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Episcopal cathedral sold Unnamed buyer to pay $1.275M for 38-year-old landmark (ECUSA)
kalamazoogazette ^ | April 30, 2007 | Tom Haroldson

Posted on 05/09/2007 10:04:20 AM PDT by PAR35

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The world's ugliest Cathedral has been sold. There were some earlier threads about it being on the market, but I don't recall seeing where a contract had been signed.
1 posted on 05/09/2007 10:04:26 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: AnAmericanMother; Tax-chick; Huber; sionnsar

Possibility of a sale discussed here:

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1777036/posts


2 posted on 05/09/2007 10:17:07 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: PAR35
The world's ugliest Cathedral

It's not the prettiest, is it?


3 posted on 05/09/2007 10:33:26 AM PDT by proud_2_B_texasgal (If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a)
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To: proud_2_B_texasgal
Yikes. That makes the Catholic Cathedral in LA look gorgeous by comparison.

What is that outbuilding pictured?

An industrial baptistery?

4 posted on 05/09/2007 10:39:05 AM PDT by wideawake
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5 posted on 05/09/2007 10:48:38 AM PDT by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: proud_2_B_texasgal

YAK...Who would by such a piece of garbage? The Zambodians?
It is even too ugly to be a factory or a power plant.


6 posted on 05/09/2007 10:56:19 AM PDT by AlexW (Reporting from Bratislava, Slovakia)
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To: wideawake
I think they forgot to put in the plumbing and it's a Necessary House.


7 posted on 05/09/2007 11:18:25 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: proud_2_B_texasgal
Take out the bells, put on a roof, and you have a minaret.
8 posted on 05/09/2007 11:29:01 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: AlexW

I saw speculation at one point that the site would be a good one for a hotel.


9 posted on 05/09/2007 11:29:47 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: proud_2_B_texasgal
Holy crap, but that's an ugly pile of bricks.

It'd be a great fire station, though -- you could dry a lot of hoses in those towers.

10 posted on 05/09/2007 11:32:14 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: proud_2_B_texasgal

I think it would make a pretty cool power plant.


11 posted on 05/09/2007 11:38:36 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: PAR35

That was my first thought, too. The Saudis are always out buying up buildings in small US cities for (at present unneeded) mosques, and this one seems ready-made...


12 posted on 05/09/2007 11:42:42 AM PDT by livius
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To: PAR35

I thought you were joking when you said the World’s Ugliest Cathedral... But looking at that picture, all I can say is, “Yup!”


13 posted on 05/09/2007 11:51:58 AM PDT by gridlock (On January 20, 2009, Fred Dalton Thompson will be sworn in as President of the United States.)
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To: proud_2_B_texasgal
I was about to ask who could lose three-quarters of a million on a long term real estate investment (barring Florida swampland or a Hawaiian volcano) until I saw that picture you posted.

Yeah, building something that damned ugly will kill your property values, sho’nuff.

14 posted on 05/09/2007 12:03:23 PM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: FormerLib

It’s just a weird lookin’ building, isn’t it?.. LOL.


15 posted on 05/09/2007 12:07:06 PM PDT by proud_2_B_texasgal (If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a)
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To: proud_2_B_texasgal

The inside is just as Fugly.
This is a Work that “Father” Vosko would be proud of.


16 posted on 05/09/2007 12:07:25 PM PDT by JustMytwocents70
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To: proud_2_B_texasgal
It’s just a weird lookin’ building, isn’t it?.. LOL.

I guess that's about the most charitable thing that could be said of it, actually.

17 posted on 05/09/2007 12:16:00 PM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: JustMytwocents70

“...a Work that “Father” Vosko would be proud of.”

Or perhaps one der Fuehrer would be proud of (needs more smoke stacks).


18 posted on 05/09/2007 12:41:27 PM PDT by beelzepug (...making a sound like Lurch)
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To: proud_2_B_texasgal
I think the Los Angeles (nominally) Catholic Cathedral is uglier. Although the architectural theme of this cathedral is abhorrent, at least it has one. compare:

The Taj Mahony just looks like a misplaced factory.
19 posted on 05/09/2007 12:43:15 PM PDT by dangus
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Ohhhhhhhhh, or a weird-themed Vegas hotel .. hmmmmmmmm.


20 posted on 05/09/2007 12:44:49 PM PDT by proud_2_B_texasgal (If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a)
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To: proud_2_B_texasgal

... if Vegas ever decides to go for a “Martian Chronicles” theme.


21 posted on 05/09/2007 12:51:44 PM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus

yeah ........ that.


22 posted on 05/09/2007 1:35:03 PM PDT by proud_2_B_texasgal (If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a)
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To: proud_2_B_texasgal

One word -—Why?


23 posted on 05/09/2007 2:12:23 PM PDT by x_plus_one (As long as we pretend to not be fighting Iran in Iraq, we can't pretend to win the war.)
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To: x_plus_one
It probably seemed like a good idea at the time (fueled by plenty of 60's acid).

There is nothing so dated as something that was once considered the wave of the future.

24 posted on 05/09/2007 2:29:44 PM PDT by Martin Tell ("It is the right, good old way you are in: keep in it.")
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To: Martin Tell; x_plus_one
There is nothing so dated as something that was once considered the wave of the future.

The chutzpah of these people who imagined that THEY knew better than a thousand years of church history. . . .

Why, indeed?

25 posted on 05/09/2007 4:49:25 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: PAR35

Looks like a cement factory. Or something out of Nazi Germany death camps.
No intention to glorify God.


26 posted on 05/09/2007 7:02:37 PM PDT by Bainbridge
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To: PAR35
It does like they have a full ring of REAL bells, though . . .

I hope somebody saves them, if they're any good.

Dove's Guide for Church Bell Ringers

27 posted on 05/09/2007 7:15:30 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: PAR35
I just realized that this cathedral and my dear second dog both are from Portage!

They may have the world's ugliest cathedral, but they have some very pretty dogs there!


At eight weeks, looking so cute it ought to be illegal.

28 posted on 05/09/2007 7:18:11 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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They are selling the organ separately. I’d bet they’ll look for a good offer on the bells as well. Given the current market for scrap, they might just sell them to a recycler.


29 posted on 05/09/2007 7:25:19 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: dangus
I have had sympathy for the architecturally deficient Roman Catholic brethren, but we now see that bad architecture spans the denominations and faiths. I have seen some Baptist buildings that would make great Country Western performance venues, some Apostles of God sanctuarys that would make a Jimmy Swaggart weak in the knees and now this thing.

I love to see a the great architectural attempt, I love Thorne Crown for example, but some of what has come along in the last fifty years are just obnoxious.

30 posted on 05/09/2007 7:26:05 PM PDT by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free...their passions forge their fetters.)
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To: gridlock

We highjacked a thread into a discussion of ugly churches one night. That one won.


31 posted on 05/09/2007 7:28:21 PM PDT by PAR35
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Never mind, it's a carillon.

I went to the website and found out what that strange round structure is out front.

Some members of the parish gave the cathedral some bas-reliefs (done in a 30s style but thankfully not the Socialist Realism of Rockwell Kent) from an old store that was wrecked out in downtown Portage. So they built that strange incinerator-looking thing to display them.

That's "Commerce" and "Agriculture" - on the other side are "Industry" and "Art" - looking like nothing so much as a 1930s version of Achilles (although he's holding a caduceus so he ought to be Hermes) and Marianne (the symbol of France - although she's holding a little Nike so she ought to be Athena). But the Nike, not the wreath she's holding, ought to have the wings. The symbolism is a terrible mish-mash.

On the website they have some folderol about the bas-reliefs representing the church's duty to serve all diverse people, but that sounds like "somebody we don't want to offend gave us these and we have NO idea what to do with them, or say about it."

Clearly these folks don't plan well in any respect.

32 posted on 05/09/2007 7:31:03 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: beelzepug
Or perhaps one der Fuehrer would be proud of

You insult Hitler. He actually would have made a fairly good architect - and the world might have been better off if he had gone into that line. But he wanted to be an artist.

33 posted on 05/09/2007 7:31:23 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: AnAmericanMother

Not all newer attempts that are outside the box turn out to miss the mark. Take a look at Thorne Crown outside Eureka Springs in northwest Arkansas at http://travel.webshots.com/photo/2764753780015621458nmqFkl


34 posted on 05/09/2007 7:35:56 PM PDT by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free...their passions forge their fetters.)
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To: PAR35
I have passed the word to our music director - our church needs a new organ.

The Aeolian-Skinners are out of fashion right now, if I recall what he told me in the music course he taught last semester . . . but I let him know anyway. Maybe we can get a deal.

35 posted on 05/09/2007 7:37:23 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: KC Burke

More shots of Thorn Crown at http://www.webshots.com/search?media=photo&query=Thorne+Crown+Arkansas&queryChannel=&sortBy=&source=search_menu


36 posted on 05/09/2007 7:38:38 PM PDT by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free...their passions forge their fetters.)
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To: KC Burke

more http://www.thorncrown.com/Photogallery1/index.html


37 posted on 05/09/2007 7:41:28 PM PDT by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free...their passions forge their fetters.)
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To: KC Burke
That actually looks backward to the old Stave Churches of Norway . . .

But it's got its insides showing.


38 posted on 05/09/2007 7:42:27 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: AnAmericanMother

Come on, the French couldn’t even get the towers to match on the first of your good examples. At least the Germans can make them look the same: http://www.koelner-dom.de/


39 posted on 05/09/2007 7:43:28 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: PAR35
Not always . . .

Close but no cigar (naturally it's the Bavarians).

My personal favorite for pure exuberance is Santiago de Compostela:

Daughter was there last summer and had a ball . . .

40 posted on 05/09/2007 7:51:01 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: AnAmericanMother

Sainte Chapelle’s small cathedral of light was Fay Jones inspiration for his masterpiece. he called it Ozark Gothic. For Saint Chappelle:http://www.discoverfrance.net/France/Cathedrals/Paris/Sainte-Chapelle.shtml


41 posted on 05/09/2007 7:51:44 PM PDT by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free...their passions forge their fetters.)
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our church needs a new organ.

We are in the final stages of installing a new organ. It was about a 5 year project, start to finish. Ours is supposed to be very similar to this one in Houston:
http://www.stmartinsepiscopal.org/schoenstein.htm

These folks seem to deal in used organs:
http://www.organclearinghouse.com/services.php

42 posted on 05/09/2007 7:58:10 PM PDT by PAR35
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I can see the nod to the unusual exterior proportions - the tall rectangle -

But I can't see the connection with the interior at all -

It was the descending, interlocking interior beams that made me think of the stave churches. That's how they're built.

43 posted on 05/09/2007 7:59:59 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: AnAmericanMother
I think it is the airey, awash in natural light, interior.

I have a friend that is a Mexican Architect from central Mexico who was educated in the US in the sixties. He had heard of Thorncrown but never seen more than a small snapshot. We were driving through that area on a leasurly business trip and I took him by there. We arrived on a misty morning without anyone but us around and walked through the mountain mists and into the chapel alone in silence.

We sat in a pew for about five minutes without a word exchanged. He turned to me and whispered: wow!!!

44 posted on 05/09/2007 8:07:24 PM PDT by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free...their passions forge their fetters.)
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To: AnAmericanMother

Jones wanted it built without disturbing the site. The property Owner had built it as personal gift to the area community and almost couldn’t get it finished. Jones desinged it so the trusses could be built on the flagstone floor and raised in place and all the members and glass plates could be hand carried to the site.

Construction photos
http://libinfo.uark.edu/specialcollections/manuscripts/FayJones/projectgallery.asp?project=THO1980&image=THO1980%5B10%5Dweb.jpg&caption=Looking%20up%20at%20Thorncrown%20from%20exterior&photographer=Fay%20Jones%20Studio


45 posted on 05/09/2007 8:13:11 PM PDT by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free...their passions forge their fetters.)
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To: proud_2_B_texasgal

I think I have see it. Right by the Interstate, right? UGHlee!


46 posted on 05/09/2007 8:18:40 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: PAR35
The world's ugliest Cathedral...

Oh I'm not so sure, I think there may be a tie for that title.


47 posted on 05/09/2007 9:16:10 PM PDT by murphE (These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
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The Taj Mahony just looks like a misplaced factory prison.
48 posted on 05/09/2007 9:18:16 PM PDT by murphE (These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
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To: proud_2_B_texasgal
Right up there with this hideous cathedral in Burlington, Vermont.


49 posted on 05/09/2007 9:21:50 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Straight Vermonter

Is that Cathedral called Glory to Cement Block?


50 posted on 05/10/2007 1:20:40 AM PDT by neb52
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