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To: MarkBsnr
This notion of saving one’s soul before death would be amusing on a juvenile level, worthy of National Lampoon type snickers, if it wasn’t so deadly serious and imperilling of your immortal soul.

Out of over 30,000 verses, you guys have picked a handful to base your relgion on and made up the rest (that you call tradition)...

Rev 3:21 To him that shall overcome, I will give to sit with me in my throne: as I also have overcome and am set down with my Father in his throne.

1Jo 4:4 You are of God, little children, and have overcome him. Because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

1Jo 2:14 I write unto you, babes, because you have known the Father. I write unto you, young men, because you are strong, and the word of God abideth in you, and you have overcome the wicked one.

1Jo 5:13 These things I write to you that you may know that you have eternal life: you who believe in the name of the Son of God.

Your argument is not with me...It's with God...He wrote these things...

Rom 4:7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.

Joh 6:37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.

Sure, there will be a judgement of the sheep and goats...And there are scores of scriptures which show that that verse does not apply to Christians...

Catholics make the claim that 'all' the bible applies to Christians....Who told you that??? Did your church tell you that??? You didn't get it from the bible...

I have asked many here within the reference of these passages how they think that they’ll fare when faced with placement with either the sheep or the goats.

Apparently you haven't asked me because I have no problem answering that question, with scripture...

Mat 25:31 And when the Son of man shall come in his majesty, and all the angels with him, then shall he sit upon the seat of his majesty. Mat 25:32 And all nations shall be gathered together before him: and he shall separate them one from another, as the shepherd separateth the sheep from the goats: Mat 25:33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on his left.

The answer is; this is not a judgement for Christians...We have already overcome...We as Christians will be there with Jesus Christ and WE will be judging these people along with Jesus Christ...

Joh 12:48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

This judgement is for people that have rejected Jesus...I won't be there getting judged...

1Co 6:2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?

I'd suggest you put down the catechism and pick up a bible...You'll be amazed at what you find in there...Not the least, your salvation...

222 posted on 04/20/2007 12:55:27 PM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailer park...)
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To: Iscool

Actually, we have the whole Bible; unadulterated since we put it together. We don’t have an adulterated Scripture, with nips and tucks here and there to eliminate the things that Martin Luther didn’t like.

By definition, you have a partial faith, since you only have a partial Bible. And it is astounding beyond belief to read the words of those here and elsewhere who claim infallibility in their own personal made-up by gosh doctrine, which differs substantially from all those others who also claim infallibility but the one source who can actually claim doctrinal infallibility, you all reject.

To claim that the Judgement doesn’t apply to you seems merely to be a rationalization whereby one can skip past the requirements of eternal life with God. And then to say that the entire Word of God doesn’t apply to Christians appears ludicrous.

Well, go ahead and wave your hall pass around. You don’t get judged? My Bible, and the One Holy and Apostolic Church of Christ say that you do.

Don’t know what Holy Scripture you live by, but it is fascinating to see unrelated passages strung together and even more fascinating to see what you consider proof or conclusive evidence. Methinks that you’re reading whatever portions of the Bible that you do read in order to find loopholes. Didn’t that Pharisees do that with Scripture as well?

By rejecting His Church, I’d say that you were rejecting Him. So, if you don’t belong to the Church of Christ, where do you belong? The Church of Iscool!!! Has a certain ring about it, doesn’t it? Maybe not a ring - more like a millstone.

When the Church was splintered through the devices of satan by folks like Zwingli and Luther, and the whole idea of personal interpretation arose in order to help try to diminish the influence of the Church of Christ here on Earth, this is exactly what the devil’s intent was.

It appeals to the arrogant and the proud - to imagine that each individual would have the same or even greater power than the Church to create and alter one’s own personal doctrine. How does your personal beliefs differ from, say, Benny Hinn, or Jimmy Swaggart, or Ted Haggard? In some ways, little, in some ways substantal.

But the fact there are substantial differences lead to the conclusion that they’re all wrong. The can only be one right. The only entity that Jesus left on earth is His Church. The Bible is a byproduct of that Church. That entity is the only one authorized to interpret Scripture.

Else we’ll have millions of different interpretations. And all of them wrong to one degree or another.


236 posted on 04/25/2007 7:43:23 AM PDT by MarkBsnr
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