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Myth of Boyhood
Newsweek ^ | July 2-9, 2007 issue | Jennie Yabroff

Posted on 06/27/2007 3:01:46 PM PDT by fgoodwin

Picture a world where your father walks with you down a starlit road, pausing to point out Orion. He recites Robert Frost, knows how a battery works—and all the rules about girls. "The Dangerous Book for Boys," by brothers Conn and Hal Iggulden, is peaking on Amazon's best-seller list (No. 5 last week) by recalling just that world. The compendium of trivia, history and advice is geared toward preteen boys, but it's found a surprising audience in men in their 30s and 40s, too. The book's marbled endpapers, archival illustrations and dry, humorous tone ("excitable bouts of windbreaking will not endear you to a girl") offers a portal back to a time of "Sunday afternoons and long summer days."

The anxiety might also be for our children. Robert Baden Powell, father of the Boy Scout movement, wrote "Scouting for Boys" in 1908, out of concern that the young soldiers he had fought with in the Boer War were physically and morally unfit. "At the height of the British Empire, the older generation worried about boys' becoming pasty and soft and useless," says Conn Iggulden. "I see similar concerns today."

But the Boy Scouts of America, with its exclusionary policies toward gays and atheists, and emphasis on safety over fun, may feel old-fashioned in a bad way: enrollment has declined steadily for a decade. "The Dangerous Book for Boys," on the other hand, suggests activities with a whiff of rebelliousness without advocating anything truly unsafe. It also gives parents a product, in today's commercial age, refreshingly free of brands or logos. Of course, they're still falling for one of the most enduring brands of all: nostalgia.

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TOPICS: Current Events; History; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: boyhood; boys; boyscouts; bsa; conniggulden; dads; dangerousbook; fathers; iggulden; liberalbias; mediabias; scouting; scouts
Typical liberal hatchet job, and note the gratuitous jab at BSA thrown-in at the end, for good measure.
1 posted on 06/27/2007 3:01:48 PM PDT by fgoodwin
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To: fgoodwin
Myth of Boyhood

Not a myth. I lived it. I have the scars to prove it. I also learned at a very young age how to replace (quickly) blown fuses from electrical experiments gone awry. I had a fairly elaborate chemistry set with stuff that could actually hurt you. I had a good 3 objective metal microscope. We had guns and knives and hatchets and tree saws. We collected bones and frog eggs and crawdads and rocks. Our mother dissected a big bull frog for us when I was 7. Our dad showed us how to pith frogs when I was 10. He showed us how to determine relative humidity using a psychometer. We made dustbombs. We built tree houses. We played with fire--a lot. We made gunpowder using a triple beam balance my brother borrowed for the summer from his 5th grade teacher. I found that saltpeter stings when flipped into the eyes. We made hot air balloons that rained fire down from the sky. We made smoke bombs and fireworks. We fished and hiked and caught snakes and built rafts and swam in forbidden lakes.
2 posted on 06/27/2007 3:12:01 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: fgoodwin
Of course, they're still falling for one of the most enduring brands of all: nostalgia.

And yet the author dares not ask if the boys of today will in the future look back with nostalgia at the wonderful, formative lessons gleaned from freak dancing, gangsta rap, and Nintendo Wii.

3 posted on 06/27/2007 3:17:02 PM PDT by Lil'freeper (You do not have the plug-in required to view this tagline.)
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We waded through drainage ditches to catch box turtles. We jammed the muzzles of our air rifles into the ground and then fired the dirt clods at each other. We took turns hurling the “Unspunetz Stone” as high in the air as we could. We played with sheep and got ticks the size of quarters in our hair that our mothers burned out with their cigarettes. We smoked “cigars” that were actually dead, rolled-up rhododenron leaves. We built mud forts from which we waged mudball fights with each other. We jumped off a small cliff into the dead leaves that piled up below. We ate tunafish sandwiches for lunch that had been sitting in a brown paper sack in the sun all morning. We didn’t know any better.


4 posted on 06/27/2007 3:19:08 PM PDT by Argus
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To: fgoodwin
What a bunch of stupid left-wing bull crap. People actually write this bilge?
5 posted on 06/27/2007 3:19:50 PM PDT by darkangel82 (Socialism is NOT an American value.)
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To: fgoodwin
Women civilize men, men civilize boys. Take men out of that equation and we have a problem. Nor is it only boys. Little girls sometimes want to learn to sew and cook as well as be astronauts. What a pity if they cannot learn those from their mothers.

The real problem here is the widespread fiction within the educational establishment (and elsewhere) that "gender roles" are some sort of inescapable trap to be avoided at all cost, and that those roles are always unrestrained violence for boys and mouselike docility for girls. Free men and women are living proof of the falsehood of the notion. Children who are never allowed to be free find it difficult to become free men and women. That, sadly and shockingly, seems to be by design.

6 posted on 06/27/2007 3:46:43 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Argus

Ahhh, great memories. What’s an “Unspunetz Stone”?


7 posted on 06/27/2007 5:37:11 PM PDT by aruanan
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I have no idea if that’s how it was spelled. It was an old commercial for Ovaltine in which beefy Norwegians or Swedes were depicted in what the commercial called their “national sport”, tossing this big boulder. Whoever tossed it the farthest was the winner. The implication was that drinking Ovaltine made them strong. The commercial was on all the time and my 10-year-old friends and I decided to give boulder-tossing a try. I ended up with a goose egg on my forehead that stuck out half a foot after one of the flying rocks hit me in the head.


8 posted on 06/27/2007 5:42:28 PM PDT by Argus
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I never was a boy but I did most of those things too. I think I had an idyllic childhood. I raised my boys the same way. I remember some of my friends freaking out because I let them start fires but I had already taught them about safety. My husband taught them many more things than I ever imagined, I really don’t know how he made it out of childhood alive.


9 posted on 06/27/2007 5:52:04 PM PDT by tiki
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To: Argus
It was an old commercial for Ovaltine in which beefy Norwegians or Swedes were depicted in what the commercial called their “national sport”, tossing this big boulder.

Was this before or after the era during which Mattel sold rifles and pistols that you could load with two-part plastic bullets, stick an adhesive cap on the shell end, and then actually "fire" the bullet out of the gun at friends while playing cowboys and Indians?
10 posted on 06/27/2007 5:55:29 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: tiki
I really don’t know how he made it out of childhood alive.

Ha ha ha. My dad used to say he'd be surprised if I made it alive to age 16.
11 posted on 06/27/2007 5:59:10 PM PDT by aruanan
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“...[Scouting] may feel old-fashioned in a bad way: enrollment has declined steadily for a decade.”

Well, when your “Daddy” is a Turkey Baster, One Night Stand,
Petri Dish, or Third Worlder on the other side of the globe and you’re being raised by Two Mommies, it’s a little hard to get him to take you to the meetings and the camp outs!

Thanks once AGAIN, NOW Hags for making Fathers obsolete in our society, you bitter old lesbian crones. Your handiwork has had far-reaching, disastrous consequences for Society as a whole, Beotches.

I love my Dad. I’m going to go call him and remind him just how IMPORTANT he is to me. :)


12 posted on 06/27/2007 6:07:54 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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I had dirt clod fights with my best friends...Froggy and John. Took one right square in the eye once....

Heck, JohnnyO and me once had a "full-on" firefight with bottle rockets, firecracker, and M-80's down in Ensenada, Mexico.

We built underground forts...with trap doors.

We rode our bikes off the roof of my garage. We jumped off the fences and the top of the slide...into our pool.

We walked the whole perimeter of our lot's on top of the cinder block fences.

We climbed to the very tip-top of trees.

We were at home on the roofs of our homes.

We threw firecrackers and hotdog pieces up in the air to flying bats....

We had jousting matches on our stingray bikes...with long poles. We got beat to heck and back...and loved every minute of it.

We played baseball until late,late in the street...under the street lights.

We played hide-in-seek...at night until our parents called us home.

I noodled catfish with my grandpa, sticking my hand into crazy places!!

I stayed 3 nights out on the sand bars of the Arkansas River...with three other kids. Grandpa came and got us later....I was maybe 9. We fished, explored, ran, slept, fought, jerked around, had burping and farting contests....ate all the stuff we brought..and then what we caught.

Caught frogs, snakes, turtles, lightening bugs, praying mantis's...butterflys you name it.

It's no myth

13 posted on 06/27/2007 6:19:51 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Politics is war without bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed. - Mao Tse-Tung)
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To: aruanan
Nicely reminiscent of Dylan Thomas' Fern Hill.

Thanks.

14 posted on 06/27/2007 8:00:37 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: fgoodwin
("excitable bouts of windbreaking will not endear you to a girl")

When did this rule get made?

15 posted on 06/28/2007 6:50:27 AM PDT by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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To: aruanan
Sounds like a healthy childhood.... a lot like my own. It'll get you put on the terrorist watch list nowadays.

The modern world sucks.

16 posted on 06/28/2007 9:13:22 AM PDT by Rytwyng (open borders = open treason)
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The modern world sucks.

The post-modern world sucks.
17 posted on 06/28/2007 9:20:12 AM PDT by aruanan
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"But the Boy Scouts of America, with its exclusionary policies toward gays and atheists, and emphasis on safety over fun, may feel old-fashioned in a bad way

I hear they also exclude girls...maybe you should file a class-action against the BSA.

18 posted on 06/28/2007 9:22:20 AM PDT by Sam's Army
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Mattel sold rifles and pistols that you could load with two-part plastic bullets...

Yeah, I had one of those LOL. It was the same era. What I like to think of as The Golden Age.

19 posted on 06/28/2007 9:24:49 AM PDT by Argus
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To: CzarNicky

I’m afraid my wife can vouch for that one!


20 posted on 06/28/2007 1:59:04 PM PDT by fgoodwin (Fundamentalist, right-wing nut and proud father of a Star Scout!)
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