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1 posted on 07/21/2007 7:07:39 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: Alex Murphy; NYer
Ahhh, so this is why some Catholic clergy takes a vow of poverty.

“I don’t believe I ever preached a message on money,” he said. “But I do believe … God can want you to have a better house. God wants you to be able to send your kids to college.”

I’ve come up with a new slogan for my herbal pills that will compete against viagra and cialis, “God wants you to have a bigger, longer lasting...”

2 posted on 07/21/2007 7:20:00 AM PDT by SaltyJoe ("Social Justice" for the Unborn Child)
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To: Alex Murphy
I haven't the slightest problem with a clergyman making a "living wage"..being able to support a family in a reasonable fashion.But I do have a problem when they're driving Rolls Royces (or even BMWs) and are vacationing in the South Pacific.

There's something "un-God-ly" about that.

5 posted on 07/21/2007 8:31:17 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (If martyrdom is so cool,why does Osama Obama go to such great lengths to avoid it?)
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To: Alex Murphy

Joel Osteen is one of the biggest frauds of all time.


7 posted on 07/21/2007 8:35:12 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Alex Murphy
“Rick Warren, pastor of Saddleback Church in Lake Forest, Calif., became a reverse tither...”

Of course, Warren is still the Antichrist, right folks? Tommy Dale, where are you?

8 posted on 07/21/2007 8:38:13 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Alex Murphy

This is not the whole story.

The pastor from Waco conveniently forgets to include living in the house provided for him by the congregation.

That’s worth quite a bit of $$.

However, pastors like Hinn, etc. that have a salary that large present a huge stumbling block to a lot of people, IMO. Jesus’s warning about the camel and the eye of the needle should be heeded by these folks. In addition they will be held to a higher standard than the rest of us.

HHC’s husband.


10 posted on 07/21/2007 8:43:24 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: Alex Murphy

Rick Warren needs to buy a new suit!


14 posted on 07/22/2007 8:44:08 AM PDT by ThomasThomas
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To: Alex Murphy; aculeus; Billthedrill; Thinkin' Gal; Petronski; Larry Lucido; Constitution Day; ...
... Creflo Dollar drives a black Rolls Royce and travels in a $5 million dollar jet ...

Bump for truth in advertising.

15 posted on 07/22/2007 8:50:37 AM PDT by dighton
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To: Charles Henrickson; NYer

Do-Good-By-Doing-Well PING


19 posted on 07/22/2007 10:24:57 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Alex Murphy

I pastor a rural church of about 180 members. Most are low income. We reach out to our neighbors, making a difference one-by-one. I think the idea of pay scale is misunderstood by many both ‘in’ and ‘out’ of the church. I believe salaries should be comparable to that of the people who are part of the church, but also comparable to other professionals’ wages. Plus consideration for experience, length of tenure and responsibilities. As a small church pastor, compared to 1,000 member churches, I know the expectations of a senior pastor’s job must be far more demanding than mine. So I understand the larger compensation. However, the exorbitant salaries that some mega church pastors receive seems simply messed up. I have read of very little accountability regarding mega church pastor’s salaries. Sometimes the Board Members are family members who decide what to pay their father or mother who are the Senior Pastors. If I pastored a 20,000 member church I think my salary should increase due to the skill set I would need, my training, etc. But I like to think I would have integrity, like Rick Warren, to consider what my real needs are when considering what a fair salary would be. We as pastors should be provided for, according to the policy of the particular church we are employed at. Having said that, my biggest gripe with tv evangelists is the way they solicit money from thousands with little to no benefit going to a hurting world from those donations. It’s a controversial topic. If you are part of a small church or mega church, let your thoughts be known. We are all part of the Body of Christ.


26 posted on 02/21/2016 7:58:50 PM PST by Pastor Peter (Pastor Peter, pastor salaries,)
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To: Alex Murphy
At the other end of the salary spectrum is Antioch Community Church in Waco, Texas. Since its formation, the church has paid all of its staff members the same annual salary, which is currently $26,400.

That seems to be more in line with the average Catholic priest in the US.

27 posted on 02/21/2016 8:05:14 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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