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To: Alex Murphy; ArrogantBustard; P-Marlowe
"After willing the Trinity, the first thing that God wills is the humanity of Jesus."

Thank you for your posts.

I think what Danny Garland Jr. is saying is this (at least this is what Bl. John Duns Scotus says):

First, God knows and loves Himself (from all eternity, outside time, before creation).

Second, He wills to create the universe in order to communicate His glory to creatures outside Himself--first in His plan of creation is the Sacred Humanity of Christ.

I would not use the term "after willing the Trinity" (and Scotus doesn't use that terminology). However, if love is of the will, then God loves Himself (wills Himself?)--at best its not the best use of terminology; at worst it could be considered heretical. But leave that aside, the point to be discussed here is this:

Did God will the Incarnation solely as a remedy for man's sin? Or did God will first His most perfect masterpiece in all creation (the Incarnation) and then will everything else for Christ (sin or no sin)? God bless...

12 posted on 06/13/2007 8:33:35 AM PDT by fr maximilian mary ("Imitate Jesus, love Mary as your Mother." Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: fr maximilian mary; Alex Murphy; ArrogantBustard
I think what Danny Garland Jr. is saying is this...

I guess that is your own personal interpretation of Garland?

I think he made himself clear. He thinks that God became a trinity and that the trinity has not always existed. He later makes a strange statement about Jesus being a created being. And, of course, in the end he makes reference to how all of this has implications for "The Blessed Virgin." Naturally, no true Catholic article is complete without a deferential reference to the Queen of Heaven, The Mediatrix of all Grace and the Future Co-Redeemer with Christ.

14 posted on 06/13/2007 9:46:01 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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