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Summorum Pontificum: my intro comments and the text (Fr. John Zuhlsdorf)
WDTPRS ^ | 7 July 2007 | Fr. John Zuhlsdorf

Posted on 07/07/2007 3:12:45 AM PDT by nickcarraway

Summorum Pontificum: my intro comments and the text

CATEGORY: SESSIUNCULUM — Fr. John Zuhlsdorf @ 5:00 am Thanks to be to Pope Benedict, who has given back to the Church and the world a great gift.

As one friend put it, the world has been made just a little bit safer to live in.

This document is about opening hearts and healing. In his explanatory letter Pope Benedict even quotes 2 Cor 6:13: “Widen your hearts!”

Read Summorum Pontificum with a wide heart, and no one need fear that rights will be trampled or due authority undermined.

The Motu Proprio goes into effect on 14 September. We have time to chew and digest, collect things and make arrangements. We must not jump the gun.

But we can make a start.

What this Motu Proprio does

Effectively it levels the playing field for people who want to use the older liturgical forms.

Remember: the MP applies to all the sacraments as they were before the Council, not just Holy Mass. It concerns the liturgy, not just Holy Mass. Thus clerics (bishops, priests, deacons), who are obliged to recite the Liturgy of the Hours can use the older Breviarium Romanum as it was in 1962. Benedict is establishing the older form of liturgy, as in was in 1962, as an extraordinary form (forma extraordinaria). The Novus Ordo of the Roman Missal and all other liturgical books remain the ordinary way of celebrating the liturgy.

“Extraordinary”, here, does NOT mean “rare” or “unusual” or “special”. It simply means “out of the common order”. If we turn to how the Church uses Latin in, for example, a pretty good Latinist, St. Jerome, the adverb extraordinarie means “with excessive frequency” (cf. On Ephesians 1 ad. 2, 13). It cannot be argued legitimately from the word “extraordinary” that use of the older forms must necessarily be “rare”. It can be quite regular, depending on the circumstances, while in the larger scheme of things the Novus Ordo remains now the usual way things are done.

The Motu Proprio responds to THREE GROUPS of people:

1) Followers of the SSPX, for whom this form of Mass is a “mark of identity”, even though there are also deeper theological reasons for that break.

2) There are many lay people who also remember the older form of Mass from before the changes. And you don’t have to be to 80 to remember those days. There are people in the 40’s and 50’s who remember living with the old Mass. They have always remained attached to the old Mass or have regained a longing for it.

3) There are those who were neither in a separated group nor remember the pre-Conciliar Mass. These are younger people who have discovered the older form.

As a result, it is unacceptable to suggest that these provisions were made merely to accomodate a bunch of nostalgic old foggies who can’t get with the program. The provisions were made with anyone in mind who wants older forms, for any decent reason. People who want to avail of this extraordinary use are not second rate citizens.

They may not be treated any longer like the nutty aunt in the attic.

There are a few things to dispell.

First, in the explanatory letter the Pope invites bishops, “I invite you, dear Brothers, to send to the Holy See an account of your experiences, three years after this Motu Proprio has taken effect. If truly serious difficulties come to light, ways to remedy them can be sought.” This does NOT impose an expiration date. What it does is ask for information about what is going on. If, in light of experience, the provisions need to be changed, they can be changed based on experience. However, I hasten to point out to the whiners who will say this weakens the Motu Proprio, that this invitation is NOT in the Motu Proprio itself. I will remind those who see the glass always as half empty that if the experiences are POSITIVE, the provisions could be adjusted positively. So, in a way, it is up to you. Open hearts. Work together. Save the Liturgy – Save the World, as we say around this blog.

Second, the bishops retain authority in their dioceses. Can it be any other way? This is entirely normal, good and proper. However, the Pope has with this Motu Proprio made many things that were once rather vague far more concrete and clear. Remember, bishops can be allies. You must approach them properly, which is only common sense. It may be that Fr. Guido O’Brien at St. Ipsydipsy doesn’t want to or in incapable of celebrating Mass in the old way. In that case, the bishop could be helpful in resolving the dilemma.

Third, private Masses/liturgies in the old form can’t be celebrated in private in the Triduum. That is normal and reasonable. that is the way it is in the Novus Ordo. In places where the older form is established in a parish for the older use, the Triduum CAN be celebrated with the older books. However, in parishes where the newer forms are the usual fare, and there is a regularly scheduled Mass with the older form, when the Triduum arrives, the older, extraordinary liturgy must give way to the ordinary. That is logical. In the Novus Ordo, as in the older days, there cannot be two Masses of the Last Supper on Holy Thursday, two Good Friday liturgies, or two Vigils. So, in this case, the ordinary takes precedence.

Fourth, the issue the Triduum and this reasonable restriction has nothing to do with the prayer about the Jews on Good Friday. This is simply a matter of what the Church’s logical practice is based on the sacred nature of those Triduum liturgies. The Jews were not part of the equation. Remember also that the 1962 Missale Romanum is used for the Triduum in those places where it will be permitted to use the older form at that time. The 1962 edition and not some earlier edition before the changes to those Good Friday petitions.

Fifth, as stated above, the 1962 Missale, the Missal of Bl. John XXIII is to be used, and NOT some earlier edition. Priests who are not adhering to the 1962 rubrics should be now ready and willing to adjust what they are doing. Lay people must be ready and willing to adjust their expectations.

Remarkably, on the Vatican website only the LEGAL section (second part) of the Motu Proprio is rendered into ENGLISH.

Here it is:

Attenzione: è stata tradotta solo la parte dispositiva del Motu proprio Summorum Pontificum (…….) ... Our predecessor John Paul II having already considered the insistent petitions of these faithful, having listened to the views of the Cardinal Fathers of the Consistory of 22 March 2006, having reflected deeply upon all aspects of the question, invoked the Holy Spirit and trusting in the help of God, with these Apostolic Letters We establish the following: Art. 1 The Roman Missal promulgated by Paul VI is the ordinary expression of the Lex orandi (Law of prayer) of the Catholic Church of the Latin rite. Nonetheless, the Roman Missal promulgated by St. Pius V and reissued by Bl. John XXIII is to be considered as an extraordinary expression of that same Lex orandi, and must be given due honour for its venerable and ancient usage. These two expressions of the Church’s Lex orandi will in no any way lead to a division in the Church’s Lex credendi (Law of belief). They are, in fact two usages of the one Roman rite. It is, therefore, permissible to celebrate the Sacrifice of the Mass following the typical edition of the Roman Missal promulgated by Bl. John XXIII in 1962 and never abrogated, as an extraordinary form of the Liturgy of the Church. The conditions for the use of this Missal as laid down by earlier documents Quattuor abhinc annis and Ecclesia Dei, are substituted as follows: Art. 2 In Masses celebrated without the people, each Catholic priest of the Latin rite, whether secular or regular, may use the Roman Missal published by Bl. Pope John XXIII in 1962, or the Roman Missal promulgated by Pope Paul VI in 1970, and may do so on any day with the exception of the Easter Triduum. For such celebrations, with either one Missal or the other, the priest has no need for permission from the Apostolic See or from his Ordinary. Art. 3 Communities of Institutes of consecrated life and of Societies of apostolic life, of either pontifical or diocesan right, wishing to celebrate Mass in accordance with the edition of the Roman Missal promulgated in 1962, for conventual or “community” celebration in their oratories, may do so. If an individual community or an entire Institute or Society wishes to undertake such celebrations often, habitually or permanently, the decision must be taken by the Superiors Major, in accordance with the law and following their own specific decrees and statues. Art. 4 Celebrations of Mass as mentioned above in art. 2 may – observing all the norms of law – also be attended by faithful who, of their own free will, ask to be admitted. Art. 5 § 1 In parishes, where there is a stable group of faithful who adhere to the earlier liturgical tradition, the pastor should willingly accept their requests to celebrate the Mass according to the rite of the Roman Missal published in 1962, and ensure that the welfare of these faithful harmonises with the ordinary pastoral care of the parish, under the guidance of the bishop in accordance with canon 392, avoiding discord and favouring the unity of the whole Church. § 2 Celebration in accordance with the Missal of Bl. John XXIII may take place on working days; while on Sundays and feast days one such celebration may also be held. § 3 For faithful and priests who request it, the pastor should also allow celebrations in this extraordinary form for special circumstances such as marriages, funerals or occasional celebrations, e.g. pilgrimages. § 4 Priests who use the Missal of Bl. John XXIII must be qualified to do so and not juridically impeded. § 5 In churches that are not parish or conventual churches, it is the duty of the Rector of the church to grant the above permission. Art. 6 In Masses celebrated in the presence of the people in accordance with the Missal of Bl. John XXIII, the readings may be given in the vernacular, using editions recognised by the Apostolic See. Art. 7 If a group of lay faithful, as mentioned in art. 5 § 1, has not obtained satisfaction to their requests from the pastor, they should inform the diocesan bishop. The bishop is strongly requested to satisfy their wishes. If he cannot arrange for such celebration to take place, the matter should be referred to the Pontifical Commission “Ecclesia Dei”. Art. 8 A bishop who, desirous of satisfying such requests, but who for various reasons is unable to do so, may refer the problem to the Commission “Ecclesia Dei” to obtain counsel and assistance. Art. 9 § 1 The pastor, having attentively examined all aspects, may also grant permission to use the earlier ritual for the administration of the Sacraments of Baptism, Marriage, Penance, and the Anointing of the Sick, if the good of souls would seem to require it. § 2 Ordinaries are given the right to celebrate the Sacrament of Confirmation using the earlier Roman Pontifical, if the good of souls would seem to require it. § 2 Clerics ordained “in sacris constitutis” may use the Roman Breviary promulgated by Bl. John XXIII in 1962. Art. 10 The ordinary of a particular place, if he feels it appropriate, may erect a personal parish in accordance with can. 518 for celebrations following the ancient form of the Roman rite, or appoint a chaplain, while observing all the norms of law. Art. 11 The Pontifical Commission “Ecclesia Dei”, erected by John Paul II in 1988, continues to exercise its function. Said Commission will have the form, duties and norms that the Roman Pontiff wishes to assign it. Art. 12 This Commission, apart from the powers it enjoys, will exercise the authority of the Holy See, supervising the observance and application of these dispositions. We order that everything We have established with these Apostolic Letters issued as Motu Proprio be considered as “established and decreed”, and to be observed from 14 September of this year, Feast of the Exaltation of the Cross, whatever there may be to the contrary. From Rome, at St. Peter’s, 7 July 2007, third year of Our Pontificate.

There are a few difficulties in the English translation, as I compare it to the Latin. The English in a few cases softens what the Latin says. I will be digging into them in other entries.


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1 posted on 07/07/2007 3:12:49 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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2 posted on 07/07/2007 3:16:34 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
the typical edition of the Roman Missal promulgated by Bl. John XXIII in 1962 and never abrogated [emphasis supplied]

How satisfying to read these words.
3 posted on 07/07/2007 3:16:59 AM PDT by Mike Fieschko
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To: nickcarraway
The English in a few cases softens what the Latin says.

A common problem with the English translators at the Vatican...it will be interesting to see Fr. Z's analysis of this!

4 posted on 07/07/2007 3:30:58 AM PDT by livius
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To: nickcarraway
For those of us not so familiar with the current controversy, is the 1962 Mass the new order Mass in Latin, or is it the Tridentine Mass, where the priest says 'Ite missa est', and the Mass goes on for another 15 minutes, or so?
5 posted on 07/07/2007 3:36:18 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (A person who does not want the best for America)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
For those of us not so familiar with the current controversy, is the 1962 Mass the new order Mass in Latin, or is it the Tridentine Mass, where the priest says 'Ite missa est', and the Mass goes on for another 15 minutes, or so?

I wouldn't describe the Tridentine as you do, but the Missal of 1962, or of Bl John XXIII, is not the new (1970 Missal) in Latin. It's how Mass was said in 1962.
6 posted on 07/07/2007 3:40:42 AM PDT by Mike Fieschko
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To: nickcarraway

Thanks to be to Pope Benedict, who has given back to the Church and the world a great gift.

 

A great gift indeed!!

Thank you Pope Bendict XVI, and Father John Zuhlsdorf too.

7 posted on 07/07/2007 3:42:12 AM PDT by roamer
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To: nickcarraway
following their own specific decrees and statues.

I think he/they meant "statutes."

8 posted on 07/07/2007 4:02:13 AM PDT by ELS (Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

It didn’t usually go on that long (not where I lived, at least!). However, there were some prayers after Mass that were said in the Tridentine Rite, and of course there was the “Last Gospel.” Some of the prayers may have been optional anyway, but I think others were eliminated in the 1962 Missal, which was issued for the Tridentine Rite and not the Novus Ordo (which had not even been created by 1962), but made a few basically cosmetic changes.

Maybe some priest here who remembers the old practice could give us some help?


9 posted on 07/07/2007 4:04:20 AM PDT by livius
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To: ELS
I found this in the translation of the letter:

This glance at the past imposes an obligation on us today: to make every effort to unable for all those who truly desire unity to remain in that unity or to attain it anew.

Maybe a spell checker gone berserk? Actually, I think the translator probably made some last minute changes and got careless. I suspect that the above English may have read, "make it possible for," and the translator wanted to change it to "enable," forgot to remove the "for" and somehow plugged in "unable" instead of enable.

And as for "statues," maybe there was a mispelling and the spell-check suggested "statues" instead of "statutes" and the weary translator accepted it. I've done both of the above myself. Of course, my translations don't get officially released by the Vatican...

10 posted on 07/07/2007 4:10:47 AM PDT by livius
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To: roamer

Did you see the celebratory video that Fr. Z just posted on his blog? Along with the bottle of champagne, of course.


11 posted on 07/07/2007 4:20:52 AM PDT by livius
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To: livius; SevenofNine
ROFL

http://wdtprs.com/blog/2007/07/the-hermeneutic-of-continuity-celebrates-with-video/

12 posted on 07/07/2007 4:25:27 AM PDT by monkapotamus
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To: livius
Did you see the celebratory video that Fr. Z just posted on his blog?

LOL! I thought he said no gloating. There are some great photos of BXVI.

13 posted on 07/07/2007 4:26:22 AM PDT by ELS (Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
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To: ELS; monkapotamus

They’re wonderful pix of BXVI! I loved the “soundtrack,” too!


14 posted on 07/07/2007 4:29:12 AM PDT by livius
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To: livius

15 posted on 07/07/2007 4:30:14 AM PDT by monkapotamus
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16 posted on 07/07/2007 4:30:56 AM PDT by monkapotamus
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To: livius

Did you see the celebratory video that Fr. Z just posted on his blog? Along with the bottle of champagne, of course.

What I did see was “Chillin’ the Veuve”. Looks like the one in white has already started. *s*

For some reason I can no longer get to his blog so I try to check his “feed” page http://wdtprs.com/blog/feed/

But I sure do miss the comments...


17 posted on 07/07/2007 4:31:21 AM PDT by roamer
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To: livius
Do you think that they will say the prayer to St. Michael?

Pope John Paul II asked that we say this prayer -- but I have never once heard a priest say that -- I've read it on the internet.

04/24/1994, Regina Coeli
http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/john_paul_ii/angelus/1994/documents/hf_jp-ii_reg_19940424_it.html

[...] 4. May prayer strengthen us for the spiritual battle we are told about in the Letter to the Ephesians: 'Draw strength from the Lord and from His mighty power' (Ephesians 6:10).  The Book of Revelation refers to this same battle, recalling before our eyes the image of St. Michael the Archangel (Revelation 12:7).  Pope Leo XIII certainly had a very vivid recollection of this scene when, at the end of the last century, he introduced a special prayer to St. Michael throughout the Church.  "Saint Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle, be our protection...".

Although this prayer is no longer recited at the end of Mass, I ask everyone not to forget it and to recite it to obtain help in the battle against forces of darkness and against the spirit of this world. [...]
(translated by google)

Saint Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle, be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil; may God rebuke him, we humbly pray; and do thou, O Prince of the heavenly host, by the power of God, thrust into hell Satan and all evil spirits who wander through the world for the ruin of souls. Amen.
(copied from The Raccolta)

18 posted on 07/07/2007 4:35:32 AM PDT by roamer
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To: roamer

I liked the prayer to St. Michael. It would be nice if it comes back, even if it’s not mandatory.


19 posted on 07/07/2007 4:42:55 AM PDT by livius
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Bump!


20 posted on 07/07/2007 5:08:58 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: nickcarraway; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; Romulus; ...

Good, detailed analysis of the Motu Proprio.


21 posted on 07/07/2007 5:55:52 AM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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APOSTOLIC LETTER
SUMMORUM PONTIFICUM
OF THE SUPREME PONTIFF
BENEDICT XVI
GIVEN MOTU PROPRIO
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It has always been the care of the Supreme Pontiffs until the present time, that the Church of Christ offer worthy worship to the Divine Majesty for the praise and glory of his name and for the good of all his Holy Church.

As from time immemorial so in the future the principle shall be respected according to which each particular Church must be in accord with the universal Church not only regarding the doctrine of the faith and sacramental signs, but also as to the usages universally handed down by apostolic and unbroken tradition. These are to be maintained not only so that errors may be avoided, but also so that the faith may be passed on in its integrity, since the Church’s rule of prayer (lex orandi) corresponds to her rule of belief (lex credendi).

Among Pontiffs who have displayed such care there excels the name of Saint Gregory the Great, who saw to the transmission to the new peoples of Europe both of the Catholic faith and of the treasures of worship and culture accumulated by the Romans in preceding centuries. He gave instructions for the form of the Sacred Liturgy of both the Sacrifice of the Mass and of the Divine Office as was celebrated in the City. He made the greatest efforts to foster monks and nuns, who progressing under the Rule of St Benedict, in every place along with the proclamation of the Gospel by their life likewise exemplified that most salutary expression of the Rule let nothing be given precedence over the work of God (chapter 43). In this way the sacred liturgy according to the Roman manner made fertile not only the faith and piety but also the culture of many peoples. Moreover it is evident that the Latin Liturgy in its various forms has stimulated in the spiritual life very many Saints in every century of the Christian age and strengthened in the virtue of religion so many peoples and made fertile their piety.

However, in order that the Sacred Liturgy might more efficaciously absolve its task, several others among the Roman Pontiffs in the course of the centuries have brought to bear particular concern, among whom Saint Pius V is eminent, who with great pastoral zeal, at the exhortation of the Council of Trent, renewed the worship of the whole Church, ensuring the publishing of liturgical books amended and restored according to the norm of the Fathers and put them into use in the Latin Church. It is clear that among the liturgical books of the Roman Rite the Roman Missal is eminent. It grew in the city of Rome and gradually down through the centuries took on forms which are very similar to those in vigor in recent generations.

It was this same goal that as time passed the Roman Pontiffs pursued, adapting or establishing liturgical rites and books to new ages and then at the start of the present century undertaking a more ample restoration. It was in this manner that our Predecessors Clement VIII, Urban VIII, St Pius X, Benedict XV, Pius XII and the Blessed John XXIII acted.

In more recent time, however, the Second Vatican Council expressed the desire that with due respect and reverence for divine worship it be restored and adapted to the needs of our age. Prompted by this desire, our Predecessor the Supreme Pontiff Paul VI in 1970 approved for the Latin Church liturgical books restored and partly renewed, and that throughout the world translated into many vernacular languages, have been welcomed by the Bishops and by the priests and faithful. John Paul II revised the third typical edition of the Roman Missal.

Thus the Roman Pontiffs have acted so that this liturgical edifice, so to speak, might once again appear splendid in its dignity and harmony. However in some regions not a small number of the faithful have been and remain attached with such great love and affection to the previous liturgical forms, which had profoundly imbued their culture and spirit, that the Supreme Pontiff John Paul II, prompted by pastoral concern for these faithful, in 1984 by means of a special Indult Quattuor abhinc annos, drawn up by the Congregation for Divine Worship, granted the faculty to use the Roman Missal published by John XXIII in 1962; while in 1988 John Paul II once again, by means of the Motu Proprio Ecclesia Dei, exhorted the Bishops to make wide and generous use of this faculty in favor of all the faithful requesting it.

Having pondered at length the pressing requests of these faithful to our Predecessor John Paul II, having also heard the Fathers of the Consistory of Cardinals held on 23 March 2006, having pondered all things, invoked the Holy Spirit and placed our confidence in the help of God, by this present Apostolic Letter we DECREE the following.

Art. 1. The Roman Missal promulgated by Paul VI is to be regarded as the ordinary expression of the law of prayer (lex orandi) of the Catholic Church of Latin Rite, while the Roman Missal promulgated by St Pius V and published again by Blessed John XXIII as the extraordinary expression of the law of prayer (lex orandi) and on account of its venerable and ancient use let it enjoy due honor. These two expressions of the law of prayer (lex orandi) of the Church in no way lead to a division in the law of prayer (lex orandi) of the Church, for they are two uses of the one Roman Rite.

Hence it is licit to celebrate the Sacrifice of the Mass in accordance with the typical edition of the Roman Missal promulgated by Blessed John XXIII in 1962 and never abrogated, as the extraordinary form of the Liturgy of the Church. The conditions laid down by the previous documents Quattuor abhinc annos and Ecclesia Dei for the use of this Missal are replaced by what follows:

Art. 2. In Masses celebrated without the people, any priest of Latin rite, whether secular or religious, can use the Roman Missal published by Pope Blessed John XXIII in 1962 or the Roman Missal promulgated by the Supreme Pontiff Paul VI in 1970, on any day except in the Sacred Triduum. For celebration in accordance with one or the other Missal, a priest does not require any permission, neither from the Apostolic See nor his own Ordinary.

Art. 3. If Communities or Institutes of Consecrated Life or Societies of Apostolic Life of either pontifical or diocesan rite desire to have a celebration of Holy Mass in accordance with the edition of the Roman Missal promulgated in 1962 in the conventual or community celebration in their own oratories, this is allowed. If an individual community or the entire Institute or Society wants to have such celebrations often or habitually or permanently, the matter is to be decided by the Major Superiors according to the norm of law and the particular laws and statutes.

Art. 4. With due observance of law, even Christ’s faithful who spontaneously request it, may be admitted to celebrations of Holy Mass mentioned in art. 2 above.

Art. 5, § 1. In parishes where a group of faithful attached to the previous liturgical tradition exists stably, let the pastor willingly accede to their requests for the celebration of the Holy Mass according to the rite of the Roman Missal published in 1962. Let him see to it that the good of these faithful be harmoniously reconciled with ordinary pastoral care of the parish, under the governance of the Bishop according to canon 392, avoiding discord and fostering the unity of the whole Church.

§ 2. Celebration according to the Missal of Blessed John XXIII can take place on weekdays, while on Sundays and on feast days there may be one such celebration.

§ 3. Let the pastor permit celebrations in this extraordinary form for faithful or priests who request it, even in particular circumstances such as weddings, funerals or occasional celebrations, for example pilgrimages.

§ 4. Priests using the Missal of Blessed John XXIII must be worthy and not impeded by law.

§ 5. In churches, which are neither parochial nor conventual, it is the Rector of the church who grants the above-mentioned permission.

Art. 6. In Masses celebrated with the people according to the Missal of Blessed John XXIII, the Readings can be proclaimed even in the vernacular, using editions that have received the recognitio of the Apostolic See.

Art. 7. Where some group of lay faithful, mentioned in art. 5§1 does not obtain what it requests from the pastor, it should inform the diocesan Bishop of the fact. The Bishop is earnestly requested to grant their desire. If he cannot provide for this kind of celebration, let the matter be referred to the Pontifical Commission Ecclesia Dei.

Art. 8. A Bishop who desires to make provision for requests of lay faithful of this kind, but is for various reasons prevented from doing so, may refer the matter to the Pontifical Commission Ecclesia Dei, which should give him advice and help.

Art. 9, § 1. Likewise a pastor may, all things duly considered, grant permission to use the older ritual in administering the Sacraments of Baptism, Matrimony, Penance and the Anointing of the Sick, as the good of souls may suggest.

§ 2. Ordinaries are granted the faculty to celebrate the sacrament of Confirmation using the former Roman Pontifical, as the good of souls may suggest.

§ 3. It is lawful for clerics in holy orders to use even the Roman Breviary promulgated by Blessed John XXIII in 1962.

Art 10. It is lawful for the local Ordinary, if he judges it opportune, to erect a personal parish according to the norm of canon 518 for celebrations according to the older form of the Roman rite or appoint a rector or chaplain, with due observance of the requirements of law.

Art. 11. The Pontifical Commission Ecclesia Dei, erected in 1988 by John Paul II,5 continues to carry out its function. This Commission is to have the form, duties and norm for action that the Roman Pontiff may wish to assign to it.

Art. 12. The same Commission, in addition to the faculties it already enjoys, will exercise the authority of the Holy See by maintaining vigilance over the observance and application of these dispositions.

Whatever is decreed by Us by means of this Motu Proprio, we order to be firm and ratified and to be observed as of 14 September this year, the feast of the Exaltation of the Holy Cross, all things to the contrary notwithstanding.

Given at Rome, at St Peter’s, on 7 July in the Year of Our Lord 2007, the Third of Our Pontificate.
BENEDICT XVI

22 posted on 07/07/2007 6:32:24 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: nickcarraway

Deo gratias!


23 posted on 07/07/2007 6:51:34 AM PDT by Thorin ("I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: livius

The Prayers after Low Mass were omitted from the 1962 missal.


24 posted on 07/07/2007 7:35:29 AM PDT by pgkdan (Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: sandyeggo

Happy day.


27 posted on 07/07/2007 7:47:05 AM PDT by LordBridey
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To: pgkdan; Lucius Cornelius Sulla

Thanks for the info!


28 posted on 07/07/2007 7:49:28 AM PDT by livius
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To: monkapotamus

“Sit on it, Mahony”. that was outstanding - thanks for the link


29 posted on 07/07/2007 7:49:47 AM PDT by Nihil Obstat (Kyrie Eleison)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

The new Mass in Latin is actually supposed to be allowed at any time, without permission. (except that some bishops have actually forbidden it)


30 posted on 07/07/2007 7:51:15 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Pyro7480; monkapotamus; ELS; Theophane; indult; St. Johann Tetzel; B Knotts; livius; k omalley; ...

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31 posted on 07/07/2007 7:58:01 AM PDT by Frank Sheed (Fr. V. R. Capodanno, Lt, USN, Catholic Chaplain. 3rd/5th, 1st Marine Div., FMF. MOH, posthumously.)
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To: Frank Sheed
The SSPX has wasted no time in Boston...
32 posted on 07/07/2007 8:14:56 AM PDT by CatQuilt (Free the TLM!)
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34 posted on 07/07/2007 8:30:54 AM PDT by Deo volente
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To: monkapotamus

This is getting emailed to my parish council!


35 posted on 07/07/2007 8:31:48 AM PDT by mockingbyrd (peace begins in the womb)
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To: Frank Sheed

This is how my parish will be celebrating tomorrow, Frank.

http://www.materecclesiae.org/upcoming.php


36 posted on 07/07/2007 8:39:08 AM PDT by jrny
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To: nickcarraway

Great find, Nick. Thanks.


37 posted on 07/07/2007 8:55:06 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: nickcarraway
However, in parishes where the newer forms are the usual fare, and there is a regularly scheduled Mass with the older form, when the Triduum arrives, the older, extraordinary liturgy must give way to the ordinary. That is logical. In the Novus Ordo, as in the older days, there cannot be two Masses of the Last Supper on Holy Thursday, two Good Friday liturgies, or two Vigils. So, in this case, the ordinary takes precedence.

Not so...at our parish, the Tridentine liturgies do NOT give way to N.O. liturgies. We co-exist. During the Triuduum, each group had their own Last Supper liturgy, Good Friday liturgy, and Easter Vigil. To deprive either group of the Triduum is never the intent of the Holy Father and he never stated so. Father Z simply assumed incorrectly. We have peace at our parish where this can and should be done.

38 posted on 07/07/2007 9:17:16 AM PDT by m4629
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To: livius

That video is too funny.

I e-mailed the MP to my parish. That will add fuel to an already ragin fire!


39 posted on 07/07/2007 9:32:51 AM PDT by Jaded ("I have a mustard- seed; and I am not afraid to use it."- Joseph Ratzinger)
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To: nickcarraway; ArrogantBustard

I guess with all this, I’ll be moving back to Maryland, metaphorically speaking. I enjoyed my stay in Missouri.


40 posted on 07/07/2007 9:36:18 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Nihil Obstat

There’s probably a great deal of wailing and gnashing of teeth going on right now over at Cardinal Mahony’s chancery office!


41 posted on 07/07/2007 10:43:28 AM PDT by Deo volente
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To: Jaded

Probably...is your parish very liberal? Mine is half and half - one very conservative priest (the younger one) who wears a cassock, already celebrates his NO ad orientam, and will be learning the TLM soon, and one raving 1980’s style luv-bug (the pastor, unfortunately) who wears a torn tee-shirt and cut offs and a scraggly little, now-graying beard. And you can judge a book by its cover, in this case!


42 posted on 07/07/2007 10:55:31 AM PDT by livius
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To: sitetest; ArrogantBustard

We have "shown you." Kindly cease and desist. ;-o)


43 posted on 07/07/2007 11:10:33 AM PDT by Frank Sheed (Fr. V. R. Capodanno, Lt, USN, Catholic Chaplain. 3rd/5th, 1st Marine Div., FMF. MOH, posthumously.)
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To: jrny

Mr. sneakers and I wish we could join you at your parish! Sounds lovely! I’m jealous!!!


44 posted on 07/07/2007 11:13:02 AM PDT by sneakers
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To: Deo volente
There’s probably a great deal of wailing and gnashing of teeth going on right now over at Cardinal Mahony’s chancery office!

GOOD! I cant wait to hear the spin by Mahony, Aldemac(spelling?) and TrautMAN. I am sure they are pulling their hair out right now.

45 posted on 07/07/2007 11:26:16 AM PDT by JustMytwocents70
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To: Frank Sheed; ArrogantBustard
Dear Frank Sheed,

“We have ‘shown you.’ Kindly cease and desist.”

What’s this “we” stuff?? “We” who?? You and Pope Benedict??

LOL!!

Seriously, I hope that this works out well for everyone attached to the old use of the Roman rite.

;-)


sitetest

46 posted on 07/07/2007 11:45:07 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: livius

Well, the church monster et al just ran off another Conservative priest. The Administrator/Priest is an enabler for the clique. So lets all hold hands....


47 posted on 07/07/2007 12:03:07 PM PDT by Jaded ("I have a mustard- seed; and I am not afraid to use it."- Joseph Ratzinger)
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To: livius
I loved the “soundtrack,” too!

The soundtrack is a big part of what made it so funny.

48 posted on 07/07/2007 1:11:22 PM PDT by ELS (Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
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To: nickcarraway

felicissimus bumpus ad summum (esp. about Art. 9)


49 posted on 07/07/2007 1:15:43 PM PDT by Dajjal
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To: pgkdan; livius; jrny; Lucius Cornelius Sulla
The Prayers after Low Mass were omitted from the 1962 missal.

I believe they are optional in the 1962 Missal.

However, FWIW, at all the low Masses I have attended the priest has said the prayers after the last Gospel, which include the prayer to St. Michael.

50 posted on 07/07/2007 1:17:24 PM PDT by ELS (Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
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