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To: DouglasKC
Those aware of these festivals generally believe they were meant only for ancient Israel and ceased after Jesus Christ's crucifixion. They assume these days simply pointed toward Christ, and they think that, since He lived on earth 2,000 years ago, their importance has long since passed. Most people consider these biblical festivals as nothing more than relics of history with no relevance to the modern world.

The old covenant feast days were unique to Israel as a nation living in the physical land when there was a temple and a priesthood to offer the sacrifices according to the law given through Moses.

The priesthood, temple, and biblical nation of Israel no longer exist. There were done away with at the coming of Christ who gave us a new holy nation and royal priesthood called the Church. We no longer keep feast days given by Moses (who represented the law) that have decayed and faded away (Heb. 8:13). Those who attempt to keep these ersatz feast days do so according to traditions of men, not the commandments of God, for God never gave His people instructions on how to keep “Rosh Hashanah” or “Yom Kippur” apart from the temple sacrifices or earthly priesthood.

"For the law was given through Moses, but grace and truth came through Jesus Christ" (John 1:17).

We follow Christ in the grace of the gospel. If you are still following after Moses by keeping old covenant feast days as pleasing to God then the apostle Paul has much to say to you in Galatians.

Christ’s followers live under the terms of the new covenant in the new Jerusalem where the old priesthood and old ordinances no longer have any place. They were mere shadows of things to come (Col. 2:17) and Christ’s followers no longer come to Him in shadows.

6 posted on 09/09/2007 7:30:21 PM PDT by topcat54 ("... knowing that the testing of your faith produces patience." (James 1:3))
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To: topcat54
The old covenant feast days were unique to Israel as a nation living in the physical land when there was a temple and a priesthood to offer the sacrifices according to the law given through Moses.

Really? I've got many friends on line and in real life who would disagree with your opinion.

We no longer keep feast days given by Moses (who represented the law) that have decayed and faded away (Heb. 8:13).

Christ, the Lord himself, is chronicled in the bible speaking to Moses about his (Christ's) holy days:

Lev 23:1 And the LORD spoke unto Moses, saying,
Lev 23:2 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, Concerning the feasts of the LORD, which ye shall proclaim to be holy convocations, even these are my feasts.

Also you are apparently inserting your opinion into hebrew 8:13

Heb 8:13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away

The old covenant, not the Lord's holy days, is what Hebrews 13 is referring to.

Those who attempt to keep these ersatz feast days do so according to traditions of men, not the commandments of God, for God never gave His people instructions on how to keep “Rosh Hashanah” or “Yom Kippur” apart from the temple sacrifices or earthly priesthood.

Nonsense. Let's look at the feast of trumpets (Rosh Hashanah):

Lev 23:24 Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, In the seventh month, in the first day of the month, shall ye have a sabbath, a memorial of blowing of trumpets, a holy convocation.
Lev 23:25 Ye shall do no servile work therein: but ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD.

We have instructions to:

1. Observe a sabbath.
2. Blow trumpets.
3. Gather together.
4. Don't do servile work.

None of these require sacrifice or a temple.

"For the law was given through Moses, but grace and truth came through Jesus Christ" (John 1:17).

Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

We follow Christ in the grace of the gospel. If you are still following after Moses by keeping old covenant feast days as pleasing to God then the apostle Paul has much to say to you in Galatians.

Paul kept the feasts himself:

Act 18:21 But bade them farewell, saying, I must by all means keep this feast that cometh in Jerusalem: but I will return again unto you, if God will. And he sailed from Ephesus.

Act 20:16 For Paul had determined to sail by Ephesus, because he would not spend the time in Asia: for he hasted, if it were possible for him, to be at Jerusalem the day of Pentecost.

They were mere shadows of things to come (Col. 2:17)

You misquoted scripture:

Col 2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body of Christ.

ARE, not "were".

7 posted on 09/09/2007 8:26:41 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: topcat54

Amen. I agree with your response to DouglasKC. There is no need for us to observe the Jewish holy days, for three reasons:
1. God gave them to the people of Israel. He never commanded Gentiles to observe them, unless they converted to Judaism.
2. Jesus’ death, burial, and resurrection. When Jesus died on the cross, was buried, and rose from the dead, He abolished the ceremonial law (but not the moral law, which includes the Ten Commandments). [I realize that some of my fellow dispensationalists, and even some non-dispensationalists, will critize me for saying, “but not the moral law.”]
3. The destruction of the Temple in 70 A.D. There is no physical Temple today because of that. Since there is no physical Temple today, there is no need to observe the Jewish holy days. We are under the New Covenant, which Christ ushered in at Calvary. Under the New Covenant, the church is the temple of God (I Cor. 3:16,17; II Cor. 6:16; Eph. 2:19-22; I Peter 2:5).

Paul said that the Jewish holy days “are shadows of things to come” (Col. 2:17). Whether DouglasKC realizes it or not, those “things to come” have come.


24 posted on 09/10/2007 9:48:52 PM PDT by kevinw
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