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To: Alamo-Girl
The difference is, the word "rock" as applied to God is being supplied by the authors of Scripture. In the case of Peter, it is being directly and vocally supplied by God, Himself. When God "speaks", Creation occurs. The Word is God's utterance of His own Divinity, incarnated in Jesus, so named by the Word, Himself. When Christ speaks the name "Peter", Simon Bar-Jonah became a new creation in Jesus' name.

The gravity of this Divine utterance of "Peter" is commensurate with the Divine utterance unto Jacob of his new name, "Israel". Therefore, to assert that Jesus' re-naming of Simon bar-Jonah to "Peter" is somehow lessened in significance to the applied name of "the Rock" to God Himself the authors of Scripture, ignores the power of God's utterance in Creation. By His utterance unto Jacob, Israel was created. By His utterance unto Simon bar-Jonah, the New Israel has been created.

28 posted on 03/19/2007 9:01:16 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna)
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To: Alamo-Girl

Re-write for grammar:

Therefore, to assert that Jesus' actual re-naming of Simon bar-Jonah to "Peter" is somehow less unique because the authors of Scripture ascribed it to God Himself in various parts of the Old Testament ignores the creative power of God's Word.


29 posted on 03/19/2007 9:04:46 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna)
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To: Rutles4Ever
The difference is, the word "rock" as applied to God is being supplied by the authors of Scripture. Er, if you think the Torah was authored by mortals then you seem to have missed the point made by Jesus Christ in the Sermon on the Mount:

For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. – Matt 5:18

You also might want to reread the Torah and the entire Tanakh for that matter. God spoke to Moses. The Jewish tradition is that the Torah existed before the world, and because God spoke in Hebrew, the Hebrew language is sacred.

Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. – John 4:22

Oh and Jesus Christ is the living Word of God from the beginning (John 1:1). Everything that was made was made by Him and for Him (John 1, Col 1, Rev) He didn’t only begin speaking to man when He was enfleshed.

Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea; And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea; And did all eat the same spiritual meat; And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ. – 1 Cor 10:1-4


33 posted on 03/19/2007 10:56:24 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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