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Lesbian priest among nominees for Episcopal bishop
CNN ^ | 8/28/2007 | AP

Posted on 08/28/2007 5:59:55 PM PDT by fgoodwin

The Episcopal Diocese of Chicago included an openly lesbian priest among five nominees for bishop Tuesday, as fellow Anglicans demand that the church bar gay bishops.

The Rev. Tracey Lind, dean of Trinity Cathedral in Cleveland, who has a female partner, will be on the November 10 ballot.

If she wins, she would be the second bishop living with a same-sex partner in the Episcopal Church. New Hampshire Bishop V. Gene Robinson, who has a male partner, was consecrated in 2003, pushing the world Anglican Communion to the brink of schism.

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TOPICS: Current Events; Mainline Protestant; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: apostasy; apostates; ecusa; episcopalchurch; heresy; heretics; homophobia; homosexualagenda; homosexualbishop; lesbianpriest; religiousleft; tec; traceylind

1 posted on 08/28/2007 5:59:57 PM PDT by fgoodwin
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To: Huber; sionnsar

Please ping your Anglican list.


2 posted on 08/28/2007 6:02:50 PM PDT by fgoodwin (Fundamentalist, right-wing nut and proud father of a Star Scout!)
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To: fgoodwin

You gotta love those “churches” that put their sexual deviants on a pedestal. The Catholic Church tried it and they got creamed. Weird how that works.


3 posted on 08/28/2007 6:04:06 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (When you start seeing FR as a "hate site," it's time for you to go to rehab.)
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To: fgoodwin

As a Lesbian, she is a shoe-in.


4 posted on 08/28/2007 6:04:34 PM PDT by doc1019 (Fred Thompson '08)
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To: doc1019

We now know the answer to the age-old question, “Say, who do you have to screw to get elected Episcopalian bishop in this joint?”


5 posted on 08/28/2007 6:08:07 PM PDT by Argus
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To: fgoodwin
MAKING THE NUMBERS
Christopher Johnson, Midwest Conservative Journal

The field for the next Episcopal Bishop of Chicago is out and Yips has the early line.  The line-up seems to be pretty much standard-issue TEC left.  There's the obligatory homosexualThis guy's on the board of Planned Parenthood.  And the Rev. Margaret Rose, TEC's Director of Women’s Ministries, is famous for this celebrated episode.

What's going to happen?  Some liberal will win but don't hold me to that.  Don't know who the favorite would be at this point but I'm pulling for Rose.  I have to figure that her consecration ceremony would be extremely interesting.  Perhaps even vaguely Christian.

A surprise to the Captain and a disappointment to this department is the absence of Chicago's own Bonnie "It's a Walther 9mm Semiautomatic, Not Oysters Rockefeller It's a River, Not a Pie" Perry from consideration as the homosexual candidate.  I still think Ms. Perry's "It's a Tilapia Filet, Not a Belt Sander It's a River, Not a Pie" was a great sermon and I looked forward to beating that concept to death some more reading more of her contributions.

6 posted on 08/28/2007 6:15:48 PM PDT by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: ahadams2; blue-duncan; brothers4thID; sionnsar; Alice in Wonderland; BusterBear; DeaconBenjamin2; ..
Thanks to fgoodwin for the ping.

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7 posted on 08/28/2007 6:16:48 PM PDT by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: fgoodwin
This has gone right over from comedy into tragedy.

It makes me very sad to see what has become of my former denomination.

But nobody is so bad as to be useless. They can always serve as an Awful Warning.

8 posted on 08/28/2007 6:36:11 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: FlingWingFlyer; NYer; Salvation

The Catholic Church didn’t put them on a pedestal, especially not like this. This is not to minimize the enormous stain and scandal caused by the homosexual priests and pedophiles, but it is a distinctly different type of issue.


9 posted on 08/28/2007 6:37:07 PM PDT by StAthanasiustheGreat (Vocatus Atque Non Vocatus Deus Aderit)
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To: StAthanasiustheGreat
As a Protestant watching from outside, I would completely agree that the Catholic position is much more acceptable. There is no outward endorsement of sin, even though by not rooting out the problems sooner, it appears one of “omission” instead.

Both are bad, but the Vatican has never wavered on this issue.

And I, as a Protestant, am immensely grateful during this time of chaos among those who claim Christ.

10 posted on 08/28/2007 6:43:31 PM PDT by ConservativeMind
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To: ConservativeMind

Thank you and I agree with the “sin of omission” comment. While Ignatius of Antioch said to paraphrase, “Where the Bishop is, there is the Church,” it is also true that the Road to Hell is paved with the skulls of bishops.


11 posted on 08/28/2007 6:50:19 PM PDT by StAthanasiustheGreat (Vocatus Atque Non Vocatus Deus Aderit)
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To: Argus
We now know the answer to the age-old question, “Say, who do you have to screw to get elected Episcopalian bishop in this joint?”

Perhaps there’s a church equivalent of the moviebiz “I know a girl so dumb, she slept with the writer.”

12 posted on 08/28/2007 6:57:38 PM PDT by dighton
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To: fgoodwin

Oh joy. :-(


13 posted on 08/28/2007 7:06:28 PM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: sionnsar

God bless the faithful in this struggle. In the end, Jesus will win, no matter who says what in this age.


14 posted on 08/28/2007 7:12:29 PM PDT by j_tull (Massachusetts, the Gay State. Once the leader of the American Revolution, now leading its demise.)
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To: fgoodwin
Mary Margret Wildeblood for Bishop?

(Obscure literary reference.)

15 posted on 08/28/2007 7:18:12 PM PDT by Lee N. Field ("Dispensationalism -- threat or menace?")
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To: sionnsar

She’s a codfish, not a priest!!!!


16 posted on 08/28/2007 7:21:53 PM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: fgoodwin

How does a homosexual justify their actions with scripture? Do they argue that those passages against homosexual activity are bogus? I don’t understand it.


17 posted on 08/28/2007 7:22:37 PM PDT by DesScorp
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To: fgoodwin

“By their fruits shall ye know them.”


18 posted on 08/28/2007 7:22:57 PM PDT by Antoninus (The greatest gifts parents can give their children are siblings.)
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To: fgoodwin

Sodom and Gomorrah are well and alive today... hope the brimstone and fire rain down soon.


19 posted on 08/28/2007 7:24:01 PM PDT by Cinnamon
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To: fgoodwin

If the priestess wins, that will be the end of the TEC’s membership in the Anglican Communion!


20 posted on 08/28/2007 7:26:41 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
The Catholic Church tried it and they got creamed. Weird how that works.

Tried? Please. The Catholic Church was infiltrated and has has a bugger of a time (excuse me) cleaning house. Fortunately for us, there's that whole "Gates of Hell" thing. The Episcopal church was infiltrated and rather than cleaning house, they embraced the pervs and made them their leaders.

Watch out that your Protestant Church isn't next. When Protestant Chruches are infiltrated, the first instinct of the true Christians there is to simply leave and form your own new group. For true Catholics, leaving is not an option.
21 posted on 08/28/2007 7:26:55 PM PDT by Antoninus (The greatest gifts parents can give their children are siblings.)
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To: DesScorp
Something like that. I think that the argument goes somethin like this:

We are not sophisticated enough to understand the nuance of the Gospels, and any enlightened person would recognize that it is questionable whether that misogynist Paul's letters should remain part of the Canon at all!

22 posted on 08/28/2007 7:30:12 PM PDT by Huber (And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. - John 1:5)
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To: Antoninus

Born, baptized and raised a Roman Catholic. Sorry!


23 posted on 08/28/2007 7:35:27 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (When you start seeing FR as a "hate site," it's time for you to go to rehab.)
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To: fgoodwin

This is a wacky religious cult that is centered on promoting homosexuality and replacing Jesus with the United Nations Millenium Development Goals.


24 posted on 08/29/2007 12:50:47 AM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: fgoodwin

Hello,
I’m a Latin Rite Catholic and I’ve been reading these stories and have to be honest and say that I see a consistent “disconnect”.

Most of these articles say the ECUSA is “on the brink of schism” or some other such language.

As an outsider it looks to me like there is a full scale schism (if not multiple) in the ECUSA. Folks seem to be fleeing to Conservative Anglican bodies (or setting up their own) or heading Orthodox or Catholic so they can run across either river as they don’t have time to sink.

Am I wrong? And if I am right, would this really have any impact on what is already happening?


25 posted on 08/29/2007 6:02:39 AM PDT by Cheverus
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Born, baptized and raised a Roman Catholic. Sorry!

Are you still?
26 posted on 08/29/2007 6:23:00 AM PDT by Antoninus (The greatest gifts parents can give their children are siblings.)
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To: fgoodwin

This should be interesting. I have a vote in this election.


27 posted on 08/29/2007 7:41:41 AM PDT by RonF
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To: DesScorp
"How does a homosexual justify their actions with scripture? Do they argue that those passages against homosexual activity are bogus?"

If you ever saw or heard their tortured, insane, interpretation of Romans Chapter 1 you wouldn't know whether to laugh or cry.

28 posted on 08/29/2007 9:04:56 AM PDT by joebuck
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To: DesScorp
How does a homosexual justify their actions with scripture? Do they argue that those passages against homosexual activity are bogus? I don’t understand it.

First off, its hard if not impossible to find a homosexual-advocate "Christian" who really believes scripture is God's Word, inerrant. So that's their starting point with the bible--they pick and choose what to believe in it.

Secondly, most of the attempts at interpreting around the relevant scriptural passages are for purpose of the consumption of well meaning, but but biblically illiterate lay persons. By this I mean the ones making the arguemnts don't believe scripture anyway, and are being fundamentally disingenuous by trying to convince people who still do believe the scripture--what they know of it.

The arguments are illogical and inconsistant, but are as follows:

-Old Testament law doesn't apply..."after all we don't worry about eating shellfish do we?" Of course this ignores 2000 years of church history where OT ceremonial law (such as Kosher food regulations or animal sacrifices)since the book of Acts have never been seen to apply to Christians while at the same time, consistently, OT sexual morals (made even more strict, for example by outlawing polygamy) DO APPLY. The ridiculous thing is that ALL sexual perversions we as a society condemn in morals and law, have their basis in the Old Testament. So throw out the OT rules on homosexuality, and one has no basis to condemn incest, bestiality, necrophilia, pedophilia, etc.

-OT examples of homosexual activity condemned (Sodom and Gammora, the Benjamite rebellion, primarily) are reread into actually being a failure of being "hospitable" to guests (so important, we are told, in Ancient Near East society). Of course this too is contrary to the text, and to the consistent interpretation for more than 2000 years in Judaism and then Christianity. It's really stupid, and clearly just distorting the text to fit one's predetermined goal.

-New Testament: St. Paul is seen either A) as speaking only of abusive homosexual relationships (not "monogamous" ones) or, B)he just had a personal problem...and was a self-hating homosexual himself...

Also ridiculous, esp. "A)" as just a purposeful distortion.

-Jesus is also pitted against Paul "after all Jesus didn't speak against homosexuality!"

Also a dumb point, as Jesus isn't recorded to have spoken to a number of subjects. He wasn't recorded to condemn incest or bestiality either...but Jesus made clear, he AGREED with the OT Jewish Law on ALL POINTS.

So, in the final analysis, the homosexual proponents don't themselves really care what scripture says, but, for public consumption, they do make bogus arguments--usually emotionally based, which talk around the clear teachings of the bible. Many Christians are confused as to the relationship of the OT to the NT, so that is exploited. Also many Christians do tend to pit St. Paul against Jesus, as they don't understand the NT, so, that too is exploited.

Bottom line is though, that the homosexual lobby in the organized Church hate God's Word, and are happy to abuse it to further their agenda.

29 posted on 08/29/2007 9:32:46 AM PDT by AnalogReigns
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To: fgoodwin

Then you’ll really see the ‘grits’ hit the fan and more and more Episcopalians will leave. Didn’t they learn their lesson the last time?


30 posted on 08/29/2007 10:42:02 AM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: fgoodwin

More of Satan’s work, mark it. Cast it out, into the swine, into the sea.


31 posted on 08/29/2007 6:42:40 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: LiteKeeper
If the priestess wins, that will be the end of the TEC’s membership in the Anglican Communion!

I think so too. It would be taken as a deliberate slap in the face to the whole World Anglican Communion, and rightfully so. It could mean nothing else--not only a ridiculous airhead bimbo but a homosexual bimbo at that.

32 posted on 08/29/2007 6:54:50 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: hinckley buzzard

Unfortunately the Anglican Communion and the ABC don’t have the cojones to kick us out — the ECUSA knows this full well.

They’ve been pushing the envelope, and with nothing more than an occassional slap on the wrist, the Communion is reinforcing TEC’s self-destructive behavior.

TEC is betting the Windsor Report is not worth the paper its written on, and that all the huffing and puffing will amount to no more than a bunch of hot air.


33 posted on 08/30/2007 2:44:38 PM PDT by fgoodwin (Fundamentalist, right-wing nut and proud father of a Star Scout!)
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