Skip to comments.Padre Pio and the Mother Co-redemptrix(CATHOLIC CAUCUS)
Posted on 09/10/2007 6:18:13 AM PDT by stfassisi
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Yeah. That’s about where I am. Usually somebody said it all and better than I can.
It is a bit extreme - but at least for now, I have determined it is necessary to disallow certain material to maintain respect on open threads.
This is pretty common on threads related to Catholic topics. Comment #4 attacked us for a belief only tangentially related to what we in fact teach and scarcely related to the notion of co-redeemers or co-redemptrices.
That's why we have caucus threads. Those who disagree with us prefer disagreeing not with us but with their cleverly devised fables about what we believe. It's wearing.
Here's a few that come immediately to mind. And Gamecock posted a Protestant caucus on a pro-life topic, that I can't find the link to at this time.
Wow! Those are disgraceful. I’m embarrassed!
Geesh ,I left to go to Mass and the religion mod's around here remove links that help explain things in more detail!
Go figure! They will stop at nothing to discredit our Blessed Mother
If you’d prefer, I can restore the link and the posts following - but the thread will have to be opened for rebuttal. Or you can find similar materials which do not contrast beliefs between confessions.
And it's equally common on your side of the aisle, as well. I'll refrain from mentioning the name of the Catholic poster who posted them, but here's a sampling of earlier quotes, and the dates they were posted, from one of the Catholics on that Marian thread that was shut down over the weekend. Catholics are no more innocent of the religious flamewars here than Protestants are.
1/23: Brace thyself for the attacks of snake handlers, calvinists, "non-denoms" and others...
1/24: If you're upset that I called out the cults for what they are...sorry...but it's still an accurate depiction of the non-denoms, mormons, calvinists and other wacky cults.
2/5: Mormons...the cult that's become commonplace...so hard-up for membership that they have to resort to attempted spiritual kidnapping of the dead...
2/13: Fact is, John Calvin was an unintelligent, perverse fraud who founded a cult known as "calvinism." The Episcopal "Church" was started by an English king who could not get the Pope to accept the king's immoral ways. Luther was a disaffected, likely egomaniacal priest. Protestantism is a breakoff of mainstream Christianity that seeks to glorify the pastor more than the Lord. Presby's are some of the laziest "Christians" out there...as are all of their predestination cousins.
2/14: Would the calvinist cult members like some damnation with their heresy?
2/15: As for your post, you're also off base and reciting a continual lie of the snake handlers, calvinists and "pastor" worship folks at the Church of the Almighty Dollar.
2/21: Hey...I'm not surprised by anything the snake-handling crowd does. Their "churches" are simply shrines to the "pastors" - no theological foundation...
3/1: Why is this listed as a Catholic interest article? Why not Calvinists? They're the ones who practice the witchcraft.
3/2: You'll note that it's "Calvin" College. Again, I ask why are the activities at a cult center in the midwest relevant to Catholics?
3/4: I tell ya, this "reverend" ... is nothing more than an uneducated bumpkin. Wonder how much money he's skimming from the ship of fools attending his "church..."
3/4: You'd be stunned by how quickly these snake handlers degrade into profanity, anger and threats.
3/4: Again, a demonstration of a protestant being ignorant...
3/4: Let's have a little fun with that wackiest of prot sects, the Baptists
3/5: Being a protestant is in itself a demonstration of ignorance...
3/6: The pentacostals, "church of God" and others are simply inventions of men...designed to pump the ego and line the pockets of the "pastors." But continue donating...I'm sure your pastor is happy in his new Benz...
3/7: Martin Luther, being a relatively lazy type, deleted a good chunk of the Bible? A British king, attempting to justify his own heresy and immorality, heavily edited a version to suit his own twisted lifestyle?
3/7: Yes, if you're a born again, declared protty, then you're clear to do whatever you wish..."date" male hookers, cheat on your spouse, defraud donors of money intended for religious purposes...not that any protestant "ministers" did that or anything...
3/9: Perhaps things are different at your church - one of the, what, million protestant sects? However, the snake handling pentacostal calvinist wannabeatelevangelist "churches" here typically only use snippets.
3/14: Hell, most "Protestant" "churches" in my area are simply shrines to the ego (and pocketbook) of the "pastor."
3/28: Luther was a self-absorbed idiot...and his followers are fools...a complete bunch of utter fools.
3/28: Perhaps I'll just convert to that calvinist cult I've heard so much about.
3/31: That's the real origin of the Anglican church - born of sin and a king's ego,
I believe this thread is staying in the caucus state so I’ll wait for some other opportunity to discuss Marianism.
Take your sidebar about caucuses to an open thread. This thread is closed - and the materials you are discussing will result in comparing confessions.
I would go with the line from Colossians (I think) where Paul says he makes up what is lacking in the sufferings of Christ.
Now that is pretty far out, and, it seems to me, at the basic theology level it is meaningless because NOTHING is "lacking" in the sufferings of Christ. His merit is all-sufficient, etc.
But still,l there are opportunities galore to choose to suffer for someone else's good. From a soldier who is killed laying down covering fire while his comrades change position to a young man getting up on a bus and offering his chair to an older person, to the closing of the book and turning toward one's child as he or she shares some important but incomprehensible crisis about what Jimmy said about his G.I.Joe doll or something of the kind -- all these are setting your comfort aside to enter, share, and relieve someone else's pain.
To me, entering into the suffering of Christ is, at one level, something so common we hardly note that it's being done.
But at another level, if you ask God to let you take somebody else's pain, and a few hours later you find that for no good medical reason every joint in your body hurts, maybe it's just arthritis, but, well maybe you need to thank God for hearing and honoring your prayer.
And finally, as the "locked-in" young man suddenly grasps the "miraculous medal" you just put in his hand, even though he used to be a Vajrayana Buddhist, you begin to wonder that maybe your depression, offered up, has joined with Mary's sorrows and Christ's suffering to work the opening of a soul.
I don't know, but that's the way it seems to me.
my apologies for intruding earlier....are questions disallowed now, or is complete allegiance to the premise expected without asking why -
I simply asked for Bible documentation of Mary's immaculate conception
In all seriousness, why can’t we discuss it w/o fighting about it? DO you know?
Don't bother,I will offer it by private mail to anyone who wants to see it.
I wish you a blessed day and pray for you to have the gift of discernment!
My apologies for all for sidtracking the thread. RM, please feel free to delete my other posts. Mad Dawg, please feel free to ping me or FReepmail me if you wish to continue our discussion.
fair enuff - thx
If it happened, it shouldn’t have. I noticed that on the second one, a poster named “rrc” was banned pretty much as soon as he/she posted.
I apologize as well. I hadn’t gotten to this post when I responded to #45. Please remove my response if it creates a problem.