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To: MarkBsnr; kosta50; Zionist Conspirator
The Catholic Church has always spoken of hell as a place, or more specifically a locus.

If hell isn't a place, then it is either everywhere or nowhere.

St. John Chrysostom, St. Augustine and St. Gregory The Great all said that hell is a place, but that its location has not been revealed to us.

Remember that the Church teaches that on the Last Day, the souls of the elect will be reunited with their mortal bodies and that the souls of the damned will also be reunited with their mortal bodies.

The bodies of the damned will be located somewhere, and the place where they are located is Hell.

35 posted on 01/10/2008 10:12:32 AM PST by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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I think ya’ll insult God saying He would actually punish
someone eternally. Its at this point you accuse a loving God of injustice and cruelty.

36 posted on 01/10/2008 10:18:56 AM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: wideawake

The Catechism says:

Jesus often speaks of “Gehenna,” of “the unquenchable fire” reserved for those who to the end of their lives refuse to believe and be converted, where both soul and body can be lost.614 Jesus solemnly proclaims that he “will send his angels, and they will gather . . . all evil doers, and throw them into the furnace of fire,”615 and that he will pronounce the condemnation: “Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire!”616

614: Cf. Mt 5:22, 29; 10:28; 13:42, 50; Mk 9:43-48.

615: Mt 13:41-42.

616: Mt 25:41.

“Fire” carries with it the idea that it is located somewhere. Physical fire, that is. Spiritual fire? It may or may not have a physical aspect to it.

37 posted on 01/10/2008 10:44:14 AM PST by MarkBsnr (V. Angelus Domini nuntiavit Mariae. R. Et concepit de Spiritu Sancto.)
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To: wideawake; MarkBsnr; Campion; Zionist Conspirator; Iscool; epow
"Pope John Paul II pointed out that the essential characteristic of heaven, hell or purgatory is that they are states of being of a spirit (angel/demon) or human soul, rather than places, as commonly perceived and represented in human language. This language of place is, according to the Pope, inadequate to describe the realities involved, since it is tied to the temporal order in which this world and we exist. In this he is applying the philosophical categories used by the Church in her theology and saying what St. Thomas Aquinas said long before him.

"Incorporeal things are not in place after a manner known and familiar to us, in which way we say that bodies are properly in place; but they are in place after a manner befitting spiritual substances, a manner that cannot be fully manifest to us." [St. Thomas Aquinas, Summa Theologiae, Supplement, Q69, a1, reply 1]"[ EWTN ]

This statement is fully orthodox and in line with the teaching of the Eastern Church.

45 posted on 01/10/2008 1:04:35 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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