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To: stfassisi

He didn't mean it the way you mean it, I suspect.

And no, the church of 100 was not quite the church of 900, or 1200, or 1500, or 2007...there would be dogmas defined, heresies to be dealt with, the heavy, heavy persecutions to come, and many things which would be worked out.

What we had then was: the Eucharist. The development of bishoprics the way we think of them, baptism. The Holy Spirit to guide us, and the ending of the era of the Apostles, and the rise of Christian gnosticism. The doctrine of the trinity was not yet clearly defined, the definition of Mary as Theotokos was not yet clearly defined, the Nicene creed was not yet formed.

But the Spirit was there to guide us.

You would have recognized that the Eucharist was the eucharist, though. But the words of the service, and certainly the texts used for scripture wouldn't be done in the same way, since the New Testament hadn't been codified yet.

Different, and the same.


23 posted on 03/04/2007 4:38:05 PM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum; stfassisi

"You would have recognized that the Eucharist was the eucharist, though. But the words of the service, and certainly the texts used for scripture wouldn't be done in the same way, since the New Testament hadn't been codified yet."

And yet that Eucharistic theology/experience advanced by +Ignatius of Antioch is to this day unchanged and the center of our lives as members of The Church. Indeed, his definition of what The Church is is still the definition used in Orthodoxy and it is that very definition which is one of the basic givens of the ongoing dialog between Orthodoxy and Rome.


28 posted on 03/04/2007 4:54:14 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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