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Colombian Jesuit says Madonna’s concert “crucifixion” is example of evangelization
Catholic News Agency ^ | May 24, 2007

Posted on 05/29/2007 9:37:00 AM PDT by NYer

The Colombian daily, “El Tiempo,” published a column by a priest who said he has seen Madonna’s DVD of her latest concert tour and defends her “crucifixion” and nudity and calls the show a model of evangelization.

In a column entitled, “Madonna: A Suggestive Presentation of Jesus,” Father Carlos Novoa, SJ, ex-dean of the Department of Theology at the Javeriana University, said he was impressed by the “deep spirituality” of some of Madonna’s choreography and claimed her parody of the crucifixion “is not a mockery of the cross, but rather the complete opposite: An exaltation of the mystery of the death and resurrection of Jesus” and a “creative and moving” work of art.

Father Novoa said the DVD recording of Madonna’s “The Confessions Tour” was something worth viewing for its “high aesthetic quality.”  The song “Live to Tell,” in which Madonna is “crucified,” “is one of the best sermons I have witnessed in my life,” and he challenged Catholics to follow the example of the singer.

“In this postmodern, skeptic world in which so many people abhor or are simply uninterested in the faith, will ministers of the Church and Catholics in general have this audacity and this creativity to communicate a Jesus who truly shakes people up on the inside?” Novoa wondered.

The Jesuit priest also defended “masculine and feminine nudity,” expressed not through “cheap pornography” but through “erotic beauty.” He compared Madonna’s choreography and nudity with the works of Michelangelo, “who filled the walls of the Sistine Chapel, the sacrosanct place where the Holy Father is elected, with frescoes of nude men and women.”
 
Father Novoa said renowned artists and art critics consider Madonna to be “one of the best choreographers of our times.”  “In her excellent stage presentations, she sometimes makes use of both male and female nudes, which scandalizes some, as in the case of Michelangelo,” he claimed.

Novoa acknowledged that some of Madonna’s antics are “ridiculous,” but, he claimed, “they said the same thing about Beethoven when he debuted some of his best compositions and about Picasso, one of the great guides posts of modern-day art, when he presented his master works in 1907: Les Demoiselles d'Avignon.


TOPICS: Catholic; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: colombia; evangelization; jesuit; madonna

1 posted on 05/29/2007 9:37:06 AM PDT by NYer
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To: Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...
The song “Live to Tell,” in which Madonna is “crucified,” “is one of the best sermons I have witnessed in my life,” and he challenged Catholics to follow the example of the singer.

Holy moly!

2 posted on 05/29/2007 9:39:00 AM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: NYer

Yes. And “Like a Virgin” is really promoting chastity, too!


3 posted on 05/29/2007 9:39:46 AM PDT by Hegemony Cricket (Tradition is merely a group effort to prevent the unexpected)
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To: NYer
Father Carlos Novoa, SJ, ex-dean of the Department of Theology at the Javeriana University wants to have sex with Madonna.
4 posted on 05/29/2007 9:46:20 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: NYer
a “creative and moving” work of art.

There's must be a translation problem. He probably meant to say "derivative and puerile".

5 posted on 05/29/2007 9:47:49 AM PDT by siunevada (If we learn nothing from history, what's the point of having one? - Peggy Hill)
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To: NYer

Yeah, and if you squint your eyes and look at a swastika from a distance, it might look like a cross. What the hell is wrong with these people?


6 posted on 05/29/2007 9:51:47 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna)
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To: NYer
OK, I read the lyrics but fail to see the greatest sermon ever.  Maybe someone can enlighten me.
 
Live To Tell Lyrics
Artist(Band):Madonna
   

I have a tale to tell
Sometimes it gets so hard to hide it well
I was not ready for the fall
Too blind to see the writing on the wall

Chorus:

A man can tell a thousand lies
I've learned my lesson well
Hope I live to tell
The secret I have learned, 'till then
It will burn inside of me

I know where beauty lives
I've seen it once, I know the warm she gives
The light that you could never see
It shines inside, you can't take that from me

(chorus)

2nd Chorus:

The truth is never far behind
You kept it hidden well
If I live to tell
The secret I knew then
Will I ever have the chance again

If I ran away, I'd never have the strength
To go very far
How would they hear the beating of my heart
Will it grow cold
The secret that I hide, will I grow old
How will they hear
When will they learn
How will they know

(chorus)
(2nd chorus)
 


7 posted on 05/29/2007 10:10:11 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Rutles4Ever
What the hell is wrong with these people?

I think you've answered your own question. ;O)

8 posted on 05/29/2007 10:13:24 AM PDT by HarleyD
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To: NYer

Fifty years ago the Jesuits were intellectual giants, although a bit arrogant from time to time.
What happened to them?


9 posted on 05/29/2007 11:34:01 AM PDT by rogator
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To: Always Right

Considering she is a cabbalist, I don’t see where she can make any sermon at all.


10 posted on 05/29/2007 12:27:52 PM PDT by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
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To: NYer

Oh man, this sort of thing just makes me want to crawl up into a fetal position and weep.


11 posted on 05/29/2007 3:15:26 PM PDT by marsh_of_mists
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To: NYer

Why am I not surprised this is a Jesuit?


12 posted on 05/29/2007 3:53:42 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("Is there any extra food around here anywhere?")
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To: rogator
Fifty years ago the Jesuits were intellectual giants, although a bit arrogant from time to time. What happened to them?

It's a head scratcher. One can only conclude they have accepted the wrong candidates into their program. Time for concerted prayer for the Jesuits.

13 posted on 05/29/2007 4:38:11 PM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: NYer
"In this postmodern, skeptic world in which so many people abhor or are simply uninterested in the faith, will ministers of the Church and Catholics in general have this audacity and this creativity to communicate a Jesus who truly shakes people up on the inside?” Novoa wondered.

What a complete idiot. Meditating on the Word of the Lord is all you need to "shake people up on the inside." Running around on a stage with your cloths half-off, with the singing voice of jackel for a cheap thrill will certainly lead no one to Jesus.

14 posted on 05/29/2007 5:51:18 PM PDT by Gerish (Feed your faith and your doubts will starve to death.)
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To: Dominick
Madonna is neither a Kabbalist, nor is she an Evangelist. While she might try to shirk the title she is without a doubt a capitalist. In deference to the Christian community here at FR I will simply state that she is best described by a two syllable compound word, the first of which is “media”.
15 posted on 05/29/2007 6:01:50 PM PDT by incredulous joe (("And I want to thank you for all the enjoyment you've taken out of it." -- Groucho)
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To: marsh_of_mists
Turn those lemons into lemonade,...get on your knees.

I have a friend who will be ordained in 3 weeks through the Diocese of Baltimore. His name is Jesse and he will undoubtedly be an excellent and faithful servant of Christ.

Please pray for him during these next few weeks.

16 posted on 05/29/2007 6:05:38 PM PDT by incredulous joe (("And I want to thank you for all the enjoyment you've taken out of it." -- Groucho)
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To: Always Right

It’s all up to interpretation. A few years ago I gave a second listen to “Lovesong” by The Cure and thought it was about Eucharistic Adoration. Now I can never go back to the figure ground this simple love song, and I like the tune even more to boot.

Whenever I’m alone with you
You make me feel like I am home again
Whenever I’m alone with you
You make me feel like I am whole again
Whenever I’m alone with you
You make me feel like I am young again
Whenever I’m alone with you
You make me feel like I am fun again

However far away I will always love you
However long I stay I will always love you
Whatever words I say I will always love you
I will always love you

Whenever I’m alone with you
You make me feel like I am free again
Whenever I’m alone with you
You make me feel like I am clean again

However far away I will always love you
However long I stay I will always love you
Whatever words I say I will always love you
I will always love you


17 posted on 05/29/2007 6:12:19 PM PDT by incredulous joe (("And I want to thank you for all the enjoyment you've taken out of it." -- Groucho)
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To: NYer
Well whaddya know?!

A Jesuit groupie! Over 10 years of priestly formation and this is what you get.

The impressive riches of Jesuit academia evident for all to see.

18 posted on 05/29/2007 7:56:33 PM PDT by marshmallow
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To: NYer

Reminds me of the priest who called for the “snuff(ing)” of the gun shop owner “rat”. From Chi-town, I think.


19 posted on 05/29/2007 9:15:19 PM PDT by thegreatbeast (The evil which you fear becomes a certainty by what you do.)
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To: thegreatbeast

The priest’s name: St. Sabina’s Rev. Michael L. Pfleger.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1841031/posts


20 posted on 05/29/2007 9:20:51 PM PDT by thegreatbeast (The evil which you fear becomes a certainty by what you do.)
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To: incredulous joe

There is a lot of this sort of thing in some modern lyrics. People are searching, and the Spirit speaks to them.


21 posted on 05/30/2007 10:02:35 AM PDT by Andrew Byler
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To: NYer

This is a sign of desperation .


22 posted on 05/30/2007 10:33:49 AM PDT by ears_to_hear
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To: incredulous joe

I DEFINITELY think that wasn’t the intention of The Cure, but I like where your heart is. :^D

You owe the oracle a copy of the first Christmas album to feature Fat Boy Slim’s “Praise You.”

(”I have to celebrate you, baby; I have to praise you like I should.”)


23 posted on 05/30/2007 12:02:32 PM PDT by dangus (Mr. President, "Choke on it b!+ch" is not a very good campaign slogan for your amnesty.)
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24 posted on 05/30/2007 4:05:42 PM PDT by Coleus (Pray for our Troops)
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You need a Ph.D. to come up with something like this.


25 posted on 05/30/2007 4:32:27 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: NYer

I guess the Jesuit order is sick in Columbia, too.


26 posted on 05/30/2007 5:52:19 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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http://goodjesuitbadjesuit.blogspot.com/2007/05/fr-carlos-novoa-sj-groupie-jesuit.html


27 posted on 05/30/2007 5:55:41 PM PDT by Coleus (Pray for our Troops)
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