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A Brief Catechism for Adults - Lesson 2: The Bible and Tradition
OLRL ^ | Fr. William J. Cogan

Posted on 07/17/2007 3:49:34 PM PDT by NYer

"God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spoke in times past to the fathers by the prophets, last of all in these days hath spoken to us by His Son, whom He hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also He made the world."  (Hebrews 1:1)

  1. What is the Bible?
        A collection of writings which were inspired by God.
    "All scripture, inspired of God, is profitable to teach, to reprove, to correct, to instruct in justice, that the man of God may be perfect, furnished to every good work."    (2 Timothy 3:16-17)

  2. What does "inspired by God" mean?
        It means that God chose some men and moved them to write down faithfully all the things, and only those things, which He wanted written down.
    "For prophecy came not by the will of man at any time: but the holy men of God spoke, inspired by the Holy Ghost."  (2 Peter 1:21)

  3. Who, then, is the main author of the Bible?
        God is, since He moved these men to write down the things He ordered, although He allowed them to write in their own language and style.
    "For I give you to understand, brethren, that the gospel which was preached by me is not according to man.  For neither did I receive it of man, nor did I learn it;' but by the revelation of Jesus Christ."   (Galatians 1:11-12)

  4. How many writings, or books, are there in the Bible?
        There are 72.

  5. When were all these writings put together?
        The Catholic Church put all of them into one book between the years 350 and 405. 

  6. How is the Bible divided?
        It is divided into two main parts, the Old Testament and the New Testament.
    The Old Testament contains the things God told the human race from the beginning of the world up to the coming of His son, Jesus Christ. The New Testament contains what God has told us through His Son and through His Apostles and others.

  7. Is it possible to misunderstand the Bible?


        Yes, even the Bible itself says so.

    "As also in all his [St. Paul's] epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are certain things hard to be understood, which the unlearned and unstable wrest [twist], as they do also the other scriptures, to their own destruction."    (2 Peter 3:16)

  8. How can you get the true meaning of the Bible?


        You can get it only from God's official interpreter, the Catholic Church.

    "Understanding this first, that no prophecy of scripture is made by private interpretation."    (2 Peter 1:20)

  9. Is everything that God taught in the Bible?
        No, the rest is in tradition.
    "Many other signs also did Jesus in the sight of His disciples, which are not written in this book."  (John 20:30)

  10. What is Tradition?
        The Unwritten Word of God; these "other things Jesus did" were handed down by word of mouth by the Apostles and other close followers of Jesus.
    "Therefore, brethren, stand fast; and hold the traditions which you have learned, whether by word, or by our epistle."  (2 Thessalonians 2:14)

  11. Do you have to believe in Tradition?
        Yes, because it is the Word of God and has equal authority with the Bible.
    The early Christians learned everything by Tradition, since only later on were some of the teachings of Jesus written down, the last writing being done at the end of the first century.  That is, there was no New Testament in the early Church.

  12. Are you free to believe whatever you want?
        No, you have to believe everything in the Bible and Tradition--all the doctrines that the Catholic Church teaches.
    "The Lord Jesus shall be revealed from Heaven, with the angels of His power: in a flame of fire, giving vengeance to them who know not God, and who obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ."   (2 Thessalonians 1:7-8)

  13. What kind of sin is it to deny anything the Catholic Church teaches?
        A serious sin, that is, a mortal sin.
    "Whosoever revolteth, and continueth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God.  He that continueth in the doctrine, the same hath both the Father and the Son."    (2 John 1:9)

PRACTICAL POINTS

  1. If a Catholic denies one or more of the doctrines of the Catholic Church, he is no longer a Catholic. To be a Catholic is to accept the Catholic faith in its entirety because it comes from God, and God can neither lie nor make a mistake.

  2. You can easily tell the difference between a Catholic Bible and a non-Catholic one.  A Catholic Bible always has the name of a Catholic bishop near the front with the Latin word Imprimatur , which means "It may be printed."

  3. The Catholic Church not only allows her members to read the Bible, but encourages them to do so.  She gives special "blessings" (called indulgences) to those who read it as spiritual reading.  You are encouraged to buy a Catholic Bible and read part of it every day.

  4. Protestant Bibles are missing 7 books of the Bible. Martin Luther, the founder of Protestantism, decided to omit them, because the Jews omit them.  Catholics call these 7 books the "Deuterocanonical Books"; Protestants call them the "Apocrypha."  They are Tobias, Judith, Wisdom, Ecclesiasticus, Baruch, and 1 and 2 Machabees (plus parts of Esther and Daniel ).

  5. Nowhere does the Bible say that the Bible is the sole source of Christian teaching.  This fact refutes the classic Protestant teaching of "the Bible alone" (sola Scriptura ).  For more on this topic, see The Catholic Church proved by the Protestant Bible


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Theology
KEYWORDS: bible; briefcatechism; catechism; nt; ot; scripture

1 posted on 07/17/2007 3:49:37 PM PDT by NYer
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Lesson 2 of 43.


2 posted on 07/17/2007 3:50:34 PM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: Alex Murphy

Catholic ping!


3 posted on 07/17/2007 3:52:07 PM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: All
Correction

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Nowhere does the Bible say that the Bible is the sole source of Christian teaching.  This fact refutes the classic Protestant teaching of "the Bible alone" (sola Scriptura ).  For more on this topic, see The Catholic Church proved by the Protestant Bible.

4 posted on 07/17/2007 3:58:02 PM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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5 posted on 07/17/2007 4:03:28 PM PDT by Frank Sheed (Fr. V. R. Capodanno, Lt, USN, Catholic Chaplain. 3rd/5th, 1st Marine Div., FMF. MOH, posthumously.)
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To: NYer

Bump! Vital reading for all.


6 posted on 07/17/2007 4:08:05 PM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: NYer
Let us suppose that here is an Episcopalian minister. He is (just for the sake of argument) a sincere, an honest, a well-meaning and prayerful man.

Well, this was in the nineteenth century, and that was a long time ago . . . .

7 posted on 07/17/2007 4:11:17 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: NYer
8.How can you get the true meaning of the Bible?
You can get it only from God's official interpreter, the Catholic Church.
"Understanding this first, that no prophecy of scripture is made by private interpretation." (2 Peter 1:20)

Peter 1:21 (KJV) For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

Verse 20 is not saying the Catholic church is God's official interpreter, it is saying that man didn't think up a prophecy: God did via the Holy Ghost.

8 posted on 07/17/2007 4:17:10 PM PDT by invoman
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To: NYer
Nowhere does the Bible say that the Bible is the sole source of Christian teaching. This fact refutes the classic Protestant teaching of "the Bible alone" (sola Scriptura ).

Protestant teaching about Sola Scriptura is not "Bible alone". (Solo Scriptura) Carry on.

9 posted on 07/17/2007 4:19:11 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: NYer

Just getting back on line today. Will post what I promised yesterday shortly.


10 posted on 07/17/2007 4:23:07 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: invoman
Verse 20 is not saying the Catholic church is God's official interpreter, it is saying that man didn't think up a prophecy: God did via the Holy Ghost.

From the Catholic Bible ... here is the footnote from that particular verse.

Often cited, along with 2 Tim 3:16, on the "inspiration" of scripture or against private interpretation, these verses in context are directed against the false teachers of 2 Peter 2 and clever tales (2 Peter 1:16). The prophetic word in scripture comes admittedly through human beings (2 Peter 1:21), but moved by the holy Spirit, not from their own interpretation, and is a matter of what the author and Spirit intended, not the personal interpretation of false teachers. Instead of under the influence of God, some manuscripts read "holy ones of God."

11 posted on 07/17/2007 4:33:14 PM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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A Brief Catechism for Adults - Lesson 1: Religion
A Brief Catechism for Adults - Lesson 2: The Bible and Tradition
12 posted on 07/17/2007 4:40:28 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: NYer
The early Christians learned everything by Tradition, since only later on were some of the teachings of Jesus written down, the last writing being done at the end of the first century. That is, there was no New Testament in the early Church.

Isn't the New Testament the Old Testament fulfilled?

"Therefore, brethren, stand fast; and hold the traditions which you have learned, whether by word, or by our epistle." (2 Thessalonians 2:14)

This was 1 letter written to 1 church. The word "epistle" here is singular. There were many letters written to lots of other churches. How do you know that when all these letters were put together ALL the "words" "tradations" needed for salvation were not included. In this scripture, Paul is speaking of this one particular epistle, not all epistle's wrote.

"Many other signs also did Jesus in the sight of His disciples, which are not written in this book." (John 20:30)

If you go on and read the rest of this sentence in the next verse you get the whole meaning of the thought. That the things John wrote in his book, he choose to prove that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God. This scripture quoted does not mean that the things that were not written down included things we need to know as "teachings." It does not imply at all that there are things not written that are needed to be a true Christian. IMO, this scripture in this lesson is being taken out of context.

Becky

13 posted on 07/17/2007 4:42:07 PM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: NYer

2Ki 22:8 ¶ And Hilkiah the high priest said unto Shaphan the scribe, I have found the book of the law in the house of the LORD. And Hilkiah gave the book to Shaphan, and he read it.

2Ki 22:11 ¶ And it came to pass, when the king had heard the words of the book of the law, that he rent his clothes.

2Ki 23:2 And the king went up into the house of the LORD, and all the men of Judah and all the inhabitants of Jerusalem with him, and the priests, and the prophets, and all the people, both small and great: and he read in their ears all the words of the book of the covenant which was found in the house of the LORD.

2Ki 23:3 ¶ And the king stood by a pillar, and made a covenant before the LORD, to walk after the LORD, and to keep his commandments and his testimonies and his statutes with all [their] heart and all [their] soul, to perform the words of this covenant that were written in this book. And all the people stood to the covenant.

One can hear the old priests crying out, “This book needs to be interpreted according to our tradition!”


14 posted on 07/17/2007 7:55:18 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (When someone burns a cross on your lawn the best firehose is an AK-47.)
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To: NYer
Is everything that God taught in the Bible?

No, the rest is in tradition.

"Many other signs also did Jesus in the sight of His disciples, which are not written in this book." (John 20:30)

Maybe your Catholic bible left out the next verse...Is that why you didn't include it???

Joh 20:30 And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book:

And why were they not written in the book??? Because they were not needed for our Salvation...

Joh 20:31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.

Here's the verse that goes with the one you cited, and left out...Why would you not quote this one as well...Trying to prove something that isn't so???

15 posted on 07/18/2007 10:11:59 AM PDT by Iscool (OK, I'm Back...Now what were your other two wishes???)
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To: NYer
A Brief Catechism for Adults - Lesson 3: God and the Holy Trinity
16 posted on 07/18/2007 4:39:47 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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17 posted on 07/19/2007 5:14:08 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: invoman
God did via the Holy Ghost.

Bingo, the Holy Spirit sent to the Church as a whole on Pentacost. It is the Holy Spirit who has guided the Church in all truth and the same Holy Spirit guides the Church today. Alleluia! Thanks be to God for His wonderful gift.

18 posted on 07/19/2007 6:40:50 PM PDT by tiki
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
One can hear the old priests crying out, “This book needs to be interpreted according to our tradition!”

Agreed, and as well, there is always Joshua 1:9, saying similar:

Joshua 1:8 (KJV) This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy way prosperous, and then thou shalt have good success.

The book is to be meditated upon...not upon "those who are the official interpreters of what it says".

I really like your scripture, though. It makes a great point.

Here is another passage about "tradition":

Matthew 15:1-9 (KJV) 1 Then came to Jesus scribes and Pharisees, which were of Jerusalem, saying, 2 Why do thy disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? for they wash not their hands when they eat bread. 3 But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition? 4 For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death. 5 But ye say, Whosoever shall say to his father or his mother, It is a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; 6 And honour not his father or his mother, he shall be free. Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition. 7 Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying, 8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. 9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

I note, from above, that Jesus didn't deny he was defying tradition of the "elders". He DID say, "also", didn't He?

He admitted that He was going AGAINST what the elders had taught via 'tradition'...because their tradition was worthless. Even worse than worthless...it ultimately went against the commandment of God.

There is a reason Jesus SAID: Matthew 15:9 (KJV) But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

Read that above verse again...VAIN worship...teaching the DOCTRINES (that means tradition folks) of men.

Luke 8:18 (KJV) Take heed therefore how ye hear: for whosoever hath, to him shall be given; and whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken even that which he seemeth to have.

19 posted on 07/19/2007 8:36:59 PM PDT by invoman
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20 posted on 07/20/2007 8:32:18 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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21 posted on 07/21/2007 8:27:06 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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22 posted on 07/22/2007 2:25:10 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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23 posted on 07/23/2007 4:29:37 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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24 posted on 07/24/2007 5:11:12 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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25 posted on 07/26/2007 3:33:00 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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