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Did Jesus Declare All Meats Clean?
Good News Magazine ^ | November 2002 | Larry Walker

Posted on 04/21/2007 9:24:38 AM PDT by DouglasKC

Did Jesus Declare All Meats Clean?

Many assume Jesus' statements in Mark 7 did away with the dietary restrictions recorded in the Old Testament. How should we understand Christ's words?

by Larry Walker

In this series of articles we have examined statements of Jesus Christ that when understood correctly are surprisingly different in meaning from the way they are commonly understood. In the case of dietary restrictions recorded in the Bible, the surprise may be the result of understanding not just what Jesus said but what He did not say in the Gospel of Mark.

Many believe that in His encounter with the Pharisees recorded in Mark 7:1-23, Jesus abrogated the laws of clean and unclean meats revealed in Leviticus 11 and Deuteronomy 14. In fact, many modern translations of the New Testament insert additional words into the text of Mark 7:19 to reflect this understanding. For example, the New International Version ends the verse with: "(In saying this, Jesus declared all foods 'clean')."

The New King James Version has "thus purifying all foods" and includes the marginal explanation: "NU [an abbreviation for the text used by many New Testament translations] sets off the final phrase as Mark's comment, that Jesus has declared all foods clean."

But is this textual variation correct? Does it capture the meaning of the passage in question? What exactly did Jesus mean by His statement?

Context provides the answer

One of the foundational principles for understanding a scriptural passage is to examine the context. What is the topic of discussion here?

We should first notice that the subject is food in general, not which meats are clean or unclean. The Greek word broma, used in verse 19, simply means food. An entirely different Greek word, kreas, is used in the New Testament where meat—animal flesh —is specifically intended (see Romans 14:21; 1 Corinthians 13:8). So this passage concerns the general subject of food rather than meat. But a closer look shows that more is involved.

The first two verses help us understand the context: "Then the Pharisees and some of the scribes came together to Him, having come from Jerusalem. Now when they saw some of His disciples eat bread with defiled, that is, with unwashed hands, they found fault" (verses 1-2). They asked Jesus, "Why do Your disciples not walk according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashed hands?" (verse 5).

Now we see the subject further clarified. It concerns eating "with unwashed hands." Why was this of concern to the scribes and Pharisees?

The covenant God made with Israel at Mount Sinai was based on many laws and other instructions that ensured ritual purity. Jewish observance, however, often went beyond these in embracing the "oral law" or "tradition of the elders"—passed on by word of mouth and consisting of many additional man-made requirements and prohibitions tacked onto God's laws. Verses 3-4 of Mark 7 provide a brief explanation of the specific practice the Pharisees and scribes were referring to in this account: "For the Pharisees and all the Jews do not eat unless they wash their hands in a special way, holding the tradition of the elders ..."

Notice that food laws are not in question here. The topic is ritual purity based on the religious traditions of the oral law. The disciples were being criticized for not following the proper procedure of ceremonial hand-washing prescribed by these revered religious traditions.

The Jewish New Testament Commentary, explaining the background of verses 2-4, offers a description of this custom: "Mark's explanation of a ... ritual handwashing, in these verses corresponds to the details set forth in Mishna tractate Yadayim [the Mishna is a later written version of the oral tradition]. In the marketplace one may touch ceremonially impure things; the impurity is removed by rinsing up to the wrist. Orthodox Jews today observe [ritual hand-washing] before meals. The rationale for it has nothing to do with hygiene but is based on the idea that 'a man's home is his Temple,' with the dining table his altar, the food his sacrifice and himself the cohen (priest). Since the Tanakh [Old Testament] requires cohanim [priests] to be ceremonially pure before offering sacrifices on the altar, the Oral Torah requires the same before eating a meal" (David Stern, 1995).

By the time of Christ many had made these additional practices a top priority and in so doing sometimes overlooked and even violated the fundamental principles of the law of God (Matthew 23:1-4, 23-28).

Spiritual principle of purification

After decrying the hypocrisy of this and other religious traditions and practices of the day, Jesus gets to the heart of the matter. He explains that what defiles a person (in the eyes of God) comes not from the outside—by what one puts into his mouth—but from within (verse 15).

He said it is far more important to concentrate on what comes out of your heart than what you put into your mouth. Jesus explains: "For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, licentiousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness. All these evil things come from within and defile a man" (verses 21-23).

Some of these same qualities are listed in Galatians 5:19-21 as "works of the flesh." They are contrasted with the "fruit of the Spirit" (verses 22-23). "Love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness [and] self-control" are qualities of a spiritually purified heart.

The ceremonial washings and purification practices of the Old Covenant were physical representations of the spiritual purification to be offered in the New Covenant (Hebrews 9:11-14). Hebrews 9:23 tells us: "Therefore it was necessary that the copies of the things in the heavens [referring to the tabernacle, altar, priests, etc.] should be purified with these [ceremonial purifications], but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these." So the apostle Paul writes that Jesus "gave Himself for us, that He might redeem us from every lawless deed and purify for Himself His own special people, zealous for good works" (Titus 2:14).

"Blessed are the pure in heart" is one of the fundamental teachings of Christ (Matthew 5:8).

Unwashed hands don't defile the heart

In Mark 7 Jesus explains that ceremonial washing is not necessary for spiritual purity or sound spiritual health. He points out that "whatever enters a man from outside cannot defile him, because it does not enter his heart but his stomach, and is eliminated, thus purifying all foods" (verses 18-19).

Jesus is simply stating here that any dirt or other incidental impurities not removed through elaborate hand-washing will be purged out by the human digestive system in a manner that has no bearing on the heart and mind of a person. Since spiritual purification involves the heart, ceremonial washings are ineffective and unnecessary in preventing spiritual defilement.

Several Bible scholars recognize the error of interpreting this passage as an abrogation of the laws of clean and unclean meats. Certain grammatical factors, as well as the context of Scripture, determine how to properly translate verse 19. The Greek word translated "purifying" is a participle and must agree in grammatical gender with the noun it describes. Because this participle has a masculine ending, it cannot refer to "stomach," which is in the feminine gender in Greek. Thus many scholars instead relate "purifying" back to "He said."

However, another alternative provides a better explanation. The expression "is eliminated" in the New King James Version is a euphemistic rendering of what the original King James Version translates as "goeth out into the draught." "Draught" (draft) is an archaic way to translate the Greek word aphedron, which means "a place where the human waste discharges are dumped, a privy, sink, toilet" (BibleWorks software). Aphedron is a masculine-gender noun, so "purifying" can refer to the end result of human waste, the toilet.

The Commentary on the New Testament: Interpretation of Mark explains the passage on the basis of this pertinent information: "The translation ... 'This he said, making all meats clean' makes the participial clause ['purifying all foods'] a remark by Mark ... that Jesus makes all foods clean— a remark ... that we cannot accept ... He is explaining to his disciples how no food defiles a man ... As far as this thought is concerned, Jesus expresses it already in the preceding clause: 'and goes out into the privy.' What he now adds is that the privy [the end result of the digestive process] 'makes all food clean' ... for all foods have their course through the body only, never touch the heart, and thus end in the privy ... Since the disciples are so dense, the Lord is compelled to give them so coarse an explanation. In this, however, he in no way abrogates the Levitical laws concerning foods" (R.C.H. Lenski, pp. 297-298, emphasis added).

The Jewish New Testament Commentary, in its note on verse 19, summarizes well the overall meaning of this passage: "Yeshua [Jesus] did not, as many suppose, abrogate the laws of kashrut [kosher] and thus declare ham kosher! Since the beginning of the chapter the subject has been ritual purity ... and not kashrut at all! There is not the slightest hint anywhere that foods in this verse can be anything other than what the Bible allows Jews to eat, in other words, kosher foods ...

"Rather, Yeshua is continuing his discussion of spiritual prioritizing (v. 11). He teaches that tohar (purity) is not primarily ritual or physical, but spiritual (vv. 14-23). On this ground he does not entirely overrule the Pharisaic/rabbinic elaborations of the laws of purity, but he does demote them to subsidiary importance."

Peter's testimony is significant

Can we find other biblical evidence that this view is correct, that Jesus never changed the biblical food laws? We find a telling event from the life of Peter well after Jesus' death and resurrection.

Peter is a central figure in the early Church. Jesus charged Peter to strengthen the brethren (Luke 22:32). Peter delivered a powerful sermon that led to the conversion of thousands (Acts 2:14-41). His boldly claiming the name of Christ resulted in the miraculous healing of a lame man. He powerfully preached on repentance to those who gathered to witness the miracle (Acts 3:1-26). Later the mere passing of Peter's shadow over the sick resulted in dramatic healings (Acts 5:15).

Surely Peter would have understood something as fundamental as whether Jesus had repealed the laws of clean and unclean meat. Yet, years after Christ's death and resurrection, when he experienced a vision of unclean animals accompanied by a voice telling him to "kill and eat," notice Peter's spontaneous response: "Not so, Lord! For I have never eaten anything common or unclean" (Acts 10:14, emphasis added throughout).

Ironically, many believe the purpose of this vision was to do away with the dietary restrictions regarding clean and unclean meats. Overlooked is the significance of Peter's initial response. He obviously did not consider these laws as having been rescinded by Christ!

This strange vision came to Peter three times, yet he still "wondered within himself what this vision which he had seen meant" (verses 16-17) and "thought about the vision" (verse 19). Peter did not jump to conclusions as too many do today. He already knew what the vision did not mean. Later God revealed the true meaning: "God has shown me that I should not call any man common or unclean" (verse 28).

Peter came to realize that the significance of the vision was that God was opening the way of salvation to gentiles (non-Israelites), so Peter shortly thereafter baptized the first uncircumcised gentiles God called into the Church (verses 34-35, 45-48). Peter was never to eat unclean animals, but he did learn this vital lesson in the plan of God.

Lessons for today

The moral of this story is that food laws and righteousness are not mutually exclusive. God gave His food laws for sound reasons. True righteousness entails submission and obedience to all of God's Word (Psalm 119:172; Matthew 4:4; 5:17-19). GN



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1 posted on 04/21/2007 9:24:40 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: HereInTheHeartland

I thought this might be a more appropriate place to discuss this issue.


2 posted on 04/21/2007 9:26:07 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC
I think Paul explained it the best, for those who are of a weaker faith and feel that it is unclean to eat pork or other unclean meats, then, don't, but, if your soul does not condemn you, then do so, except, don't eat the meat that was sacrificed to false Gods.
Pass the Barbecue sauce.
3 posted on 04/21/2007 9:42:48 AM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: DouglasKC

Where do these people come up with this stupid stuff? Who cares. I am so sick of liberals asking stupid questions. Would Jesus use the computer was another question they asked a while back....Idiots!!!


4 posted on 04/21/2007 9:45:13 AM PDT by napscoordinator (.)
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To: DouglasKC; MHGinTN

How about coffee and tea. Are they clean or unclean?


5 posted on 04/21/2007 9:51:03 AM PDT by colorcountry (He Who the Son Has Set Free, Is Free Indeed)
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To: napscoordinator
Where do these people come up with this stupid stuff? Who cares. I am so sick of liberals asking stupid questions. Would Jesus use the computer was another question they asked a while back It's in the book of Dos, Chapter 12, Verse 51.
6 posted on 04/21/2007 9:51:29 AM PDT by joesbucks
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To: joesbucks

Which Bible? King James? I don’t read that one. That must be where these crazies are getting their information.


7 posted on 04/21/2007 9:59:34 AM PDT by napscoordinator (.)
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To: DouglasKC

8 posted on 04/21/2007 10:04:13 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: napscoordinator
Where do these people come up with this stupid stuff?

It's in the bible. The foods that the Lord Christ designated as being unfit for human consumption are listed in Leviticus chapter 11.

9 posted on 04/21/2007 10:05:38 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: colorcountry
How about coffee and tea. Are they clean or unclean?

I can't find references to coffee or tea in Leviticus chapter 11.

10 posted on 04/21/2007 10:06:24 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Always Right

Nothing like a big hunk of grilled venison that’s for sure.


11 posted on 04/21/2007 10:07:13 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC

a. All flying insects that creep on all fours shall be an abomination to you: Among insects, any creeping insect was unkosher (such as ants or grubs). Yet if there were a flying insect with legs jointed above their feet, these could be eaten. Good examples of kosher insects include the locust, the cricket, and the grasshopper.

Great tell those soldiers who are starving and have to eat ants that they are going to hell. Wonderful. You know this is King James who was a person. The only Bible that was spoken directly by God was the Catholic version. Not sure if you knew that.


12 posted on 04/21/2007 10:09:41 AM PDT by napscoordinator (.)
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To: DouglasKC

Me neither...

What about section 89 of the Doctrine & Covenants?


13 posted on 04/21/2007 10:11:46 AM PDT by colorcountry (He Who the Son Has Set Free, Is Free Indeed)
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To: napscoordinator
Great tell those soldiers who are starving and have to eat ants that they are going to hell. Wonderful. You know this is King James who was a person. The only Bible that was spoken directly by God was the Catholic version. Not sure if you knew that.

I didn't know that. But thanks for the information.

And I don't think that soldiers who eat ants are going to go to hell either.

14 posted on 04/21/2007 10:17:37 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: colorcountry
Me neither...
What about section 89 of the Doctrine & Covenants?

Beats me. I'm not sure I've ever read any LDS literature.

15 posted on 04/21/2007 10:18:59 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Prophet in the wilderness

Hmmm. I want some bacon.


16 posted on 04/21/2007 10:19:55 AM PDT by RockinRight (Support FREDeralism. Fred Thompson in 2008!)
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To: napscoordinator

Would Jesus recycle injet cartridges and old cellphones in the appropriate recycling bin?


17 posted on 04/21/2007 10:22:31 AM PDT by RightWhale (3 May '07 3:14 PM)
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To: DouglasKC

Well, Mormons are Christian and this is what their Word of Wisdom says....

The Word of Wisdom is a law of health revealed by the Lord for the physical and spiritual benefit of His children. On February 27, 1833, as recorded in section 89 of the Doctrine and Covenants, the Lord revealed which foods are good for us to eat and which substances are not good for the human body. He also promised health, protection, knowledge, and wisdom to those who obey the Word of Wisdom.

You cannot be baptized into the true Church of Jesus Christ unless you abide this commandment. So obviously Jesus, through Paul has not made any food clean at all.....in fact you can now add tea and coffee to the list of unclean substances.

In the Word of Wisdom, the Lord revealed that the following substances are harmful:

Alcoholic drinks (see D&C 89:5–7).

Tobacco (see D&C 89:8).

Tea and coffee (see D&C 89:9; latter-day prophets have taught that the term “hot drinks,” as written in this verse, refers to tea and coffee).


18 posted on 04/21/2007 10:28:42 AM PDT by colorcountry (He Who the Son Has Set Free, Is Free Indeed)
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To: RightWhale
Would Jesus recycle injet cartridges and old cellphones in the appropriate recycling bin?

Will the returned Christ even NEED a printer or cellphone?

19 posted on 04/21/2007 10:29:29 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: colorcountry
You cannot be baptized into the true Church of Jesus Christ unless you abide this commandment. So obviously Jesus, through Paul has not made any food clean at all.....in fact you can now add tea and coffee to the list of unclean substances.
In the Word of Wisdom, the Lord revealed that the following substances are harmful:

Although the LDS may have many sincere Christians or at least potential Christians among the organization, I don't think the LDS is the church of God on earth today. Therefore I don't recognize these as pronouncements from the Lord.

20 posted on 04/21/2007 10:33:50 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC

Unless he doesn’t need to get people’s attention away from their Blackberrys he will textmessage.


21 posted on 04/21/2007 10:34:40 AM PDT by RightWhale (3 May '07 3:14 PM)
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To: RightWhale
Unless he doesn’t need to get people’s attention away from their Blackberrys he will textmessage

Maybe one message: LOOK UP...HERE I COME....

22 posted on 04/21/2007 10:37:02 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC

Yeah, in a minute. GF is messaging.


23 posted on 04/21/2007 10:38:27 AM PDT by RightWhale (3 May '07 3:14 PM)
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To: napscoordinator
“All flying insects that creep on all fours”

Are you referring to Lev 11:21 - 22 ?

It would be curious to know the oldest version of that line.

My K.J. version does not say “insects” and insects have SIX legs.

24 posted on 04/21/2007 10:47:07 AM PDT by Liberty Rattler (Don't tread on me!)
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To: DouglasKC
Kosher, halal, who cares? Pass the baby back ribs please...oh, and a Guinness if you have one...

5.56mm

25 posted on 04/21/2007 10:59:25 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: colorcountry

Hello C.C.

Are you playing the Devil’s advocate in quoting the D&C?

By the way, the real subject here is ritual purity not health or hygene as DouglasKC’s posted article explains.


26 posted on 04/21/2007 11:00:05 AM PDT by Liberty Rattler (Don't tread on me!)
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To: DouglasKC

Larry Walker wasn’t anythig good for nothing outside the thin air of Rockies stadium, though... :^)


27 posted on 04/21/2007 11:01:45 AM PDT by dangus
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To: Liberty Rattler

Yes liberty, I am.

Do you believe in the ritual purity of obeying the Word of Wisdom.

Most Christians would tell you it isn’t what you take in through your mouth, but what issues forth from the heart within, that is important to God...

Hey but it really is only about obedience and covenants after all. That’s what I’m being told.


28 posted on 04/21/2007 11:04:05 AM PDT by colorcountry (He Who the Son Has Set Free, Is Free Indeed)
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To: DouglasKC

SO if Jesus did not HIMSELF, in that instance, declare all meats clean, does that mean they aren’t? What’s your point? Mark, inspired by the Holy Spirit, was wrong?


29 posted on 04/21/2007 11:21:13 AM PDT by dangus
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To: DouglasKC

I think the term for Larry Walker is “Judaizer.” It’s not a compliment.


30 posted on 04/21/2007 11:26:50 AM PDT by dangus
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To: napscoordinator

*** The only Bible that was spoken directly by God was the Catholic version. Not sure if you knew that.***

Jerome was God?


31 posted on 04/21/2007 11:34:40 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: dangus
SO if Jesus did not HIMSELF, in that instance, declare all meats clean, does that mean they aren’t? What’s your point? Mark, inspired by the Holy Spirit, was wrong?

Mark was exactly right. What's wrong is the interpretation of what Christ actually said and did. The article explains it quite clearly.

32 posted on 04/21/2007 11:37:24 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: dangus
I think the term for Larry Walker is “Judaizer.” It’s not a compliment.

I'm aware that the term is not a compliment. But I'm certain that Larry Walker doesn't fit the biblical definition of that word.

33 posted on 04/21/2007 11:38:38 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: colorcountry
Ha! Ha! You she-devil you!

I’m sure you realize by now that I don’t believe in Mormonism in the least.

Indeed, as you say, “It isn’t what you take in through your mouth, but what issues forth from the heart within, that is important to God.”

It never ceases to amaze me how folks will continue to try to parse the scriptures and attempt to hang their salvation on one detail or another, yet miss the point of Christ entirely.

That doesn’t mean we should all go around being a bunch of drunks, that smoke like chimneys, and not wash our hands before we eat. But that’s just common sense.

34 posted on 04/21/2007 11:43:17 AM PDT by Liberty Rattler (Don't tread on me!)
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To: DouglasKC

Gen 9:2 And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth [upon] the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered.

Gen 9:3 Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.


35 posted on 04/21/2007 11:43:28 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: DouglasKC
I sure hope there's barbecue in Heaven.

Can't imagine spending eternity without some baby back ribs or pulled pork with my favorite barbecue sauce.

36 posted on 04/21/2007 11:48:48 AM PDT by Rum Tum Tugger
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
Gen 9:2 And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth [upon] the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered.
Gen 9:3 Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.

EVERY moving thing that lives? Poisonous tree frogs? Poisonous fish? Every green thing? Nightshade? Belladonna?

37 posted on 04/21/2007 11:50:45 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Rum Tum Tugger
I sure hope there's barbecue in Heaven.
Can't imagine spending eternity without some baby back ribs or pulled pork with my favorite barbecue sauce.

You better get used to it: :-)

Isa 66:15 For, behold, the LORD will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.
Isa 66:16 For by fire and by his sword will the LORD plead with all flesh: and the slain of the LORD shall be many.
Isa 66:17 They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.
Isa 66:18 For I know their works and their thoughts: it shall come, that I will gather all nations and tongues; and they shall come, and see my glory.

38 posted on 04/21/2007 11:53:22 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Liberty Rattler

I’ll drink to that!


39 posted on 04/21/2007 12:01:05 PM PDT by colorcountry (He Who the Son Has Set Free, Is Free Indeed)
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To: DouglasKC
Gal 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.

do you keep this part of the old law ?

Exo 21:17 And he that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death.

To many just want to pick and choses parts of the old law. That law was done away.
Wake and learn the truth.

40 posted on 04/21/2007 12:05:20 PM PDT by bremenboy (Just Because I Am Born Again Doesn't Mean I was Born Again Yesterday)
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To: DouglasKC; Rum Tum Tugger
All that fire and flesh. Sounds like a bar-b-q to me.

Just be sure you don’t consume mouse and abomination along with your pork-ribs and eat in moderation and I’m sure you’ll be alright.

BTW, mayhap you should research the linkage between rodents and trichinosis.

41 posted on 04/21/2007 12:05:59 PM PDT by Liberty Rattler (Don't tread on me!)
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To: DouglasKC

“Would Jesus wear a Rolex on his television show?”


42 posted on 04/21/2007 12:23:51 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("And he had turned the Prime Minister's teacup into a gerbil.")
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To: bremenboy
Gal 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.

In Galatians, Paul is also often referring to JEWISH "laws" which are not necessarily scriptural. For example:

Gal 2:11 But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed.
Gal 2:12 For before that certain came from James, he did eat with the Gentiles: but when they were come, he withdrew and separated himself, fearing them which were of the circumcision.

Here Paul upbraids Peter for adhering to JEWISH customs. There is no SCRIPTURAL injunctions for Jews NOT to eat with gentiles. But the Jews, the Judiazers, were concerned about the aspects of "uncleanliness" that had built up about gentiles. These are the kinds of aspects of the "law" that Paul often referred to.

do you keep this part of the old law ?
Exo 21:17 And he that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death.

Israel, when God created it, was a theocracy with God as it's head. This is a criminal penalty for violation of a criminal law for the theocracy of Israel that existed at that time.

To many just want to pick and choses parts of the old law. That law was done away. Wake and learn the truth.

You would do well to study all aspects of "law" as it's applied and used in scripture.

43 posted on 04/21/2007 12:37:40 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC
"He already knew what the vision did not mean."

Nonsense.

Acts 10:

Verse 10, Peter became hungry while they were preparing (gentile) food.

Verse 11-13, Jesus tells Peter to chow down.

Peter wasn't dreaming of eating Cornelius.

Verse 23, Peter stayed the night.

Do you think he went hungry?

44 posted on 04/21/2007 12:38:45 PM PDT by Enosh ()
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To: Tax-chick
“Would Jesus wear a Rolex on his television show?

Would Christ need a watch or a television show?

45 posted on 04/21/2007 12:39:41 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Enosh
Acts 10: Verse 10, Peter became hungry while they were preparing (gentile) food.

Who was preparing "gentile" food and where does it say that in scripture?

Verse 11-13, Jesus tells Peter to chow down.

And Peter promptly disobeyed his Lord and Master:

Act 10:14 But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.

Peter wasn't dreaming of eating Cornelius. Verse 23, Peter stayed the night.

Scripture tells us EXACTLY what Peter's vision meant, or at least what Peter thought it meant.

Act 10:28 And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath showed me that I should not call any man common or unclean.

Now since this was written people have interpreted scripture and Peter's vision much differently than he did. But that's their problem.

46 posted on 04/21/2007 12:44:02 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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The issue of the day was the admission of Gentiles into the majority-Jewish group that followed the teachings of Christ. Stuff like what food we eat is not important; the admission of all peoples into full membership in the church was important.


47 posted on 04/21/2007 12:47:11 PM PDT by firebrand
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"but God hath showed me that I should not call any man common or unclean."

That's right. This was to further illustrate that gentiles are also saved through Christ. Food doesn't matter, circumcision doesn't matter, etc.

48 posted on 04/21/2007 12:50:25 PM PDT by Enosh ()
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That's right. This was to further illustrate that gentiles are also saved through Christ. Food doesn't matter, circumcision doesn't matter, etc.

RITUAL aspects ADDED by Jewish tradition and law didn't matter. But God given commands about what types of meat were to be consumed DID matter. In Acts 10, nobody took Peter's vision to mean that they could eat pork. The only scriptures they had TOLD them that God had commanded that they not do it. That's why Peter didn't eat. Acts 10 occurred anywhere from 20 to 30 years after the death of Christ, but in all that time Peter never ate any unclean meats. It wasn't a teaching of Christ that the food laws he created were done away with.

49 posted on 04/21/2007 12:58:36 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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“Does anybody really know what time it is? Does anybody really care?”


50 posted on 04/21/2007 1:00:26 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("And he had turned the Prime Minister's teacup into a gerbil.")
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