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To: Pyro7480
You misunderstood. For those in purgatory, their sins are forgiven. The Blood of Jesus is applied to them. But the temporal punishment for these sins that is left is what is being repaid there.

Then you don't understand salvation. If Jesus paid the penalty for our sins on the cross, how come there is some penalty left over for us to pay. If there is, then His blood was not sufficient to wash away our sins. If we take on His righteousness because of the cross, how come we still have to pay a penalty for our unrighteousness that He said he took on the cross? Purgatory cannot be argued from the scriptures without a great deal of manipulation.

25 posted on 07/27/2007 7:10:13 PM PDT by tbpiper
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To: tbpiper

Not from your version of the Scriptures.


26 posted on 07/27/2007 7:16:57 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Jesu, Jesu, Jesu, esto mihi Jesus" -St. Ralph Sherwin's last words at Tyburn)
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To: tbpiper
Your sins are forgiven you, and Christ's sacrifice is a full, perfect and complete expiation of the punishment for sin. But sin and sinful habits leave a mark - what we call the temporal consequences of sin. And God being perfect justice, not the least mark of sin can endure in His presence. So Purgatory is for removing those marks and habits and for getting ready.

C.S. Lewis may have explained it best. You have escaped from a train wreck with your life -- but your clothing is filthy, you're unshaven, you're feeling kinda bad. The Host of the Feast says, "Come, enter into joy." You say, "my garments aren't ready, I'm not fit to enter in." The Host says, "Still, come in." "I would rather be clean." "It may hurt." "Even so, Lord!"

28 posted on 07/27/2007 7:33:26 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: tbpiper
Then you don't understand salvation. If Jesus paid the penalty for our sins on the cross, how come there is some penalty left over for us to pay. If there is, then His blood was not sufficient to wash away our sins.

Must be something like taking a shower. The dirt comes off you & goes down the drain. While it's washed away, it doesn't cease to exist.

I don't believe we have to go reclaim all of our dirt, cuz that would be like God holding our trespasses against us...

62 posted on 07/28/2007 10:22:33 AM PDT by GoLightly
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