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St. Louis media actively seeks public opinion about archbishop’s decision re Crow
Catholic News Agency ^ | April 30, 2007

Posted on 04/30/2007 1:20:31 PM PDT by NYer

New York, Apr 30, 2007 / 11:23 am (CNA).- The St. Louis media seems to be running a campaign against the Catholic Church, following Archbishop Raymond Burke’s protest of abortion-activist Sheryl Crow’s performance at a Catholic hospital fundraiser.

The St. Louis Post-Dispatch and KMOV (CBS affiliate), in particular, have invited the public to voice its opinion over the archbishop’s decision.

Catholic League president Bill Donohue says the “voyeuristic posture assumed by these two media outlets is not legitimate.

According to Donohue, the St. Louis Post-Dispatch “is inviting non-Catholics to opine about an internal matter of the St. Louis Archdiocese, beckoning the bigots to post their hatred on its website.

“It has even gone so far as to run a punch line cartoon on this issue, asking the public to submit a caption,” reported Donohue.

“KMOV is also playing voyeur by asking Protestants, Jews, Muslims, agnostics and atheists to stick their noses into the business of another religion,” he added.

Furthermore, the station has four surveys on its website on the Catholic Church. However, Donohue notes, “no other religion is open for question.”


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: abortion; anticatholic; archbishopburke; burke; catholicchurch; crow; liberalbigots; mediabias; mo; prolife; sherylcrow; stl

1 posted on 04/30/2007 1:20:36 PM PDT by NYer
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To: Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...

At first glance, the Cardinal Glennon-Sheryl Crow dispute might look like a power struggle between a hospital and an archbishop. In fact, it raises two important moral principles that all of us have to wrestle with in the ordinary choices we make every day.

The first is scandal. When we describe something as "scandalous," we usually mean shocking or disgraceful. A better understanding of the word is, as Archbishop Burke noted, to do something that leads another person into evil. Scandal is a "stumbling stone" — an action that gives respectability to moral wrong and leads me to make a bad choice. Individuals can cause scandal (e.g., by giving a bad example to a child or a subordinate). Corporate scandal is worse because corporations have more power, status and influence in society. It is worse still when it involves a faith-based corporation because these organizations have a religious mission and enjoy the public trust. We hold them and their leaders to a higher standard. They must assess their alliances very carefully to avoid even the appearance of wrongdoing or ethical carelessness.

The second principle is cooperation, which asks, "How close can I get to the evil action or intention of another before I get morally implicated myself?" The simplest case is the driver of the getaway car in a bank robbery. Is she morally complicit if she not only drives the car but plans the robbery as well? Surely. Is she morally involved if she drives the getaway car but thinks the robber is just cashing a paycheck? Perhaps not. If she just loans her car not knowing what it will be used for or the car is used without her permission? Probably not. In each case, my lack of knowledge or shared intent diminishes my moral responsibility.

As citizens, all of us are called to work together for the common good. If we participate in a pluralistic society, however, absolute moral purity is impossible. We will inevitably find ourselves working with folks whose beliefs we do not share. This doesn't necessarily mean that we can't work side by side with other volunteers on a Habitat for Humanity build who might hold views we consider to be immoral.
May I contribute to an organization that supports two kinds of work, one morally good and the other morally objectionable, or see a movie produced by an anti-Semite, or buy a product made with child labor? Perhaps, but only if in my best judgment I can say that I do not share the intention of the evildoer and that I am not causing scandal by appearing to do so. Moral choices are rarely crystal clear. The Cardinal Glennon officials surely did not intend to endorse the performer's views when they invited her, but many feel the connection was too close for comfort. As a church leader, the Archbishop was obliged to clarify his stance to avoid scandal. For the rest of us — individuals and institutions alike — this controversy provides an opportunity to examine what we choose, whom we cooperate with, and how our choices may influence others.

Charles E. Bouchard, O.P., is president of Aquinas Institute of Theology.

POLL: Do you agree with the archbishop's stance?

Vote here

2 posted on 04/30/2007 1:23:36 PM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: NYer

1 man + the truth = majority


3 posted on 04/30/2007 1:25:10 PM PDT by Mach5
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To: NYer

Do you agree with the archbishop’s stance?

31%
Yes

67%
No

1%
I don’t know

Votes: 5,279
Polls are unscientific, reflecting only the views of those who choose to participate.


4 posted on 04/30/2007 1:26:35 PM PDT by weegee (Libs want us to learn to live with terrorism, but if a gun is used they want to rewrite the Const.)
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To: NYer

Remember how the idol-makers in Ephesus tried to rouse the mob against Paul? Nothing new here.


5 posted on 04/30/2007 1:27:15 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: NYer

"Welcome to Punch Line, our new Friday feature! We supply the unfinished cartoon, you supply the captions, and then you vote for the winner..."

6 posted on 04/30/2007 1:28:30 PM PDT by weegee (Libs want us to learn to live with terrorism, but if a gun is used they want to rewrite the Const.)
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To: NYer

I voted and apparently the masses think he is wrong. I voted he was right. To follow Jesus means we WILL be shunned by the world. So be it.


7 posted on 04/30/2007 1:31:00 PM PDT by tioga
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To: NYer
Go to the poll and vote: Vote for the Bishop!
8 posted on 04/30/2007 1:31:07 PM PDT by klossg (GK - God is good!)
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To: weegee

The cartoon SHOULD portray the bishop as praying for those entering. THEN it would be accurate.


9 posted on 04/30/2007 1:33:05 PM PDT by tioga
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To: NYer

He SHOULD have taken a swipe at her, provided he only used one square.


10 posted on 04/30/2007 1:35:11 PM PDT by SmithL (si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: weegee

same results for me, including vote count.

God bless ArchBishop Burke.


11 posted on 04/30/2007 1:35:53 PM PDT by Nihil Obstat (Kyrie Eleison)
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To: Nihil Obstat

Some update tallies on a periodic basis. Some “lock” results altogether.

I’ve actually seen the Atlanta Urinal-Constipation dump poll results when they didn’t go the way they wanted and started over.


12 posted on 04/30/2007 1:38:23 PM PDT by weegee (Libs want us to learn to live with terrorism, but if a gun is used they want to rewrite the Const.)
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To: NYer
Mr. Burke is absolutely correct that this is an internal matter of the St. Louis Archdiocese. It really doesn't matter what any non-RCCer thinks (including myself).

It is no surprise the ultra-liberal St. Louis "slimedia", of which the Post-Dispatch is an anchoring member, would actively seek to dampen any moral certitude regardless the quarter of origination, including the Roman Catholic Church. That should speak volumes to everyone about the determination of the amoral, relativistic enemy, especially considering the majority catholic population of the St. Louis area.

13 posted on 04/30/2007 2:13:27 PM PDT by pjr12345 (What is it about "The Terrorists want to kill us!" don't you people understand?)
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To: NYer

It’s not easy being Catholic. And, that’s just one of the things I like about it.


14 posted on 04/30/2007 3:46:27 PM PDT by Barnacle (Hunter, Thompson, Gingrich, Tancredo, whoever. Just vote Conservative.)
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To: NYer
(Let's try that again.)

It’s not easy being Catholic. And, that’s just one of the things I like about it.

15 posted on 04/30/2007 3:47:38 PM PDT by Barnacle (Hunter, Thompson, Gingrich, Tancredo, whoever. Just vote Conservative.)
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To: weegee

Hey ... that’s great!!! Thanks for posting it to this thread!


16 posted on 04/30/2007 4:07:40 PM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; annalex; ...
Archbishop (Burke) blasts Sheryl Crow appearance
St. Louis archbishop tangles with Sheryl Crow [over abortion]
St. Louis media actively seeks public opinion about archbishop’s decision re Crow
Hospital fundraiser opens on a light note (Hosts joke about bishop's absence over Cheryl Crowe)
Photo of Rabid Dog Sheryl Crow With Ears Back and Fangs Out Stalking Rove [WHCA Dinner]
Get out of San Francisco!" (San Fran Board Supervisors Condemns Catholic Church)
Gay Agenda Gets Violent Against Catholics
Cartoon to tempt teenagers into priesthood (absurd idea alert!)
Abortion Ruling Raises Backlash for Catholic Justices (BARF alert)
Pro-Life Group Blasts Philadelphia Inquirer's Anti-Catholic Abortion Cartoon
Vatican newspaper denounces reporter who posed as penitent for expose
Vatican in unholy row over Jesus party wig

17 posted on 04/30/2007 4:08:42 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, insects)
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To: tioga
I voted and apparently the masses think he is wrong. I voted he was right. To follow Jesus means we WILL be shunned by the world. So be it.

It bears remembering that "the masses" voted for Barabbas too. Most of the time, I'm not impressed with the wisdom of the masses when they are whipped into an anti-Christian frenzy by the popular figures of the day.

The really sad thing (for those for whom the day will be a terrible judgment) for Sheryl Crow and those like her is that one day they will have to bow before Him Through Whom All Things Were Made and give account of their lives and actions. Being complicit in the slaughter of millions of innocent children is something I don't think will play very well with God.

18 posted on 04/30/2007 4:25:10 PM PDT by chimera
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To: NYer

Under the category of unintended consequences, this liberal media atttack may make the good Archbishop well known and popular among faithful Catholics. Wouldn’t that be nice.


19 posted on 04/30/2007 4:46:27 PM PDT by Daffy
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To: chimera
Most of the time, I'm not impressed with the wisdom of the masses when they are whipped into an anti-Christian frenzy by the popular figures of the day.

Exactly.

20 posted on 04/30/2007 4:48:56 PM PDT by livius
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To: Jim Robinson
Should there be some possible Freeper Activism on this? Or should this be a Catholic only thing?

Maybe people should start an email/web campaign to unsubscribe to the newspaper.

When the NY Times tried to investigate the kids of SCOTUS Chief Justice Roberts, there was quite an uproar against the NY Times...

21 posted on 04/30/2007 7:12:28 PM PDT by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: topher
Phone numbers for Saint Louis Post Dispatch:

1-800-365-0820 (ext. 8000) -- Main Line
1-800-365-0820 (ext. 8888) -- Subscriptions
1-800-365-0820 -- Classified Advertising
1-800-766-3278

Maybe you can email this to your Catholic friends and ask them to call the newspaper.

One can always explain that one is upset on what is viewed as an attack on the Catholic Church, ask them if they think that it will help/hurt their subscriptions/advertising...

22 posted on 04/30/2007 7:34:45 PM PDT by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: topher
These are from the webpage:

http://www.stltoday.com/help/contact-us

The Phone Number 1-800-766-3278 is for the Suburban Journals Classified Advertising for the Saint Louis Post Dispatch...

23 posted on 04/30/2007 7:49:53 PM PDT by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: Salvation; NYer
Last Sunday was Shepherd Sunday.

It is my opinion that Catholics should voice an opinion against what this Newspaper is doing.

They can call the Toll Free or 800 numbers and voice their concerns.

This will be listened to by the newspaper, as it will cost time and money to the newspaper and interrupt services if they are flooded with calls across the country.

When the New York Times misquoted Archbishop Chaput during the 2004 election, Catholics in New York City raised quite a stink about it, and the Newspaper, along with pressure from the Archbishop, had to make compensatory measures -- such as giving Archbishop Chaput a Column in the NY Times.

I have posted phone numbers. Emails can be deleted. The most effective way to reach a newspaper is by calling them.

Discern your own action and ping other people if you agree...

(See my post with phone numbers and/or the post with contact information. Maybe letters to the editor are appropriate...)

24 posted on 04/30/2007 7:55:13 PM PDT by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: livius; NYer; Siobhan; sandyeggo
Hi, livius. I hope everyone is calling the chancery in St. Louis to support the Archbishop.

I also hope everyone is calling these media outlets and condemning their anti-Catholic bigotry and demanding to speak to everyone possible at those outlets to voice our displeasure.

Has anyone contacted the Maronites in St. Louis to encourage them to Archbishop Burke in a big way? A Maronite picket and boycott sounds like a great idea to me.

25 posted on 04/30/2007 8:47:02 PM PDT by Maeve (Do you have supplies for an extended emergency? Be prepared! Pray!)
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To: topher
I saw an interesting link on the Drudge Report. It showed the latest circulation figures for major newspapers. Assuming they aren't still fudging their numbers, the God-hating leftist rags were generally in decline, while the more responsible, fair-minded papers were generally increasing circulation.

Here's the link (sorry I forgot how to make a hyperlink):

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070430/newspapers_circulation.html?.v=1

26 posted on 04/30/2007 9:33:06 PM PDT by pjr12345 (What is it about "The Terrorists want to kill us!" don't you people understand?)
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To: Nihil Obstat

I am Jewish and I think the Bishop is correct. In fact, Hillary Clinton, who is vehemently pro abortion, should be banned from addressing Catholic groups and Catholic charities.


27 posted on 05/23/2007 11:59:52 AM PDT by juliej (vote gop)
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