Ahem. :)
Posted on 06/05/2007 10:53:58 AM PDT by Frank Sheed
LOL! Love it!
:)
From my experience, the Lord’s Prayer is quite popular among all Christians.
Well, duh! He'd never tasted South African Pinotage!
I said I’m only getting one when they come in a color that doesn’t show stains.
I’ve known Protestants to say that Jesus only intended His apostles to use the Lord’s Prayer, not the rest of Christianity through the ages. Or that He only intended that they should use it as a model for their own, extemporaneous prayers, not that they should use His exact words.
I hesitate to even use the term “Protestant” here, as these were people whose beliefs were so original that they had trouble finding a church - any church! - that they could bear to attend. However, there are a surprising number of them “out there.”
Ahem. :)
That's the big one. There are a few other minor quibbles, but yeah, I'm sorry to say yes.
Because saying it over and over again is just repetitive prayer its no different than what pagans do and what Christ warned us about. The ‘our farther’ was a lesson into how to pray it was not, in and of itself, the lesson.
I dont really every say the our father but I do use its framework for most of my prayers.
Thats why anecdotal evidence is not worth the electrons that transmit it. I know dozens of Christians who have been at the same church and think the our father is a prayer framework, a lesson into how to build our prayer and not just something that Christ meant us to recite over and over again 'he warns us about that immediately preceding the lesson'
From my experience, the Lord’s Prayer is quite popular among all Christians.
45 posted on 06/05/2007 3:33:57 PM MDT by Enosh
How do you read the following ?
b'shem Yah'shua
Matthew 6:6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet,
and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is
in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
Matthew 6:7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions,
as the heathen [do]: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
Red for the Holy Spirit!
I used to have a bright red t-shirt with a St. Benedict cross (from St. Benedict’s, Broken Arrow), but I gave it to my son when he needed a really big shirt after a bicycle accident, and he wore it out!
Perhaps considering the different meanings of “pray” would help you. (Try the Oxford English Dictionary! :-). There’s “Pray,” which means, “To lift up the heart and mind to God,” as the Baltimore Catechism says. And then there’s “pray,” which means, “to ask,” as in, “I pray you, FRiend, watch your language! My kids are reading over my shoulder!”
When we speak of “praying” to the saints, we mean asking them to “Pray” for us to God, just as we would ask any person at church or on FR to Pray for us.
Now some object that we can’t communicate with the saints in Heaven. I’ve personally never had a problem with talking to people I can’t see, but I guess others do. I explain to my Sunday School classes that it’s like telepathy :-).
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