tale of the Antichrist" Solovyov foresees that a small group of Catholics, Orthodox and Protestants will resist and will say to the Antichrist: "You give us everything, except what interests us, Jesus Christ."

For Cardinal Biffi, this narrative is a warning: "Today, in fact, we run the risk of having a Christianity which puts aside Jesus with his cross and resurrection."

The 78-year-old cardinal said that if Christians "limited themselves to speaking of shared values they would be more accepted on television programs and in social groups. But in this way, they will have renounced Jesus, the overwhelming reality of the resurrection."

The cardinal said he believes that this is "the danger that Christians face in our days … the Son of God cannot be reduced to a series of good projects sanctioned by the prevailing worldly mentality."

However, "this does not mean a condemnation of values, but their careful discernment. There are absolute values, such as goodness, truth, beauty," Cardinal Biffi said. "Those who perceive and love them, also love Christ, even if they don't know it, because he is Truth, Beauty and Justice."

The preacher of the Spiritual Exercises added that "there are relative values, such as solidarity, love of peace and respect for nature. If these become absolute, uprooting or even opposing the proclamation of the event of salvation, then these values become an instigation to idolatry and obstacles on the way of salvation."

Cardinal Biffi affirmed that "if Christianity -- on opening itself to the world and dialoguing with all -- dilutes the salvific event, it closes itself to a personal relationship with Jesus and places itself on the side of the Antichrist."


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: antichrist; catholic; papal; papalhousehold; pope; vatican
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1 posted on 02/28/2007 6:28:54 PM PST by NYer
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To: Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...
In his "Tale of the Antichrist" Solovyov foresees that a small group of Catholics, Orthodox and Protestants will resist and will say to the Antichrist: "You give us everything, except what interests us, Jesus Christ."
2 posted on 02/28/2007 6:30:18 PM PST by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: NYer; Alamo-Girl; airborne; American in Israel; AnimalLover; auggy; backhoe; backslacker; ...

THANK YOU.

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AN EXCELLENT SERMON. I agree rather wholeheartedly. Praise God.

Especially:

Cardinal Biffi told his listeners that "the Antichrist presents himself as pacifist, ecologist and ecumenist."

"He will convoke an ecumenical council and will seek the consensus of all the Christian confessions, granting something to each one. The masses will follow him, with the exception of small groups of Catholics, Orthodox and Protestants," he said.

The cardinal added that Solovyov says in that work: "Days will come in Christianity in which they will try to reduce the salvific event to a mere series of values."

No cross

In his "Tale of the Antichrist" Solovyov foresees that a small group of Catholics, Orthodox and Protestants will resist and will say to the Antichrist: "You give us everything, except what interests us, Jesus Christ."

For Cardinal Biffi, this narrative is a warning: "Today, in fact, we run the risk of having a Christianity which puts aside Jesus with his cross and resurrection."


3 posted on 02/28/2007 6:39:25 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS WORTHY; GOD ALONE PAID THE PRICE; GOD ALONE IS ABLE; LOVE GOD WHOLLY)
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To: NYer
"Today, in fact, we run the risk of having a Christianity which puts aside Jesus with his cross and resurrection."

It's already happening.

4 posted on 02/28/2007 6:42:06 PM PST by airborne (Elect an Airborne Ranger,Vietnam Veteran for President ! Duncan Hunter 2008!!)
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To: NYer

Bumpus!


5 posted on 02/28/2007 6:45:17 PM PST by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
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To: Quix; NYer
This is a line I liked:

The preacher of the Spiritual Exercises added that "there are relative values, such as solidarity, love of peace and respect for nature. If these become absolute, uprooting or even opposing the proclamation of the event of salvation, then these values become an instigation to idolatry and obstacles on the way of salvation."

"Peace" is not a value in itself, but depends on the absolute values, probably particularly Truth. So many churches have gone astray by ignoring the absolute values and exalting the relative values, which cease to exist and even become dangerous once you remove the absolute to which they refer. Sometimes when I hear the words to some of the hymns they write nowadays, I think the Antichrist must be already here among us!

6 posted on 02/28/2007 6:45:48 PM PST by livius
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To: NYer
The cardinal said he believes that this is "the danger that Christians face in our days … the Son of God cannot be reduced to a series of good projects sanctioned by the prevailing worldly mentality."

Curious, what do you think he means by this?

7 posted on 02/28/2007 6:49:34 PM PST by Gerish (Feed your faith and your doubts will starve to death.)
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To: NYer; Gamecock

I'd actually love the swarm to join in this discussion!


8 posted on 02/28/2007 6:49:41 PM PST by dangus
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To: NYer

this reminds me of when/why Pope Benedict was so angry with the Franciscans at Assisi - they tried to re-make Saint Francis as a pacifist, ecologist, and syncretist.

He was not a pacifist?
“Absolutely not. Franscis participated in the fifth Crusade as chaplain of troops who were certainly not men of peace. He sought martyrdom through participating in a crusade to reconquer the Holy Land and fell into depression when the crusaders lost. He did not go to the sultan to dialog but to try and convert him, challenging him to walk over burning coals to prove whether Christ or Mohammed was more powerful. And he was not even an animal lover. In his Song of Creation, he never mentions animals. Nor was he an ecologist! He opposed those among his followers who wanted to be a vegetarian community.”

Now, therefore, the Pope wishes to re-establish orthodoxy?
“Of course. Even in San Giovanni Rotondo [hometown of Padre Pio], the Franciscans have taken the Sanctuary from the control of the diocese. So both there and in Assisi, it is important that the friars’ initiatives be in agreement with that of the bishopric. It wil be good even for the Sacred Convent [main Franciscan church in Assisi], because it will put an end to the friars' politically correct demagoguery. An end to the pretense of peace, ecology, ecumenism and pseudo-courageous vaingloriousness which shakes the hands of dictators [this refers to the ostentatious welcome given by the friars to Saddam's deputy Tariq Aziz, a Christian, when he visited Assisi a few months before the war] and violates the Church itself.”

The Pope wants to normalize things?
“The spirit of Assisi is not what the friars of the Sacred Convent have made it to be, and Joseph Ratzinger is fully aware of the colossal error made during that World Day of Prayer in 1986. So much so that three years later, he succeeded in attenuating the syncretist tendencies of the last inter-religious meeting in Assisi, beginning with a correction of the false picture of the historic Francis . And it has been disconcerting that up to now, the bishop of Assisi has learned of any new initiative by the friars only by reading about it in the papers.”

The end to the “world capital of ecumenism”?
“The sanctuaries should coordinate with the bishops. Ratzinger’s intervention at this point is irreproachable. The Pope has followed his own style, acting in a respectful manner that does not interfere with the monastic life of the order itself, but decisively, in a way that serves as a warning to all. The Church will no longer tolerate events which are exempt from the laws of the Church. It is a choice that is well within Benedict’s pastoral strategy. No one can be a law unto themselves.”


9 posted on 02/28/2007 6:50:06 PM PST by Nihil Obstat
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To: NYer
"He will convoke an ecumenical council and will seek the consensus of all the Christian confessions, granting something to each one. The masses will follow him, with the exception of small groups of Catholics, Orthodox and Protestants," he said.

I'll be part of the small group that doesn't follow Antichrist. Anyone else?

10 posted on 02/28/2007 6:57:19 PM PST by Bosco (Remember how you felt on September 11?)
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To: Gerish

What Catholics call the Corporal Works of Mercy. As a friend of mine said, "Even the New York Times believes in the Corporal Works of Mercy."


11 posted on 02/28/2007 6:59:36 PM PST by firebrand
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To: Gerish

I'd like to see a full transcript of the Cardinal's reflection and find out what the author of this article replaced with the ellipsis (sp?).


12 posted on 02/28/2007 7:04:19 PM PST by ELS (Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
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To: NYer
I agree with the Cardinal. A set of ethical values can't provide an transformational experience. They're what comes from a transformational experience.

13 posted on 02/28/2007 7:19:18 PM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: NYer
The masses will follow him, with the exception of small groups of Catholics, Orthodox and Protestants," he said.

Ecumenical bump!!!

14 posted on 02/28/2007 7:19:28 PM PST by marshmallow
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To: livius

Agreed.

Though I don't have such a problem with SOME of the modern worship music's words--though I prefer a lot of the classics of the faith more.

Even a lot of the choruses are Biblical enough and Christ centered enough. Some may be over simplistic or over redundant.

And, you may be aware of many I'd agree with you on but am not aware of.

But I absolutely deplore the worship music volume being tenaciously pegged literally at 95-125 and even 150db. That's cruel and inhuman punishment. Especially to babies! Sheesh!

And when one complains, in far too many churches, one is labeled a trouble maker or not very spiritual or some such idiocy.


15 posted on 02/28/2007 7:26:41 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS WORTHY; GOD ALONE PAID THE PRICE; GOD ALONE IS ABLE; LOVE GOD WHOLLY)
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To: Nihil Obstat

This ignorant protesty is not all that well read in all that. But from what I do know, your analysis seems quite apt, fitting. Thanks.


16 posted on 02/28/2007 7:27:49 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS WORTHY; GOD ALONE PAID THE PRICE; GOD ALONE IS ABLE; LOVE GOD WHOLLY)
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To: dangus

The swarm?


17 posted on 02/28/2007 7:59:04 PM PST by GoLightly
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To: NYer

Absolutely excellent. Bravo! and extra prayers for Cardinal Biffi.


18 posted on 02/28/2007 8:49:20 PM PST by Maeve (Pray the Divine Mercy Chaplet)
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To: Bosco

Me too, with God's help.


19 posted on 02/28/2007 8:51:12 PM PST by Maeve (Pray the Divine Mercy Chaplet)
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To: Maeve
Me too, with God's help.

Amen!

20 posted on 02/28/2007 8:52:43 PM PST by GoLightly
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