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Christians Divided Over Earth's Age According to ChristiaNet Poll
Christian News Wire ^ | August 14, 2007 | Staff

Posted on 08/14/2007 8:44:03 PM PDT by DaveLoneRanger

ChristiaNet.com, the world's largest Christian portal with twelve million monthly page loads, conducted a recent poll asking, "Is the Earth billions of years old?" Regardless the selection of "Yes", "No" or "Unsure", these Christian voters agreed that, "In the beginning God created..." "A point of confusion seems to be whether there is a gap of time between the beginning of universe and the creation of Adam", stated Bill Cooper, President of ChristiaNet.

Out of 797 polled, 43% believed the Earth is less than billions of years old. The vast majority of this group felt the Earth is between 6,000 and 12,000 years old. Using the Bible as their reference, many Believers cited the genealogies listed in the Old Testament as evidence. One person said, "The years of generations between Adam and Jesus equal about 4,000." While others pointed out in Genesis that "God created all things in six days" and many believed these days are six literal 24 hour periods. Some took a more scientific approach such as using population growth studies and analyzing Biblical timelines to arrive at an age of less than a billion years.

Thirty percent of the Christians polled answered "Yes" to the survey. Most in this group relied upon the information published by the Science community as evidence for an old Earth such as carbon dating and the fossil records. Some believe in the "Gap Theory" that states there is a long period of time between Genesis 1:1 where God created the heaven and the earth and Genesis 1:3 where the six days of creation begin. Others support this view by interpreting Second Peter 3:8, "one day is like a thousand years with God", as a calculation for billions of years. However, many acknowledged that about 6,000 years have passed between the time of Adam and the present.

The remaining participants, twenty-seven percent, selected "Unsure." This group seems not to have an opinion one way or the other on this topic. Many made comments such as "I'm not sure, but I don't believe in evolution", "Don't know, don't care" or "Only God knows the age of the Earth." Even though some were not sure of the age, their comments reflected the main arguments presented by the "Yes" and "No" groups.


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KEYWORDS: creation; crevolist; evolution; fsmdidit
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To: Coyoteman
You want evidence? Look at the understanding of evolution and science you received as a homeschooler! Your posting history on this website concerning science is enough proof for anybody.

Pretty pathetic: creationists do everything they can to deride science and then you try to blame the school system for not teaching science. What a pathetic joke!

* Darwinism -- a term used by creationists to include all scientists who disagree with them.

Dang Coyote. You're on the warpath today.

Keep it up.

41 posted on 08/16/2007 8:30:28 AM PDT by GunRunner (Come on Fred, how long are you going to wait?)
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To: kaehurowing
Everyone knows the world was created on Sunday, October 23, 4004 B.C., at 9 a.m.

Which time zone I wonder?

42 posted on 08/16/2007 8:32:44 AM PDT by GunRunner (Come on Fred, how long are you going to wait?)
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To: scripter
That's my perspective after many years of study and research.

What about the age of the universe? The physics of our galaxy can be studied independent of evolutionary life cycles on Earth. Light from distant stars alone discounts a young universe.

43 posted on 08/16/2007 8:37:03 AM PDT by GunRunner (Come on Fred, how long are you going to wait?)
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To: curiosity
31% believe in astrology? Yikes. It's worse than I thought.

two centuries ago it was close to 100%. Now it's mostly politicians and mortgage bankers.

44 posted on 08/16/2007 8:39:32 AM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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To: GourmetDan

“Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them [humans] male and female,’...” (Matt 19:4)

Of course I believe what He said. Don’t misunderstand, I am a Creationist, I just don’t know exactly how long “The Beginning” was and whether or not there may have been a gap between Genesis 1 and 2. I don’t believe in macroevolution and would stand with a God-glorifying young-earth creationist against a man-glorifying evolutionist any day of the week :)

marinamuffy


45 posted on 08/16/2007 9:00:22 AM PDT by marinamuffy ("..pacifism ensures that cruelty will prevail on earth." - Dennis Prager/ www.gohunter08.com)
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To: GunRunner

“Which time zone I wonder?”

God being British, I’m sure it was Greenwich Mean Time.


46 posted on 08/16/2007 11:25:31 AM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: marinamuffy
... I just don’t know exactly how long “The Beginning” was and whether or not there may have been a gap between Genesis 1 and 2.

There is no gap because Genesis 1:1 is not, itself, an act of creation. It is simply God introducing himself as the creator of all things. That's all.

47 posted on 08/16/2007 1:06:30 PM PDT by csense
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To: GunRunner
I think that's a great question. I've read some interesting discussions on the speed of light and whether or not it has changed or is changing. And today I was reading about two German physicists who claim to have broken the speed of light but color me a skeptic for now. That's an interesting thread you should checkout if you have the time.

I think there are a lot of possibilities...

48 posted on 08/16/2007 4:08:50 PM PDT by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: onedoug
Hydroplate

Have you ever looked at one of the pictures of the supposed one land mass, where is South America, and why is Africa smaller than it is now.

Did you know that there is land under the Oceans that connect the continents?

Where is the new land.

The rest of your theory is a belief, and is not provable. You assume the small amount of study of the observable is the way it has always happened and therefore it is speculated that is how it came to be. It is history and therefore it must be interpreted, by fallible man who assumes.

If you believe in God's handiwork then Google Hydroplate theory.

As to astronomy the light from the stars getting here is easily explained by the verse

Isaiah 42:5-- Thus saith God the LORD, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein:

Like the balloon theory of the Big Dud, if God created the earth first then he created the heavens and stretched them out from the earth to where they are now the light from the stars would not have had to travel all the light years to get here as the light would have started here and as they were stretched away the light would have always been visible.

Like watching a rocket blast into space you can see the trail left as it climbs.
49 posted on 08/19/2007 12:00:08 PM PDT by Creationist ( Evolution is a faith based science with no proof. Scientist are the prophets, teachers the preacher)
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To: onedoug

what is your problem with the word.


50 posted on 08/19/2007 12:03:47 PM PDT by Creationist ( Evolution is a faith based science with no proof. Scientist are the prophets, teachers the preacher)
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To: Coyoteman
Since your theory is not plausible,

1st you attack there character, then 2nd you claim they are ignorant because they believe in God as the creator of the universe in less than billions of years.

You do this because you need naturalistic origins so that there is no God to answer to for your behavior in life.
51 posted on 08/19/2007 12:10:13 PM PDT by Creationist ( Evolution is a faith based science with no proof. Scientist are the prophets, teachers the preacher)
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To: Creationist
Since your theory is not plausible,

False.

1st you attack there [sic] character,

I disparage their anti-science behavior.

then 2nd you claim they are ignorant because they believe in God as the creator of the universe in less than billions of years.

I disparage their sullen unwillingness to see the evidence that is right in front of their eyes, and their pernicious distortion of science to their own personal ends.

You do this because you need naturalistic origins so that there is no God to answer to for your behavior in life.

False.

52 posted on 08/19/2007 12:19:18 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: Coyoteman
Please show one lizard giving birth to a chicken.

Your pretty pictures arranged in an order to give the appearance of direction is not a proof.
Life from non life please, oh wait that does not happen.

Punchuated equilibrium right, (hopeful monsters).

Long ages and naturalistic ways that do not adhere to the physical laws of nature is not science. It is a belief is a unobservable untestable fairy tale propagated by men centuries ago that has yet to stand up to the test of time. There are props holding up the mirrors in every corner and the fires of truth are clouding the eyes of the willfully ignorant.

There is nothing in science that has ever disproved the Bible in any way.

But your belief requires a constant changing the way it could have happened.

Oh by the way has the dirt in your yard come to life yet.
53 posted on 08/19/2007 12:32:36 PM PDT by Creationist ( Evolution is a faith based science with no proof. Scientist are the prophets, teachers the preacher)
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To: Creationist
Please show one lizard giving birth to a chicken.

That would disprove the theory of evolution. Evolution does not claim that kind of mutation; only creationists do.


Your pretty pictures arranged in an order to give the appearance of direction is not a proof.

Proof? No, it is interpretation and extrapolation of the evidence. That is what science does. But why are you bringing this up now? I don't remember posting that picture in several months.


Life from non life please, oh wait that does not happen.

That is not evolution. Unless you use the standard creationist definition of evolution as "any science that creationists disagree with."


Punchuated equilibrium right, (hopeful monsters).

Why should all of evolution proceed at the exact same rate? That would be silly for someone to believe. Darwin pointed out this possibility in 1859.


Long ages and naturalistic ways that do not adhere to the physical laws of nature is not science.

The "laws of nature" are determined by scientists, not creationists. Scientists have no problem with the theory of evolution as science.


It is a belief is a unobservable untestable fairy tale propagated by men centuries ago that has yet to stand up to the test of time. There are props holding up the mirrors in every corner and the fires of truth are clouding the eyes of the willfully ignorant.

Huh?


There is nothing in science that has ever disproved the Bible in any way.

The idea of a global flood about 4350 years ago has been falsified.


But your belief requires a constant changing the way it could have happened.

Science modifies its theories as needed. The basics of the theory of evolution have changed little in 150 years. The details are much richer now, and with each major discovery (such as DNA), the evidence supporting the theory of evolution has only grown stronger.


Oh by the way has the dirt in your yard come to life yet.

Why should it? The theory of evolution says nothing about dirt coming to life.

By the way, this is the fourth ping you've sent my way today, mostly from old threads. Is there some special occasion? You get a day off to play on the internet?

54 posted on 08/19/2007 12:58:26 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: Creationist
None with The Word.

It takes ~8 1/2 minutes for light to reach us from the sun, and another 3-4 seconds to reflect back from the moon. By dt/dc, how far is the Sun?

And there must be some separation otherwise, we're in it.

55 posted on 08/19/2007 2:22:15 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: marinamuffy
"Of course I believe what He said. Don’t misunderstand, I am a Creationist, I just don’t know exactly how long “The Beginning” was and whether or not there may have been a gap between Genesis 1 and 2."

I think if you'll reconsider your position, you'll see that you only believe what Christ said in the context of what man says is permissable and that is a dangerous place to be.

It was not until man said the earth and the universe were billions of years old, that 'believers' started compromising with the position you hold. If you will actually study the supposed 'evidence' for long ages, you will find that it ultimately rests on unobservable *assumptions* that are not demonstrated. As such, you should not take the assumptions of man over the clear teaching of the Word of God.

56 posted on 08/20/2007 7:51:16 AM PDT by GourmetDan
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