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Know Your Heresies
www.religion-cults.com ^ | May 2006 | J. Dominguez, M.D.

Posted on 03/04/2007 2:15:29 PM PST by TradicalRC

Christian Heresies Through History

Who is a Heretic?

The greatest "shame" and "glory" of Christianity...Two Kinds of Christianity

The Greatest Love in the Bible

General Outlook of Christian Heresies, Century by Century

- Heresies of the First Century: Simonians of Acts 8, Cerintheians. Judaizers, Circumcisers of Acts 15:1, Nicolaitans of Rev.2:6, The "Synagogue of Satan" of Rev.2:9, The "Throne of Satan" of Rev. 2:13, The "doctrine of Balaam" of Rev.2:14, Nazareans or "Jewish-Christians", Docetism, Gnosticism, Neo-Gnosticism, Agnosticism
- Heresies of the Second Century: Marcionites, Ebionites, Montanism, Monarchians, Tritheism, Modalism, Basidilians, Carpocratians
- Third Century: Tertullianists, Origenists, Manicheans, Millenarians, Novatians
- Fourth Century: Donatists, Arians, Macedonians, Appollinarists, Jovinians, Vigilantians
- Fifth Century: Pelagians, Semipelagians, Nestorians, Predestinarians, Monophysites
- Seventh Century: Paulicians, Monothelites (like Monophysites of the Fifth Century)
- Eighth Century: Iconoclasts, Adoptionists
- Ninth Century: Greek Schism
- Eleven Century: The Great Schism: Orthodox-Roman Catholic.
- Twelfth Century: Petrobrosians, Henricians, Waldenses
- Thirteenth Century: Albiguenses, Fraticelli, Flagellants
- Fourteenth Century: Lollards of John Wycliffe
- Fifteenth Century: Hussites, Moravians, "Church of the Brotherhood", United Brethren
- Sixteenth Century: Protestant Reformation, Lutherans, Zwinglians, Church of England, Calvinism, Anabaptists, Episcopalians, Mennonites, Presbyterians, Puritans, Congregationalism, Huguenots, Reformed Dutch, Unitarians, Socinians
- Seventeenth Century: Baptists, Rosicrucians, Episcopalians, Quakers or Society of Friends, Universalists, Jansenists
- Eighteenth Century: Freemasonry, Shakers-Union Society, Methodists-"Holy Club", Moravians-Church of the Brotherhood-United Brethren, Unitarians, Universalism, Unitarian-Universalist Association
- Nineteenth Century: Mormons, Adventists, Jehovah's Witnesses, Spiritualistic Churches, Salvation Army, Ku-Klux-Klan, Christian Science Church, Old Catholics, Modernists, Reformed Churches, Holiness Churches, Church of God, Church of Christ, Church of God in Christ
- Twentieth Century: Pentecostal Movement, Charismatic Renewal, Snake Handlers, Worldwide Church of God, United Christian Evangelistic Association, Moonies-the Holy Spirit Association for the Unification of World Christianity, National Association of Evangelicals, Wicca, Church of Satan, Church of Scientology, Way International, Church universal and Triumphal, United Unitarian Universalist Association, Fraternity of St. Pius X, Palmar de Troya, Churches for Homosexuals, Children of God, New Age, Peoples Temple of Jim Jones, Branch Davidians WACO

- Philosophies and Religion, the Pillars of Unbelief: Machiavelli, French Revolution, Kant, Marx, Nietzsche, Freud, Sartre

Ecumenical Councils, Dogmatic Condemnation of Heresies


TOPICS: Catholic; Mainline Protestant; Orthodox Christian; Theology
KEYWORDS: heresies; heresy
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I thought that reviewing the heresies would be a good starting point for debates on this forum. The author however is chronicling the heresies from a Catholic perspective although he tries to be objective, his choice of heresies will rub some the wrong way (particularly my Protestant brethren). I offer this as a beginning: my original idea was to post a thread on each heresy and put it up for critical understanding and debate. This is not posted as a caucus (which might be disallowed anyway) as I would encourage the different traditions to offer their input or even alternate links.
1 posted on 03/04/2007 2:15:31 PM PST by TradicalRC
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To: Kolokotronis; Gamecock; Salvation; narses

Please ping the relevant lists, thanks.


2 posted on 03/04/2007 2:20:38 PM PST by TradicalRC ("...this present Constitution, which will be valid henceforth, now, and forever..."-Pope St. Pius V)
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To: TradicalRC

I guess "heresy" is in the eye of the beholder.


3 posted on 03/04/2007 2:20:49 PM PST by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: TradicalRC

Some of these are schisms, rather than heresies. Should I pop some popcorn? ;-)


4 posted on 03/04/2007 2:20:59 PM PST by Pyro7480 ("Jesu, Jesu, Jesu, esto mihi Jesus" -St. Ralph Sherwin's last words at Tyburn)
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Heretic placemarker


5 posted on 03/04/2007 2:23:23 PM PST by dread78645 (Evolution. A doomed theory since 1859.)
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To: TradicalRC

No matter who you are, you're a heretic to somebody.

Heresy support group, anyone? "My name is Larry, and I'm a heretic." "Hi, Larry!!!"


6 posted on 03/04/2007 2:25:19 PM PST by Larry Lucido (Duncan Hunter 2008)
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To: TradicalRC; GlasstotheArson; Trainer; Mrs. Frogjerk; Fiddlstix; xsmommy; TitansAFC; coton_lover; ...
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Freep-mail me to get on or off my pro-life and Catholic Ping List:

Add me / Remove me

Please ping me to all note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of interest.

7 posted on 03/04/2007 2:35:44 PM PST by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: Larry Lucido

Christianity is a heresy of Judaism.
Judism is a heresy of the Earth Mother-Sky Father religion.


Or, if you prefer, there were no heresies until the council of Nicea defined Orthodoxy, and Christianity became the state religion of the Roman Empire.


8 posted on 03/04/2007 2:41:50 PM PST by donmeaker (The speed of light is 186,234 miles per second. Not just a good idea, its the LAW!)
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To: donmeaker
Or, if you prefer, there were no heresies until the council of Nicea defined Orthodoxy, and Christianity became the state religion of the Roman Empire.
Actually, one of the reasons for the Council was the Arian heresy.
10 posted on 03/04/2007 2:50:26 PM PST by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: Pyro7480; NYer; WKB
Some of these are schisms, rather than heresies. Should I pop some popcorn? ;-)

Yep!
(Let's ping some more people too just to get things going)

11 posted on 03/04/2007 2:51:38 PM PST by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: donmeaker

12 posted on 03/04/2007 2:52:36 PM PST by Larry Lucido (Duncan Hunter 2008)
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To: donmeaker
D'oh! Let me try again.


13 posted on 03/04/2007 2:57:23 PM PST by Larry Lucido (Duncan Hunter 2008)
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To: Larry Lucido
ROTFL!
Larry, you're naughty!
14 posted on 03/04/2007 3:07:03 PM PST by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Larry Lucido
No matter who you are, you're a heretic to somebody.

"...Then, during the third reconciliation of the last of the McKetrick supplicants, they chose a new form for him: that of a giant Slor! Many Shuvs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of the Slor that day, I can tell you!"

15 posted on 03/04/2007 3:17:14 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Don't question faith. Don't answer lies.)
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To: TradicalRC

The three greatest heretics are Arius, Muhammad and Luther! Kind of like the three heads of Ceberus!


16 posted on 03/04/2007 3:32:39 PM PST by Macoraba
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To: Macoraba
Why don't you make a nifty acrostic with the term Heresy?
Or perhaps you you might use Luther: the L could stand for Lucifer. I will leave the rest to your imagination
17 posted on 03/04/2007 3:37:02 PM PST by Bainbridge
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To: LiteKeeper

"I guess "heresy" is in the eye of the beholder."

Agreed! :)

Notice how he left out the "filioque" heresy, the Roman Schism of 1054 when Rome left The Church, the earlier Roman Schism, tied to the Frankish innovation of the filioque of the 9th century, the heresies of the Council of Lyons in the 12th century, those of the Council of Trent in the 16th and of course the 19th century heresies promulgated by Vatican I (which trace their heritage back to the Dictatus Papae of the 11th century). We'll leave Vatican II aside for now.


18 posted on 03/04/2007 3:47:48 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: TradicalRC

"Please ping the relevant lists, thanks."

You really don't want me to ping the Orthodox list with this. :(


19 posted on 03/04/2007 3:48:46 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Kolokotronis

Well, maybe we can take your input up to say the ninth century. :)


20 posted on 03/04/2007 3:55:22 PM PST by StAthanasiustheGreat (Vocatus Atque Non Vocatus Deus Aderit)
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To: Kolokotronis

LOL!

Reminds me of something I was saying about theological politics earlier today....


21 posted on 03/04/2007 4:00:14 PM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Pyro7480

Popcorn sounds good. Believe it or not, I really wasn't trying to 'stir the pot', I just thought it would be good to review and bookmark these for the forum. Can you give a good example from this list of a schism rather than a heresy or rather why it is one rather than the other?


22 posted on 03/04/2007 4:00:56 PM PST by TradicalRC ("...this present Constitution, which will be valid henceforth, now, and forever..."-Pope St. Pius V)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

"Reminds me of something I was saying about theological politics earlier today...."

I was thinking of your words as I typed my response to this post! :)


23 posted on 03/04/2007 4:02:24 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Larry Lucido
No matter who you are, you're a heretic to somebody.

I agree. I think it would be interesting where the three main branches of Christianity agree on heresy (most likely the first four centuries) as well as where they disagree and why.

24 posted on 03/04/2007 4:02:56 PM PST by TradicalRC ("...this present Constitution, which will be valid henceforth, now, and forever..."-Pope St. Pius V)
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To: donmeaker
Or, if you prefer, there were no heresies until the council of Nicea defined Orthodoxy, and Christianity became the state religion of the Roman Empire.

It's funny that the apostle Paul was already writing about heresy in the NT. Hmmmm...

25 posted on 03/04/2007 4:05:38 PM PST by TradicalRC ("...this present Constitution, which will be valid henceforth, now, and forever..."-Pope St. Pius V)
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To: Larry Lucido

That was an offshoot of the Nestleorian heresy, I believe


26 posted on 03/04/2007 4:07:01 PM PST by TradicalRC ("...this present Constitution, which will be valid henceforth, now, and forever..."-Pope St. Pius V)
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To: Kolokotronis

Thanks Kolokotronis, I knew you'd come through. Do you know of a link to any similar lists from an Orthodox perspective?


27 posted on 03/04/2007 4:09:36 PM PST by TradicalRC ("...this present Constitution, which will be valid henceforth, now, and forever..."-Pope St. Pius V)
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To: Kolokotronis
You really don't want me to ping the Orthodox list with this. :(

Actually, I do. (pretty please with baklava?)

28 posted on 03/04/2007 4:10:53 PM PST by TradicalRC ("...this present Constitution, which will be valid henceforth, now, and forever..."-Pope St. Pius V)
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To: TradicalRC

LOL!!! Good one.


29 posted on 03/04/2007 4:16:28 PM PST by Larry Lucido (Duncan Hunter 2008)
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To: TradicalRC

Just remember cataloging, even if just meant for that, sometimes leads to inflamed feelings anyway...with every split, there's a lot of pain involved, and a lot of hurt, which sometimes gets passed down centuries.


30 posted on 03/04/2007 4:20:03 PM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Ghostbusters?


31 posted on 03/04/2007 4:23:08 PM PST by cdcdawg
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To: TradicalRC

"Do you know of a link to any similar lists from an Orthodox perspective?"

Actually, no, not one from after say 1054 and before that, save for the filioque, we were pretty much on the same page as you guys. We have great experience with heresy you know. Most of those old ones, which still seem to spring up from time to time, arose in the East, generally among our hierarchs. After the Great Schism, what little talk we have about heresy is usually found in hierarchial comments on Western theological innovations. Though there are those who presently claim it is heresy for Orthodoxy to "dialog" with the Latins or use the "New Calendar" as opposed to one set up by a pagan Roman, we've been surprisingly free, as a general proposition, from heresy since 1054 with the exception of a blip or two along the way which were quickly condemned and their proponents anathemized.


32 posted on 03/04/2007 4:24:42 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Larry Lucido

Posting that during Lent. You temptor, you! LOL!


33 posted on 03/04/2007 4:33:25 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Bainbridge

"Why don't you make a nifty acrostic with the term Heresy?
Or perhaps you you might use Luther: the L could stand for Lucifer. I will leave the rest to your imagination"


Right! The "L" for Luther, the "C" for Calvin! Thanks for the suggestion!


34 posted on 03/04/2007 4:34:22 PM PST by Macoraba
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To: TradicalRC
I think we can all agree on these that I had saved up -- LOL!

Daring to discipline (On excommunication of pro-choice Catholic pols)

Vatican: Kerry guilty of heresy; incurrs automatic excommunication

Major Developments -- Kerry Heresy Case

Denunciation of US Senator John F Kerry for Heresy.

JOHN KERRY, Kennedy, Harkin, Cuomo, Collins, Denounced for Heresy

Lawyer buoyed on Kerry 'heresy

NY TIMES: Letter Supports Anti-Kerry Bid Over Abortion (Kerry Excommunication)

DRUDGE POSTS 'MOVE TO EXCOMMUNICATE KERRY AND OTHERS ADVANCES'

Sen. John Kerry “Excommunicated,” According To Vatican Response

Vatican denies it responded to lawyer seeking Kerry's excommunication.

Excommunicated or Not, Kerry is not Permitted to Receive Communion

About That Whole Kerry Excommunication Thing

Heresy case pressed against Kerry, others ...

Canonical Suit Filed Against Catholic Senators Kennedy, Kerry, Collins & Mario Cuomo

Heresy Case Pressed Against Kerry, Others

Heresy Case Pressed Against Kerry, Others

35 posted on 03/04/2007 4:40:08 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
...with every split, there's a lot of pain involved, and a lot of hurt, which sometimes gets passed down centuries.

True enough. I hope that with time, all sides may gain some perspective. I also realize that human nature being what it is, there will be the inevitable knee-jerk reaction in defense of the team(whatever the denomination) but I am interested in the counter arguments and links to other perspectives on the heresies. Even the Catholic Church made room for an advocatus diablo.(sp?)

36 posted on 03/04/2007 4:44:19 PM PST by TradicalRC ("...this present Constitution, which will be valid henceforth, now, and forever..."-Pope St. Pius V)
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To: donmeaker

"Judism is a heresy of the Earth Mother-Sky Father religion."

When I was in college, one of my buddies, a Jewish guy, dated a girl called "Earth Mother", a large woman. I doubt she's the one you're referring to, though, as they never fought about religion, at least she never called him a heretic.


37 posted on 03/04/2007 4:45:07 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Kolokotronis
Do you know of a link to any similar lists from an Orthodox perspective?"

Actually, no, not one from after say 1054 and before that, save for the filioque, we were pretty much on the same page as you guys.

Sounds like a void that could be filled. Perhaps you could recommend a History of Christianity from an EO perspective.

38 posted on 03/04/2007 4:46:45 PM PST by TradicalRC ("...this present Constitution, which will be valid henceforth, now, and forever..."-Pope St. Pius V)
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To: TradicalRC

Here's a link to the library of The Church of Greece. There's likely some stuff there:

http://www.myriobiblos.gr/


39 posted on 03/04/2007 4:48:43 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Kolokotronis
When I was in college, one of my buddies, a Jewish guy, dated a girl called "Earth Mother", a large woman. I doubt she's the one you're referring to, though, as they never fought about religion, at least she never called him a heretic.

You could say he was 'mooning' over her...

40 posted on 03/04/2007 4:49:05 PM PST by TradicalRC ("...this present Constitution, which will be valid henceforth, now, and forever..."-Pope St. Pius V)
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To: Kolokotronis

Thanks. I'll check it out.


41 posted on 03/04/2007 4:49:41 PM PST by TradicalRC ("...this present Constitution, which will be valid henceforth, now, and forever..."-Pope St. Pius V)
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To: TradicalRC
Here are some links on FR more in keeping with your original post.!

Know Your Heresies

The Rev. John Piper: an interesting look at "heresy vs. schism"

Pietism as an Ecclesiological Heresy

Heresy

Arian Heresy Still Tempts, Says Cardinal Bertone (Mentions Pelagianism As Well)

Catholic Discussion] Church group stays faithful (to heresy!)

Where heresy and dissent abound [Minnesota]

Gnostic Gospels - the heresy entitled "Gnosticism."

The So-Called ‘Gospel’ of Judas: Unmasking an Ancient Heresy

42 posted on 03/04/2007 4:54:14 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Kolokotronis
I tried looking it up here but they referred me to the article I posted! Go figure.
43 posted on 03/04/2007 4:57:22 PM PST by TradicalRC ("...this present Constitution, which will be valid henceforth, now, and forever..."-Pope St. Pius V)
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To: TradicalRC

You could have just saved space and said that anyone who is not Catholic is a heretic.


44 posted on 03/04/2007 4:59:32 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: TradicalRC

"I tried looking it up here but they referred me to the article I posted! Go figure."

Odd. Just click the link I posted, set your browser to allow or partially allow scripts and click on the the English language tabs (unless you've set your computer to deal with Greek and can read it). It should work fine. Let me know if you have a problem. It really is quite a theological resource.


45 posted on 03/04/2007 5:03:15 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: TradicalRC; Kolokotronis

This is actually a very interesting discussion, because we are facing attacks now from different types of heresies. I suspect that one can divide heresies into broad categories and in my mind, there are at least two that most of the others could be sorted into: there are anti-Trinitarian heresies and there are dualist heresies. One is based on the nature of God, and the other is based on the nature of creation. Any other categories?


46 posted on 03/04/2007 5:05:08 PM PST by livius
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To: TradicalRC
Charismatic Renewal

May I be the first to say, "Phhooooooopp!"?

Thank you, I thought I would be.

47 posted on 03/04/2007 5:20:58 PM PST by Tax-chick (Every "choice" has a direct object.)
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To: TradicalRC
What a waste of time. The two choices are Roman Catholic or heretic.

What kind of idiot can't tell the difference between a Calvinist and a mormon?

48 posted on 03/04/2007 5:37:00 PM PST by TomSmedley (Calvinist, optimist, home schooling dad, exuberant husband, technical writer)
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To: DouglasKC

"You could have just saved space and said that anyone who is not Catholic is a heretic."


Works for me!


49 posted on 03/04/2007 5:54:24 PM PST by Macoraba
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To: Kolokotronis

There's a Black racist cult called the Five Percenters wherein the men refer to themselves as "gods" and the women as "earths".


50 posted on 03/04/2007 5:57:44 PM PST by Macoraba
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